Post-Game Talk: Season over Jets lose in OT

[Joe Hallenback]

We finished the season looking exactly how we looked in that Montreal series pretty damm awful. The D pairings really sucked. Poolman can't play top minutes and Forbort is out his depth as well.

It is obvious a lot of players were banged up. We played a team that doesn't care about another team being physical on them. There team defense was much better then ours, there puck support was much better then ours and their "slow" big D men just man handled us all over the ice.

I agree if we don't change our approach to the game we can expect much the same next season

 

[Do or Die]

We got totally out skated, out battled and out hustled ...........by the Habs...... playing their 4th game in 6 days after playing a 7 game series.
No excuses in the world, covers that.

 

[pepperMonkey]

I haven't been into hockey for the last few years. My current 5-year-old running amok has sucked up all energy, especially the first 3 years This was the first year I have watched hockey in some while. (Course the Habs been rather a dumpster fire as well the last little while...) so didn't know much about Hellebuyck but wow...he's incredible. Put a more credible defense in front of him and watch your team takes strides towards the cup.
I do understand what happened. Years past but every single time Koivu got hurt and taken out of the playoffs, the Habs just simply collapsed. If Chef wasn't suspended this would have been a much closer series. With that said, give PLD another chance. Sometimes, a lot of the time, just-traded players do not play well because they need more time to adapt to their new team, teammates, system, etc. The broadcasters were also saying he just looked off and thought he must be playing hurt. Who knows. but I would give him some more time before giving judgment.
All this to say, your team isn't nearly as bad as they looked in this series. A bunch of bad luck contributed...and you simply need luck during the playoffs. I hope we could play against each other again in the playoffs but with all hands on deck and everything running at full-throttle next time. Would be wild and wouldn't be surprised (at all) to see the Jets winning next time.

[edit: Oh, and huge props to Ehlers for what he did when Evans got hurt. The NHL needs more players like him.]

 

[Jetland162702]

Wanted to wait until this morning to try and take the emotion out of my post. Thinking back on the season, I think the loss to Montreal is more representative of our team this season than the win over the Oilers. Our defence is bad, plain and simple. If it wasn't for solid goalkeeping I doubt we make the playoffs.
That said, there are a lot of good pieces on this team and I don't think we are as far away as some might think. Our window is not closing, not yet anyway, and if some of our good young defence prospects can develop as hoped, then we will be competitive going forward.
I enjoy reading the humor on our boards and I always appreciate the posters who are well informed and insightful. Thanks for that.
For what its worth, I will be keeping my season tickets.
Have a good summer and hopefully when training starts this Covid crap will be behind us.

 

[Lions67]

This was by far the worst Winnipeg Jets playoff series in the history both 1.0 and 2.0 of the Jets
No compete, no heart, no life.
They looked like they could give a damn.

 

[cbcwpg]

Montreal to Winnipeg... that's a paddlin'

 

[WolfHouse]

Wow I actually forgot there was a game... guess the Jets did too

 

[Huffer]

That was an embarrassing series, and a very embarrassing last game. With the D the team went with this year this wasn't really a legit contender, but that series performance is still a big let down.

That being said, the only good that could come from this is if the Leadership team has a similar revelation as to the state of the team similar to the one they had after the Anaheim series.

What I "Hope" they realize:

1. The defense needs to have players that can defend (obvs), but they need to also be able to move the puck and skate. Forbert, Benn, and Beaulieu should not be leaned upon options. Poolman is close to this group as well, but could possibly function as a 6/7 at the right price.

2. The 3rd line was good this year, but you need to have your bottom 6 able to make some sort of impact in the game. Looking at this series alone, the Habs bottom 6 puts ours to shame. Actual skill on the 4th line that was able to control large amounts of zone time and score.

3. The top 6 needs a shot in the arm. Our top 6 did not produce in this series and that can't happen if you hope to have a chance. I have appreciated Stastny's impact, but I think his time is done. I really hope PLD is injured and can rebound to CBJ PLD. Wheeler is showing he's not 1st line material and maybe not 2nd line soon. Perfetti is close, but IMO the Jets could also use another impact skill player (or 2) to go with Ehlers, Scheifele, Connor, and PLD.

I'm not sure if a blockbuster trade is the avenue. We're more likely robbing Peter to pay Paul in that scenario.

With the flat cap, I think the team needs to find this off seasons Toews and Toffoli players. (Easier said than done I know). Yes one was a RFA and the other a UFA, but both were players that their teams could not keep, and both were cheap to acquire, both in terms of salaries, and in the case of Toews, in trade assets.

 

[WolfHouse]

Haha just watched the Blake Wheeler sob story... feel like I’ve seen that before

Jets 2022 - We will try! But our lives are so hard

 

[Do or Die]

Haha just watched the Blake Wheeler sob story... feel like I’ve seen that before

Jets 2022 - We will try! But our lives are so hard

....all we needed was a bounce or break of two and it would of been a different series
Blah.

 

[WolfHouse]

....all we needed was a bounce or break of two and it would of been a different series
Blah.

If we would have just scored more goals than them, the story might be different.

 

[mondo3]

I wonder if Niku would have been a better option than Benn.

 

[irunthepeg]

....all we needed was a bounce or break of two and it would of been a different series
Blah.

I would say that in a series that went 3-4 or even 2-4 for the Jets but that was a complete and utter dismantlement. One bounce would have just prolonged the inevitable. Great for Stanley scoring two last night but that was some puck luck from the hockey gods. Or maybe a sign of things to come

 

[Jetfaninflorida]

....all we needed was a bounce or break of two and it would of been a different series
Blah.

Yeah, different in that we might have held a lead for greater than 00.0 seconds of the entire 14,400 seconds of the series.

 

[oldunclehue]

I maybe watched 3 periods of this series based on my anger at the way the Jets played. It was absolutely horrendous in all ways.

The Oiler sweep was a fraud....

We will not win with this core after watching that. No one wanted to get to the dirty areas. Stood off to the side of the net.

Pathetic. Glad they are done though, its always the same thing with this team. Need a new vision.

If I was ownership, Chevy would be taking most of this on his shoulders and would be hard not to consider letting him go depending on what options we have.

 

[AlphaLackey]

I would say that in a series that went 3-4 or even 2-4 for the Jets but that was a complete and utter dismantlement. One bounce would have just prolonged the inevitable. Great for Stanley scoring two last night but that was some puck luck from the hockey gods. Or maybe a sign of things to come

The series against St. Louis, I would buy that argument about. Not in the literally most lopsided 5v5 xG series in the entire history of the stat.

 

[AlphaLackey]

I wonder if Niku would have been a better option than Benn.

I wonder if playing a forward on the point even strength would have been a better option than Benn.

 

[kanadalainen]

I wonder if Niku would have been a better option than Benn.

 

[TheGovernment]

I love Connor but god damn, he is liquid butter soft lol.
It will suck to miss his goal production but we need to trade him for a legit D man.

 

[Dondini]

Is it just me or does the Jets need some new leadership. I was shocked at wheelers comments after some of these games. Proud city, proud fans deserve better.

 

[irunthepeg]

I keep going back to the 2016/2017 Pittsburgh model in terms of how to make the Jets successful. Like the Pens, the Jets are loaded up front with an even better goalie than Pittsburgh had both of those years (Fleury was good but he wasn't VGK reborn Fleury yet). The Pens basically had Letang and ??? Jets should be trying to emulate that sort of system, I feel like. Strong forecheck, d-men who can move the puck and keep it out of the zone. Need commitment from the forwards and they need to be relentless. I doubt PoMo is the guy to do this and obviously Scheifele/PLD/Stastny are not Crosby/Malkin but maybe they can make it closer by being deeper on all the lines. I think that's the Jets biggest strength. There should be an ability to run all four lines comfortably, when they give a shit.

 

[DannyGallivan]

At least we dominated Minnesota in 2018! Right? Right?

Yep, and we won the Avco in '79.

 

[DannyGallivan]

Let's face it the only line that did anything was Lowry's line.

The only player who did anything was Lowry.

I give the fourth line a break because of their role and their usage, but we have bragged about having one of, if not the, best top nine in the league.

...maybe in the ECHL.

 

[Orrrules]

Lots of holes to fill on the team for sure but, I can't help but think that the Schef hit didn't mentally mess them up.

Glad I found this board, thanks for the entertainment.

 

[DannyGallivan]

I haven't been into hockey for the last few years. My current 5-year-old running amok has sucked up all energy, especially the first 3 years This was the first year I have watched hockey in some while. (Course the Habs been rather a dumpster fire as well the last little while...) so didn't know much about Hellebuyck but wow...he's incredible. Put a more credible defense in front of him and watch your team takes strides towards the cup.
I do understand what happened. Years past but every single time Koivu got hurt and taken out of the playoffs, the Habs just simply collapsed. If Chef wasn't suspended this would have been a much closer series. With that said, give PLD another chance. Sometimes, a lot of the time, just-traded players do not play well because they need more time to adapt to their new team, teammates, system, etc. The broadcasters were also saying he just looked off and thought he must be playing hurt. Who knows. but I would give him some more time before giving judgment.
All this to say, your team isn't nearly as bad as they looked in this series. A bunch of bad luck contributed...and you simply need luck during the playoffs. I hope we could play against each other again in the playoffs but with all hands on deck and everything running at full-throttle next time. Would be wild and wouldn't be surprised (at all) to see the Jets winning next time.

[edit: Oh, and huge props to Ehlers for what he did when Evans got hurt. The NHL needs more players like him.]

Montreal used a combination of horribly boring hockey and even more horrible injury/suspension luck to both the Leafs and the Jets to slink into the conference finals. I said that the Avs would win in five. That's one game longer than what I was going to say, but I thought I'd be generous.

Other than Price, Montreal is the definition of a middle-of-the-pack hockey team that got extremely lucky and had a coaching staff smart enough to play the cards they were dealt perfectly. I can't see their luck continuing against the Avs.