Confirmed with Link: Sean Walker & 5th round pick ('26) traded to Colorado for 1st round pick ('25 - top 10 protected) & Ryan Johansen - Johansen assigned to Lehigh Valley

[CanadianFlyer88]

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[CanadianFlyer88]

It's awesome the trade deadline was moved to Wednesday

TSN and Sportsnet hate days like this.

 

[Beef Invictus]

This is a win for the Flyers. There were a large amount of people who said there was no chance we’d get a 1st for Walker under any circumstances and now they’re very predictably shitting on getting a first because we have to take on an extra year and 4MM of Johansen.

Extremely small price to pay. Especially when you see the lack of value received for retention / taking on bad contracts in recent years.

Most of the people who were insisting we can't get a 1st for Walker were the ones gearing up to defend the team for not selling him, though.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I give the deal a B
They got a first, got rid of the temptation to re-sign Walker and RJ’s money is immaterial as they shouldn’t, key word shouldn’t, be spending to the cap next year anyway.

Strong C here for me.


Someone requested a poll. I like this idea. Let's make it happen.

 

[ponder719]

Danny/Front Office seem to value pick value much more than cap space. This is the second case in less than a year of taking on big cap numbers for less than market value.

TBH, good. I don't give a rats ass how much dead money this team has over the next couple years, Comcast isn't exactly hurting for cash. Flex that financial muscle, use every penny of cap and LTIR space to get more actual player value, and then, in a couple years when all the dead money clears, we'll be better off in terms of roster quality.

 

[mr figgles]

Can you retain on a retained player?

Yes. Just happened with Tanev.

 

[mercury]

B, with the possibility of going up or down half a letter grade depending on year/slot/player of the draft pick.

 

[BritainStix]

So just to make sure guys, you can definitely retain on a retained player

 

[Beef Invictus]

That's not very positive.

You got something against ravioli?

 

[Curufinwe]

Thank You - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Thank you for the amazing 9 years

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Cap Hit Calculations​

SEASON	INITIAL BASE SALARY	INITIAL CAP HIT	SIGNING BONUS	BUYOUT COST	POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS	SAVINGS	CAP HIT ( PHI)	CAP HIT ( NSH)
2024-25	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$0	$2,666,667	$2,666,667	$5,333,333	$1,333,334	$1,333,334
2025-26	$0	$0	$0	$2,666,667	$2,666,667	-$2,666,667	$1,333,334	$1,333,334
TOTAL	$8,000,000	$8,000,000	$0	$5,333,333	$5,333,333	$2,666,667	$2,666,668 (50%)	$2,666,668 (50%)

 

[Starat327]

TBH, good. I don't give a rats ass how much dead money this team has over the next couple years, Comcast isn't exactly hurting for cash. Flex that financial muscle, use every penny of cap and LTIR space to get more actual player value, and then, in a couple years when all the dead money clears, we'll be better off in terms of roster quality.

Except the Flyers flexed their financial muscle to overpay for the asset they wanted.

The smart play is to take on deafspace for assets. I think everyone would agree with that. But you don't just open up shop and say "I'm ready to pay for your picks!", you have to leverage the other teams need to clear that space. They didn't do that.

 

[bennysflyers16]

I don't want Ceci or RyJo playing on the team next year

As long as Ryjo cap hit doesnt hurt us, I prefer him not playing over playing Ceci.

Can we retain 50% and flip him or is he that useless ?

 

[Magua]

We do this every year with draft strength. That swings on mostly the top few picks, not the ones that end up traded at the deadline.

Eh, the last time Flahr had a hunch it was a bad class was 2020. That looks even more sagacious now.

 

[Beef Invictus]

So just to make sure guys, you can definitely retain on a retained player

Example:

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Thank you for the amazing 9 years

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[GKJ]

This is what I get for jumping to conclusions.



Puckpedia has Johansen's contract dump valued at 33rd overall (1st pick in round 2).

Today: 33rd overall in 2024 > 2025 1st round pick with a chance of being 2026.

That would imply Walker had negative trade value lol.

Danny/Front Office seem to value pick value much more than cap space. This is the second case in less than a year of taking on big cap numbers for less than market value.


Nobody knows that. Especially later in the round.

Only matters if you believe it. Late 1st round picks this draft aren’t held in as high regard, that’s why you saw 2 contenders jump at the chance at moving them early.

 

[Redpath]

It's tough to get upset at the Flyers utilizing their cap space to target a cap dump, letting that player thrive into an asset, and flipping him a first, while also again being willing to utilize cap space to make sure that a 1st is on the table.

In all other scenarios this would be deemed a shrewd, successful rebuild trade. I think many are just a bit bitter after the Seeler news.

 

[dgaspari]

Turning a throw in into a 1st rounder is really great work by DB, assuming theres nothing dumb tied to this.

if the Avalanche is not retaining salary, Johansen has a * 8 million dollar contract in 24/25. add in 6 million for
Petersen and the team has 14 million dollars in dead cap space. i do not see this trade as a smart move by the gmanager

 

[mr figgles]

Taking Johansen makes it a B. The extra pick from the Flyers makes it a B-

 

[BritainStix]

if the Avalanche is not retaining salary, Johansen has a * 8 million dollar contract in 24/25. add in 6 million for
Petersen and the team has 14 million dollars in dead cap space. i do not see this trade as a smart move by the gmanager

Yeah that would be true, if he wasn't already retained at 50%

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

if the Avalanche is not retaining salary, Johansen has a * 8 million dollar contract in 24/25. add in 6 million for
Petersen and the team has 14 million dollars in dead cap space. i do not see this trade as a smart move by the gmanager

Nashville already retained half of his salary. Flyers are only on the hook for $4M.

 

[Curufinwe]

To summarize my last post, the Flyers can buy our Johansen for only $1.33m in 24-25 and 25-26. Nashville would pay the other half of the buyout.

 

[mercury]

if the Avalanche is not retaining salary, Johansen has a * 8 million dollar contract in 24/25. add in 6 million for
Petersen and the team has 14 million dollars in dead cap space. i do not see this trade as a smart move by the gmanager

They were only on the hook for $4 million.

 

[bennysflyers16]

Let's hope Stars and Jets get scared of what Avs did and start to panic for the #1 Culture Club boy there is,,,,,,

Scotty "Too" Hotty

 

[ajgoal]

if the Avalanche is not retaining salary, Johansen has a * 8 million dollar contract in 24/25. add in 6 million for
Petersen and the team has 14 million dollars in dead cap space. i do not see this trade as a smart move by the gmanager

4 million for Johansen. Nashville is on the hook for the other $4 million.

 

[mercury]

To summarize my last post, the Flyers can buy our Johansen for only $1.33m in 24-25 and 25-26. Nashville would pay the other half of the buyout.

Not bad.

 

[BritainStix]

Let's hope Stars and Jets get scared of what Avs did and start to panic for the #1 Culture Club boy there is,,,,,,

Scotty "Too" Hotty

f*** that, let's sell them some size too.

Fisto and Scotty. Tag team trouble.