Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

[Jim Bob]

Kyle Allen rushing stats….7 Carries/ kneel downs for -7 yards.

And last year, Case Keenum only saw action in one of their first 4 games (and 2 games all season) with 3 carries for 2 yards vs TEN.

Keenum played 24 snaps all of 2022.

Kyle Allen has played 23 snaps so far in 2023.

 

[buffa dud]

Tua just doesn't have the sample size to compare to Allen. He also hasn't dominated games against top tier teams like we've seen from Allen. Also, Allen's ability to extend plays and improvise is just far better than what Tua is capable of. If the pressure gets in Tua's face- he's getting sacked or rolling out and likely not making a big play. I know both players do things better than the other, but we've seen defenses play Allen damn near perfect only to be abused by him because he can extend plays so well. I can't say the same for Tua. It's such a big advantage for a QB to have that skill.

This past week wasn't really fair to try to compare them, though. Buffalo's pass rush was kicking ass. It didn't help that the Phins were down their starting center, then lost their starting T about halfway through the game. That being said, that's the main reason why Miami isn't on Buffalo's level (yet). Both offenses can abuse teams, but Miami's defense isn't anywhere close to Buffalo's at the moment.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that they sold the farm to compete for a championship, and yet- they're still in Buffalo's shadow. Feels good. Hopefully it continues that way.

Next year, the Dolphins go into the season with the same initial cap investment as the Bills plus an additional 10 million in dead cap. And, they don't have Tua's extension in place yet.

Speaking of Tua's extension... THAT is going to be something to watch, given his injury history and lack of playoff success.

 

[Djp]

Allen rushing through the first 4 weeks of the season:

19: 31 carries 131 yards
20: 25 carries 83 yards
21: 24 carries 130 yards
22: 30 carries 183 yards
23: 16 carries 106 yards

He's running it less and averaging more YPC.

the 23 stats could easily be 23 for 99 yrs if he wasn’t rested for Kyle

Kyle Allen rushing stats….7 Carries/ kneel downs for -7 yards.

 

[Waterfowlist]

Bigger than how many yards he has on the ground is the # of hits he has taken. Since his stupid mode runs in week 1, has he taken a hit while scrambling? I don't recall any, or at least any big ones.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Tua just doesn't have the sample size to compare to Allen. He also hasn't dominated games against top tier teams like we've seen from Allen. Also, Allen's ability to extend plays and improvise is just far better than what Tua is capable of. If the pressure gets in Tua's face- he's getting sacked or rolling out and likely not making a big play. I know both players do things better than the other, but we've seen defenses play Allen damn near perfect only to be abused by him because he can extend plays so well. I can't say the same for Tua. It's such a big advantage for a QB to have that skill.

This past week wasn't really fair to try to compare them, though. Buffalo's pass rush was kicking ass. It didn't help that the Phins were down their starting center, then lost their starting T about halfway through the game. That being said, that's the main reason why Miami isn't on Buffalo's level (yet). Both offenses can abuse teams, but Miami's defense isn't anywhere close to Buffalo's at the moment.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that they sold the farm to compete for a championship, and yet- they're still in Buffalo's shadow. Feels good. Hopefully it continues that way.

When you have difficulty making reads, you can’t be compared to QBs that can. Tua is great at getting the ball at to his first read.

He seems to be bad at, well, everything else

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Bigger than how many yards he has on the ground is the # of hits he has taken. Since his stupid mode runs in week 1, has he taken a hit while scrambling? I don't recall any, or at least any big ones.

Two that I can think of, the Jets game when he scrambled for a three yard gain, and the Raiders where he was going for the end zone and met his old friend from Wyoming.

 

[sabresfan129103]

Did they say when the team was traveling to London? Sounds like they may not be there too long. All business. Get in and get out.

 

[whiplash]

Two that I can think of, the Jets game when he scrambled for a three yard gain, and the Raiders where he was going for the end zone and met his old friend from Wyoming.

He absorbed a tough leg tackle against Miami, too. But to @Waterfowlist 's point, I haven't found myself gasping nearly as much this year when he rolls out of the pocket or runs. It's a nice development

 

[Zman5778]

Did they say when the team was traveling to London? Sounds like they may not be there too long. All business. Get in and get out.

They're traveling Friday AM to get a practice in Friday PM.

 

[Waterfowlist]

Honestly, with how well the defense is playing and the upcoming schedule, can we hold Von out of the lineup until January? I just want to see that man terrorize folks in the playoffs. This team doesn't need the help during the regular season.

I am terrified we'll see what we just saw from Tre (and I know, the two injuries are completely unrelated).

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Did they say when the team was traveling to London? Sounds like they may not be there too long. All business. Get in and get out.

Red-eye Thursday night, arrive there on Friday.

 

[K8fool]

the 23 stats could easily be 23 for 99 yrs if he wasn’t rested for Kyle

cool, surf the flow josh, 'gone are the days ( he ) stopped to decide ...' -rh.

 

[Jim Bob]

Mess around and find out...

 

[Dubi Doo]

Mess around and find out...

I just hope the Dolphins continue wearing lame custom designed t-shirts before our games!

 

[Dirty Dog]

I just hope the Dolphins continue wearing lame custom designed t-shirts before our games!

They have done it TWICE! Like how and why

 

[buffa dud]

They have done it TWICE! Like how and why

Culture.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[ValJamesDuex]

hopefully there better seats than Takeo Spikes got

 

[missingmika]

One to house a team that’s actually capable of lifting trophies, unlike Tottenham 1.0.

 

[tmlms13]

Has there been any conversation on Buffalo sports talk about why the Jags got to have back to back games in London. It feels like such a massive advantage given to them by the NFL. Honestly, I am worried a bit about this game simply based on that.

Maybe I'm making too much out of nothing but it doesn't seem fair.

 

[whiplash]

One to house a team that’s actually capable of lifting trophies, unlike Tottenham 1.0.

Unnecessary! COYS! Big Ange is the light and the way.

 

[Dubi Doo]

I just read the pick we used on Bernard was due to the Pats signing Gillislee to an offer sheet. I am now a believer Bernard will be a Hall of Famer. The football gods are hooking us up for allowing a late round QB to dominate us for almost two decades.

Has there been any conversation on Buffalo sports talk about why the Jags got to have back to back games in London. It feels like such a massive advantage given to them by the NFL. Honestly, I am worried a bit about this game simply based on that.

Maybe I'm making too much out of nothing but it doesn't seem fair.

I thought this way for a bit too, but then I realized vacation burnout is a real thing. I think I'd be burnt-out by now if I were on day 9 or 10 in London.