SCF: Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers (Series Tied 3-3) Hold onto your butts, Game 7, Monday 8/24 @ 8pm ET !

[Leonardo87]

**Stanley Cup Final**
Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers

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[IceManCat]

What's so bizarre? - Fan dick measuring being cringey or that you can't blame fans from staying away from a horrible product?

Are you a fan or not? If that’s the case then you wouldn’t watch certain teams for an entire decade. The Leafs haven’t been to the cup in 50 years should all their fans turn on a chess match instead? If you don’t like hockey and you’re a little fair weather fan just watch TSN highlights. And I’m from Miami don’t know a single person that goes clubbing 7 days a week. I guess we can’t enjoy anything that isn’t the beach . Wtf kind of hot take is this??

 

[Ratsreign]

Lomberg. Interesting. I noticed he started the rags series but didn’t end it. What happened there?

They never said (at least that I heard), either a little banged up, or maybe Maurice thought he was going to have trouble staying out of the box.

 

[The Great Gagsby]

Are you a fan or not? If that’s the case then you wouldn’t watch certain teams for an entire decade. The Leafs haven’t been to the cup in 50 years should all their fans turn on a chess match instead? If you don’t like hockey and you’re a little fair weather fan just watch TSN highlights. And I’m from Miami don’t know a single person that goes clubbing 7 days a week. I guess we can’t enjoy anything that isn’t the beach . Wtf kind of hot take is this??

If you're willing to spend hundreds to thousands a year on shitty teams and shitty ownerships and still enjoy it good for you. You love the game.

But somehow delegitimizing fans for not wanting to invest their time or emotion on an organization that didn't want to invest in the fan is wack.

Not many businesses have the luxury of completely neglecting their customer and not feeling the impact. It's the furthest thing from a hot take.

 

[McHelpus]

The "Real fans" thing is cringey. Sitting in a seat watching star athletes achieve their goals certainly doesn't make you better than anyone else.

And for Panthers fans, anyone in the past who spent money to watch a team that didn't spend or give a crap about the fans for decades is a moron or a masochist. Especially when theres as much as there is to do in the city.

This is a terrible take. He is claiming how they got 20,000 supporting the panthers while having 4 pro sports team around. All I said was if it wasn't for this year, they are always ranked bottom of attendance. Not sure why I'm getting criticism for calling out bs.

 

[WaitingForUser]

Well I atleast have some arguments to bring up. And the +/- reflects pretty well the difference between Florida and Edmonton defense.

I watched game 6 Edmonton vs Dallas and neither team really impressed me. Dallas looked a lot more energetic against Colorado and Vegas, and I guess that's the reason many, including me, thought they'd win the series against Oilers. That being said the Oilers looked just bad, they couldn't do anything 5v5 but turtle defense. Eventually that, a few goal posts and Skinner playing good was enough, but the Oilers got really lucky to win that one. You could argue that they were protecting the lead but it's not that, they we're hemmed into their own zone from the puck drop.

I don't think the Panthers have ran out of fuel at all, and are healthy, unlike the Stars, and if that group can dominate against Oilers 5v5 like they did in game 6, I wouldn't bet against the Panthers to be able to do much of the same.

If this is what you are basing it on I suggest watching games 4 and 5. This will give a the full picture of what the Cats are up against

 

[TheNumber4]

They never said (at least that I heard), either a little banged up, or maybe Maurice thought he was going to have trouble staying out of the box.

Hm interesting. I could see the penalty risk aspect of it, dude gets his hands up a lot for his body checks.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

The whole team is contemplating forfeiting the series because of Florida’s never before seen defensive prowess.

The Panthers were 2nd in goals allowed during the regular season at 200. LA was 3rd at 215.

LA basically manhandled McDavid IIRC

Vancouver was 5th and Dallas was 8th.

 

[CanePanther]

Here’s my real opinion from a cats fan. zNo metrics no stats just a quick overview.Forget the Snipers we all know are very dangerous it’s the defensive group that impresses me about the Oilers. Oilers also have some big duds that Vegas had but we have speed and will pummel the net. Personally I have concern but the sheer depth of Florida just makes me sleep better at night.

 

[TheNumber4]

Here’s my real opinion from a cats fan. zNo metrics no stats just a quick overview.Forget the Snipers we all know are very dangerous it’s the defensive group that impresses me about the Oilers. Oilers also have some big duds that Vegas had but we have speed and will pummel the net. Personally I have concern but the sheer depth of Florida just makes me sleep better at night.

Oilers are faster.

Oilers don’t really have that many snipers.

The depth storyline preceeeding both the Nucks and Stars series are now in shambles. Maybe 3rd time will be a charm for the cats.

 

[Two4Fighting]

They have the seen the likes of Danault, Kopitar, Miller, and Hintz. Those guys are no slouches.
When Connor and Leon are on, there's not a player in the league that can stop them. Not even Barkov

Yeah, we heard that before, from the other teams, but here we are.

 

[PuckG]

The Panthers were 2nd in goals allowed during the regular season at 200. LA was 3rd at 215.

LA basically manhandled McDavid IIRC

They did?

He had 12 points in 5 games. If that’s the definition of defensive prowess, no wonder everyone thinks Florida is so vastly superior.

 

[IceManCat]

If this is what you are basing it on I suggest watching games 4 and 5. This will give a the full picture of what the Cats are up against

I have these two teams as being dead even. With the exception of goaltending heavily favoring the Panthers.

 

[Ratsreign]

Hm interesting. I could see the penalty risk aspect of it, dude gets his hands up a lot for his body checks.

Good thing he’s only 5’9” lol

 

[Ratsreign]

Wow our attendance was bad during our decades of crappy teams and crappy ownership.

We don’t have a Gretzky era to hold onto. We have one year that held us over for 25 years. Almost everything else was a storm of shit from bad team performance to piss-poor ownership.

I respect the Oilers and you guys. However let’s leave the fanbase dick-measuring out of this please. We’re having a boom for the first time in our history so people are joining in and hopefully here to stay.

People need to remember that this was the organization (before current ownership) that would do things like trade fan favorite and franchise goalie Roberto Luongo instead of paying him, and trade him for a bunch of shit.
Oooh yeah, people gonna just throw money and support behind that.
The fans here may not number like they do in Canada (sacrebleu! Htf can that be possible!), but they do know hockey, and they know bullshit when they see it.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

They did?

He had 12 points in 5 games. If that’s the definition of defensive prowess, no wonder everyone thinks Florida is so vastly superior.

My comment was sarcastic. LOL.

Also, there seems to be a lot of focus on Skinner-as no doubt there should be. Who knows how he'll play.

But Bobrovsky is also a wild card. When he was with Columbus we had a name for his crappy playoff performances. It was "Playoff Bob."

Playoff Bob is just as likely to happen as Skinner is to blow up. Bob wasn't even the starter at the beginning of last season's playoffs. He's a bit of a head case and could easily succumb to the pressure of the Final round this year.

 

[Two4Fighting]

It'll be interesting to see how the health of both teams holds up in this series.

Oilers just came off a series where they weren't challenged physically really much at all.

Panthers are the most physical team in these playoffs, but will that take a toll on them in the Finals? I seem to remember then being really worn down against Vegas last year. Their style is tough to maintain but somehow they find a way to do it

I also don't trust either teams defense on an individual level (not team defense). Lot of guys in there that can be exposed. Stars didn't have the speed or physicality to do it to Edmonton. Panthers have a lot of spare part type players on their defense too. Outside of Ekblad all those guys were not good players not so long ago. Forsling I trust but the others, not so much. McDavid/Draisaitl out there will be a lot to handle for them, but the Panthers forwards do help out a lot. Bobrovsky and Skinner will have their hands full.

By the time the Panther got to the Finals, they were so broken, they played with a skeleton crew, at that time no one knew how bad it was, katchuck, Ekblad, Montour, Loustarine, all with fractures.
I do agree on McDavid and Drasitle, they are incredible players, and they are riding high. I expect this finals to be exciting, lots of goals on both sides. I don't expect it to be physical beyond the first game, it will be all Bussiness from there on.

 

[Ratsreign]

This is a terrible take. He is claiming how they got 20,000 supporting the panthers while having 4 pro sports team around. All I said was if it wasn't for this year, they are always ranked bottom of attendance. Not sure why I'm getting criticism for calling out bs.

Your initial post was BS, that’s what you’re being called out for.

 

[TheNumber4]

Good thing he’s only 5’9” lol

Plays like an animal. I like the player.

 

[Ratsreign]

Bob wasn't even the starter at the beginning of last season's playoffs.

Bob was out with illness. Lyon came in and went on a crazy heater. Maurice let it roll until Lyon came back down to Earth, then went back to the goalie who had been #1 all along.

Plays like an animal. I like the player.

Fans all love him. He’s like the Tasmanian Devil out there. Plays hard every time on the ice. Has to keep it under control a bit better at times, though.

 

[cotopaxi]

1 game sample size is what you are basing your assessment of Oilers hockey on?

Well if you get 10 total shots in a conference final game 6 at home which is the most important game of the season until that point, it certainly is big enough sample size to make some assessments - the Oilers are not as structured team as many here claim them to be. Does it matter? Probably, but you still have the best player in the world on your team.

I think there's a lot of stuff going right for Edmonton at this moment, but for how long? Their special teams success is not sustainable. Skinner's play is probably not sustainable, or Bouchard's. I don't think these arguments apply to the Panthers, they have played up and down the lineup very consistent and structured hockey, with no dead weights or liabilities on the team.

 

[MoreDifferentS]

Yeah, we heard that before, from the other teams, but here we are.

My favourite part of this McDavid vs Barkov angle is the fans on boths sides saying, "yeah, but your guy hasn't faced someone like our guy" and "yeah, thats what all the other teams' fans said too" because both sides are completely correct in both statements.

This is the best offensive weapon in the league versus the best defensive forward in the league, this should easily be both players' toughest individual matchups so far.

 

[Ratsreign]

lots of goals on both sides.

At least chances for a lot of goals, even if the goalies manage to keep scores low.

 

[Skolman]

Well I atleast have some arguments to bring up. And the +/- reflects pretty well the difference between Florida and Edmonton defense.

I watched game 6 Edmonton vs Dallas and neither team really impressed me. Dallas looked a lot more energetic against Colorado and Vegas, and I guess that's the reason many, including me, thought they'd win the series against Oilers. That being said the Oilers looked just bad, they couldn't do anything 5v5 but turtle defense. Eventually that, a few goal posts and Skinner playing good was enough, but the Oilers got really lucky to win that one. You could argue that they were protecting the lead but it's not that, they we're hemmed into their own zone from the puck drop.

I don't think the Panthers have ran out of fuel at all, and are healthy, unlike the Stars, and if that group can dominate against Oilers 5v5 like they did in game 6, I wouldn't bet against the Panthers to be able to do much of the same.

Oh boy, sounds good

We'll revisit this

 

[CupsOverCash]

Mcdavid in 7

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I heard that McDavid might not play this series.

He's terrified of being embarrassed by Barkov and Forsling.

Would it really be embarrassing to lose to the best D to ever lace them up?

you would notice the same thing if you had watched the oilers play, but its ok we can all meet right back here after game 1 and discuss. just have a feeling it will be a conversation on what the panthers have to adjust to deal with the oilers. just like dallas


ive been to your arena and the amount of fans dressed up like empty seats was amazing. must be the florida camo ive heard so much about.

Rumor is that in between shifts, Forsling is out in the stands escorting trouble makers out.