Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

[Jim Bob]

 

[Mike McDermott]

 

[Jim Bob]

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I wonder if Josh wears one to a game soon?

 

[buffa dud]

I love the fact that people (myself included) doubted Josh for his accuracy issues, and right now he leads the league in completion percentage. Allen is also currently tied with seven other guys for fourth in interceptions, right alongside Mahomes and Cousins.

More Allen facts:
* Allen is fourth in completions
* 2nd in touchdowns
* 12th in attempts (after being pulled twice, due to a healthy lead)

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[FIRE DRURY]

Allen rushing through the first 4 weeks of the season:

19: 31 carries 131 yards
20: 25 carries 83 yards
21: 24 carries 130 yards
22: 30 carries 183 yards
23: 16 carries 106 yards

He's running it less and averaging more YPC.

 

[Zman5778]

He's now played the Dolphins 11 times. And has won AFCPOW 5 times after. Should have been 6 if Charles Clay catches that pass.

 

[Jim Bob]

He's now played the Dolphins 11 times. And has won AFCPOW 5 times after. Should have been 6 if Charles Clay catches that pass.

 

[Zman5778]

Dolphins fans are still talking trash? After what just happened?

 

[Jim Bob]

Dolphins fans are still talking trash? After what just happened?

Of course there are.

They are trying to rationalize the loss and still keep up the narratives that the Bills are done and Tua is better than Josh.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[buffa dud]

Allen rushing through the first 4 weeks of the season:

19: 31 carries 131 yards
20: 25 carries 83 yards
21: 24 carries 130 yards
22: 30 carries 183 yards
23: 16 carries 106 yards

He's running it less and averaging more YPC.

I'm a little surprised by how little he's been running this year (not complaining). But, it isn't surprising he's averaging more YPC.

If the opposing defenses see that he's running less, they're less likely to dedicate a player to spying him. The addition of a short-game is also going to draw defenders away from Josh, because defenses simply can't afford to dedicate a guy solely to Josh if he's only going to run it four times a game. They're just going to take their lumps when it's time, and it looks like that's exactly what Josh is doing.

 

[Djp]

Allen rushing through the first 4 weeks of the season:

19: 31 carries 131 yards
20: 25 carries 83 yards
21: 24 carries 130 yards
22: 30 carries 183 yards
23: 16 carries 106 yards

He's running it less and averaging more YPC.

The nbigger data would be to split these into

scramble/ pressure runs
short/ goal line runs
kneel downs

because of 3 large blow outs they pulled him out for end of game kneel downs

 

[Jim Bob]

The nbigger data would be to split these into

scramble/ pressure runs
short/ goal line runs
kneel downs

because of 3 large blow outs they pulled him out for end of game kneel downs

His usage in victory formation and short yardage QB sneaks is down this year over previous seasons, for sure.

 

[misterchainsaw]

Dolphins fans are still talking trash? After what just happened?

Still clinging to the super bowls they won in the 70's. That's about the extent of the trash-talking I saw because, well, they don't have anything else.

 

[Jim Bob]

Still clinging to the super bowls they won in the 70's. That's about the extent of the trash-talking I saw because, well, they don't have anything else.

There are a ton of Phins fans making all sorts of excuses or saying wait until week 18 and stuff.

 

[TheAngryHank]

There are a ton of Phins fans making all sorts of excuses or saying wait until week 18 and stuff.

Week 18 when some starters are sitting cause it's a wrap on the division and a bye?

 

[Dingo44]

Week 18 when some starters are sitting cause it's a wrap on the division and a bye?

Remember when the Bills played their third string because they had clinched in the last game of the season and the Fish had to win for a chance to make it and we kicked their ass? Good times. I'd love a repeat of that.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Of course there are.

They are trying to rationalize the loss and still keep up the narratives that the Bills are done and Tua is better than Josh.

Tua just doesn't have the sample size to compare to Allen. He also hasn't dominated games against top tier teams like we've seen from Allen. Also, Allen's ability to extend plays and improvise is just far better than what Tua is capable of. If the pressure gets in Tua's face- he's getting sacked or rolling out and likely not making a big play. I know both players do things better than the other, but we've seen defenses play Allen damn near perfect only to be abused by him because he can extend plays so well. I can't say the same for Tua. It's such a big advantage for a QB to have that skill.

This past week wasn't really fair to try to compare them, though. Buffalo's pass rush was kicking ass. It didn't help that the Phins were down their starting center, then lost their starting T about halfway through the game. That being said, that's the main reason why Miami isn't on Buffalo's level (yet). Both offenses can abuse teams, but Miami's defense isn't anywhere close to Buffalo's at the moment.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that they sold the farm to compete for a championship, and yet- they're still in Buffalo's shadow. Feels good. Hopefully it continues that way.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Remember when the Bills played their third string because they had clinched in the last game of the season and the Fish had to win for a chance to make it and we kicked their ass? Good times. I'd love a repeat of that.

I think Phins fans just need to humble themselves until Allen and McD stop dragging their nuts all over their favorite team. Also, tweets like that are exactly why I stopped using Twitter. It's by far the most toxic social media platform I've ever been on.

 

[Jim Bob]

Tua just doesn't have the sample size to compare to Allen. He also hasn't dominated games against top tier teams like we've seen from Allen. Also, Allen's ability to extend plays and improvise is just far better than what Tua is capable of. If the pressure gets in Tua's face- he's getting sacked or rolling out and likely not making a big play. I know both players do things better than the other, but we've seen defenses play Allen damn near perfect only to be abused by him because he can extend plays so well. I can't say the same for Tua. It's such a big advantage for a QB to have that skill.

This past week wasn't really fair to try to compare them, though. Buffalo's pass rush was kicking ass. It didn't help that the Phins were down their starting center, then lost their starting T about halfway through the game. That being said, that's the main reason why Miami isn't on Buffalo's level (yet). Both offenses can abuse teams, but Miami's defense isn't anywhere close to Buffalo's at the moment.

Also, I'd like to remind everyone that they sold the farm to compete for a championship, and yet- they're still in Buffalo's shadow. Feels good. Hopefully it continues that way.

The biggest difference between Allen & Tua is what Allen can do off script.

Tua struggles if you take away his first read.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Djp]

His usage in victory formation and short yardage QB sneaks is down this year over previous seasons, for sure.

Kyle Allen rushing stats….7 Carries/ kneel downs for -7 yards.