**Stanley Cup Final**
Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers
Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers
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SCF: Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers (Series Tied 3-3) Hold onto your butts, Game 7, Monday 8/24 @ 8pm ET !
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KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
The way the Avs tore Winnipeg a new one scared me. They completely tore us apart two years ago. Dallas deserves a ton of credit for beating them. Yeah losing Nichuskin certainly helps but still.
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Like that matters in any substantial way?
The only way that could possibly matter is... Perhaps that’s why you beat Dallas, because they were worn out by the hard pathway through better teams just to reach Edmonton
Gentle Man
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revisionist.
Boston tanked to avoid Tampa because they were coming in hot. They were being touted on how good they looked. So we are just going to pretend just because they werent called "contenders" they were insignificant?
Then Boston was only 1 point behind us and New York was the president's trophy winners.
Ill let you make that distinction.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
What's funny is the Avalanche are basically exactly what everyone here accuses the Oilers of being - basically a one line team that lives or dies with the play of about two players.
They just don't get the credit for it because people don't have the same zest for explaining away their success like they do with the Oilers.
WaitingForUser
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This is why I laugh with all the analysts and lots of people here calling an easy sweep for the Panthers. If you want two juggernaut teams as close to even as possible in the finals, this is it.
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Ratsreign
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Funny when he was unhappily yelling at the refs during a stoppage,
Supposedly Tarasenko translated it for the ref.
“He said to do your f***ing job.”
Only one of those guys is a career PPG+ in the playoffs.
Cool, they shut out a bunch of RNHs.
What I love about these pre-series threads is everyone is talking with authority on who is better and which teams had a tougher path to the finals etc.
Both teams have won 12 games.
Both teams have enough depth to win three playoff series.
Both teams have what it takes to win the cup.
This series is going to be defined by things none of us know yet. A key player may get hurt for one of the teams early in the series. A bad penalty might get called late in a game gifting a team a win. The "incredible forecheck" of the Panthers may not look so incredible against the Oilers. The "incredible penalty kill" of the Oilers might not look so incredible against the Panthers.
What I am pumped about is we have two teams with INCREDIBLE high end talent that are going to go out and try to win a Stanley Cup.
The bounces are going to bounce. The ice is going to tilt back and forth. At the end of the series only one team is going to be holding the cup. Hopefully it is my team - but I am not going to be talking smack about the Panthers before or after the series. They are a great team that deserves to be here - and so are the Oilers.
Both teams have won 12 games.
Both teams have enough depth to win three playoff series.
Both teams have what it takes to win the cup.
This series is going to be defined by things none of us know yet. A key player may get hurt for one of the teams early in the series. A bad penalty might get called late in a game gifting a team a win. The "incredible forecheck" of the Panthers may not look so incredible against the Oilers. The "incredible penalty kill" of the Oilers might not look so incredible against the Panthers.
What I am pumped about is we have two teams with INCREDIBLE high end talent that are going to go out and try to win a Stanley Cup.
The bounces are going to bounce. The ice is going to tilt back and forth. At the end of the series only one team is going to be holding the cup. Hopefully it is my team - but I am not going to be talking smack about the Panthers before or after the series. They are a great team that deserves to be here - and so are the Oilers.
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belowLike that matters in any substantial way?
The only way that could possibly matter is... Perhaps that’s why you beat Dallas, because they were worn out by the hard pathway through better teams just to reach Edmonton
Boston farmed OT losses and had one of the worst 1-2 punches in the playoffs.. nobody was raving about how good they looked
New York was considered to be a threat, but their President's Trophy win was the most unimpressive of the last eight years
Both teams would have been dismantled in the West
McFlyingV
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Why do you keep straw manning my posts lol. I'm not even criticizing Bob, I've just stated he hasn't been unbeatable in these playoffs. I'm well aware Florida is an excellent 5 on 5 team and even gave them credit in the first post of mine you quoted. This is a weird interaction you're trying to have.He didn’t have to stand on his head like the opposition did, but he came up big when he was needed. What more can you ask for?
Should the Panthers play suckier so their goalie can look better?
Yeah, idk, kind of surprises me how many people have been surprised by the Oilers this post season.
It's like. Even with the atrocious start... Like we were literally an analytic darling wagon last year that Vegas said was their biggest challenge and made analytic darling saw em good changes in the offseason.
Then we were the top team analytically all season, even during the 3-9-1 disaster start, and if you take away the disaster start where we had historically impossibly low PDP that started with an 8... we went 87% of the season where we were statistically a top tier team.
drktmplr12
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Please name all the 'x' players who were supposed to shut down 97 for DAL, VAN, and LA, then let's compare them to barkov and forsling
McFlyingV
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I mean I already said Florida was a top 5 team at 5 on 5 and that NYR were the odd team out in the final 4. Not sure why you guys are so insistent on trying to convince me that they're a very good defensive team when I've already acknowledged that. Are all Florida fans this persistent to make something out of nothing?
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You said Bob was “outplayed”, you tried to imply that he hasn’t been all that good this year. Twice.
Danault, Kopitar, Gavrikov, Miller, Hughes, Zadorov, Soucy, Tanev, Heiskanen, Hintz.. I think.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
drktmplr12
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Of those forwards, which are a caliber of 2 way forward as barkov?
Forsling is also one of, if not, the best in the league at suppressing rushes through the neutral zone
Amen.
The lengths people are going to argue over which team is "deeper" or who had the hardest path are wasting their breath. It's totally irrelevant.
These are two elite teams that both have various different strengths and weaknesses that will probably engage in a tight series. Nonsense like "duhhh Oilers have no depth!" or "The Panthers had an easy path!" are both individually stupid statements.
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What exactly does that have to do with now? Not a damn thing. Panthers beat whoever the playoff bracket put in front of them. You are trying to use this as some kind of indicator of who is a better team, it’s silly. And I’ll say again, if you want to find something in each team’s path taken, maybe Dallas’ hard road is what softened them up enough for the oil to win.
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What are you grading Barkov and Forsling on? How good they are at shutting down a bunch of career sub ppg playoff choke artists (excluding Kucherov)?
None of them for sure.
But based on last years Selke voting, we ran through a good amount.
And found this years too
tacogeoff
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And I'll say this, I don't know how good Barkov and McDavid will do against each other... But I'm dying to see it!
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