Confirmed with Link: [SEA/NYR] Kaapo Kakko for Will Borgen + 3rd + 6th

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Speaking of goal impacts, in the 111 minutes this year that Kakko has played without Cuylle, the Rangers have scored 1 goal and conceded 6.

getting absolutely carried to a 40 point pace by two players outplaying him by a country mile in chytil and cuylle

even with similar production a washed smith still looks far more dangerous than kakko

 

[KennyWu]

I like Kakko, not thrilled with the move.. but some people looking at Kakko like

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

I like Kakko, not thrilled with the move.. but some people looking at Kakko like

jamarcus russell once had potential too

 

[Hunter Gathers]

The Marcel Hossa comparison is a total f***ing joke my dude.

KK has hands for days, still offensive upside, more passing/playmaking than finishing, High hockey IQ, lacked confidence obviously (member JT Miller?).

There was a NHL.com fluff piece, players asked who is the best stickhandler on the team.

Adam Fox said Kaapo Kakko.

This is all just gaslighting nonsense.

He has high hockey IQ? On what planet? The guy just skates into defenders all the time.

 

[TGWL]

I was talking about Kakko. Their production is similar

Are you saying this is Kakko's off year. I am confused now.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Based on what?

Feelings, of course. It's always f***ing feelings.

Get rid of this f***ing moron.

They did. They just traded him to Seattle.

 

[Machinehead]

Somebody asked for Smith's player card yesterday and I'm surprised how good it was.

I know the cards aren't everything but just consider it for a moment. When Smith isn't on the ice with Zibanejad, the Rangers are an even 6 and 6 in goals, and their xGF% climbs from 34% to 46.5% (keep in mind the team is still pretty lousy in general).

I don't know, you guys, Reilly Smith might be good. He always was.

I know he's not visually impressive, but the impacts are there. He kind of actually is what people told themselves Kakko is, with the ability to do something skilled once in awhile.

CC: @mike14

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Somebody asked for Smith's player card yesterday and I'm surprised how good it was.

I know the cards aren't everything but just consider it for a moment. When Smith isn't on the ice with Zibanejad, the Rangers are an even 6 and 6 in goals, and their xGF% climbs from 34% to 46.5% (keep in mind the team is still pretty lousy in general).

I don't know, you guys, Reilly Smith might be good. He always was.

I know he's not visually impressive, but the impacts are there. He kind of actually is what people told themselves Kakko is, with the ability to do something skilled once in awhile.

smith has always been a guy who’s good as your 5th or 6th best top-6 player. solid complimentary skillset

 

[will1066]

Somebody asked for Smith's player card yesterday and I'm surprised how good it was.

I know the cards aren't everything but just consider it for a moment. When Smith isn't on the ice with Zibanejad, the Rangers are an even 6 and 6 in goals, and their xGF% climbs from 34% to 46.5% (keep in mind the team is still pretty lousy in general).

I don't know, you guys, Reilly Smith might be good. He always was.

I know he's not visually impressive, but the impacts are there. He kind of actually is what people told themselves Kakko is, with the ability to do something skilled once in awhile.

I've never had a problem with him. He's had his moments for sure, including the other night, but in the grand scheme of problem/not problem, he's in the latter.

 

[Ruggs225]

smith has always been a guy who’s good as your 5th or 6th best top-6 player. solid complimentary skillset

Like a chris kreider

 

[McRanger92]

Somebody asked for Smith's player card yesterday and I'm surprised how good it was.

I know the cards aren't everything but just consider it for a moment. When Smith isn't on the ice with Zibanejad, the Rangers are an even 6 and 6 in goals, and their xGF% climbs from 34% to 46.5% (keep in mind the team is still pretty lousy in general).

I don't know, you guys, Reilly Smith might be good. He always was.

I know he's not visually impressive, but the impacts are there. He kind of actually is what people told themselves Kakko is, with the ability to do something skilled once in awhile.

CC: @mike14

I like Smith but hes a UFA and doesnt fit the timeline. Him getting scratched was way more egregious than Kakko based on merit. The issue I've seen with Reilly in his bad moments are the flybys on defense. I guess his linemates are rubbing off on him. Can we get a 2nd from a contender for him with retention?

 

[Baby Duck Homme]

Rangers had a 30% off Kaako holiday sale.

He’s on lay away.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Like a chris kreider

kreider’s career is a big step up from Smith’s. Kreider’s career is that of a legit first liner. Smith is more of a decent 2nd liner

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Based on what?

We might tell ourselves that he does one or two specific things well and that his 5v5 goal impacts are decent, but he's not making any fans around the league with his play. NHL front offices are going to perceive him as very soft.

He was just traded -- we know what his value was. Where do you think it was going from there?

I sure as hell dont know what the rush was to move him. To me there was no harm in waiting to see.

 

[will1066]

Meanwhile, Seattle lists Kakko wearing #84

 

[Hunter Gathers]

I sure as hell dont know what the rush was to move him. To me there was no harm in waiting to see.

I don't have a problem moving a guy whining about being scratched.

 

[bhamill]

So.
I didn’t think Drury would trade KK (and was obviously dead f***ing wrong) because I didn’t think his value around the league would match the value of KK to this team (and maybe I was right about that). A 3rd, 6th and a player I’m honestly not familiar with… I guess I’ll give Borgen a chance. If he performs well, (he’s big, fast and physical? That sounds okay) and/or can be flipped at the deadline for a 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th? That’s not TERRIBLE value… On the other hand if he borgens the bed here… bad value. IMO of course, but as was pointed out to me yesterday I tended optimistic on what Kakko was going to be…

I still wish Kakko well. Decent kid in a bad fit.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

Quite a difference a year makes

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Meanwhile, Seattle lists Kakko wearing #84

awful number. screams bust

Quite a difference a year makes
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it’s the haircut

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I don't have a problem moving a guy whining about being scratched

Cool. Noted.

 

[Hunter Gathers]

Cool. Noted.

You seem mad that we traded a bum. Why?

 

[Machinehead]

Meanwhile, Seattle lists Kakko wearing #84

And he picks an ugly number too. Guy exists to annoy me.

 

[will1066]

awful number. screams bust


it’s the haircut

Edstrom wears #84 as well

 

[Machinehead]

Quite a difference a year makes
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The obvious explanation here is the haircut.

 

[JESSEWENEEDTOCOOK]

Edstrom wears #84 as well

he should pick a real number too