SCF: Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers (Series Tied 3-3) Hold onto your butts, Game 7, Monday 8/24 @ 8pm ET !

[Leonardo87]

**Stanley Cup Final**
Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers

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[pb1300]

Not holding anything against Bob he's played well as I said. But he hasn't stood on his head like Swayman, Shesty or Otter did for large parts of the playoffs and the stats and advanced stats support that. Last playoffs Bob stood on his head at that level.

The Panthers last playoffs to this playoffs is night and day. They are a MUCH better team defensively, have brought in better personnel to shore up the defense and bottom six, which is why they have not had to rely on Bob as much. When they have though, he has been money for the most part.

Dallas beat way better teams than Florida did though

Cool story. And the Panthers had to go against Vasilevskiy, Swayman, then Igor. Murderers row that no team in the West had to face.

 

[Whoozer76]

New member and first post to predict the Oilers hoisting the Stanley Cup at home at the end of a Game 6 overtime win!

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

Huh that's interesting. My STH email from this morning says they're on sale on Wednesday.

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So. Maybe double check that, and call your credit card company.

It's a private deal with a STH.
No need to double check anything.

 

[SavoieSeason]

Cool story. And the Panthers had to go against Vasilevskiy, Swayman, then Igor. Murderers row that no team in the West had to face.

So what? Everyone knew going in to the playoffs that those teams had good goalies and yet only the Rangers were ever considered contenders, and that was only after they swept the worst team in the playoffs.

 

[Leonardo87]

Hey Folks,

The McDavid video with fans harassing him, is derailing the thread, and is not the subject.

Thank you.

 

[RogerRoger]

I read something about you guys giving the Rangers a lot of breakaways or something?


In this day and age when morons are raised by other morons on social media? Good luck, Rats.

We gave 133 breakaway during the regular season, good for 32nd in the league. In the playoffs it was about 2 a game, even against Boston and Tampa.

Oilers and Panthers are both top 5 against the rush. Sadly for the Oilers' D, that strenght is kind of negated by the Panthers being 32nd in off the rush chances. Panthers don't even try them.

 

[Captain Monglobster]

Does it work the same if you can't pay the oilers roster 10x what the rest of the league is being paid as is tradition?

"Im sorry I dont speak english" - Igor Shesterkin

 

[SupremeTeam16]

I think these are two pretty evenly matched teams with the wild card being goaltending. Both coaches have their teams fully bought in and playing at a high level so I think it’ll be an exciting series.

Hopeful the Oilers can bring it home but if they come up short then I don’t mind that it’s to a team in the Panthers that have been around for a long time but never won. They’re a good team but they’ve had some tough stretches, but I would feel a little conflicted as it would be funny to see the Flames have to watch two of their highest picks ever win a Cup with another team but I also can’t stand Tkachuk. He’s a hell of a player so there’s a layer of respect sprinkled with hate. A hateful respect.

 

[pb1300]

HFBoards...where going against 3 of the top 5 goalies in one conference run is now no big deal. LMAO!

 

[SavoieSeason]

HFBoards... where knocking out three teams who weren't considered contenders entering the playoffs makes you a titan. LMAO!

 

[Mike C]

Uh; what?

There were a ton of people saying that, including reporters

Uh; what?

There were a ton of people saying that, including reporters

Which ones Emily and Leah?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

HFBoards...where going against 3 of the top 5 goalies in one conference run is now no big deal. LMAO!

I mean that's just one part of the team. Vasilevsky was Toronto's best player in 2023.

 

[Tebowz]

There's a reason the majority of the media picked Florida. Oilers haven't face a defensive team like this. McDrai will have zero room out there and will struggle .

 

[voxel]

These teams are way closer than I thought. The record in the last 72 games.

(Steve Dangle Podcast - Leaf fans know him quite well lol)

 

[Ratsreign]

Not holding anything against Bob he's played well as I said. But he hasn't stood on his head like Swayman, Shesty or Otter did for large parts of the playoffs and the stats and advanced stats support that. Last playoffs Bob stood on his head at that level.

He didn’t have to stand on his head like the opposition did, but he came up big when he was needed. What more can you ask for?
Should the Panthers play suckier so their goalie can look better?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

There's a reason the majority of the media picked Florida. Oilers haven't face a defensive team like this. McDrai will have zero room out there and will struggle .

Conversely, the Panthers haven't faced an offensive team like the Oilers.

 

[Mike C]

I mean, I still don't believe the Panthers are deeper than the Stars.

It should be a great series though

Stars played 4 defenseman the last game after Suter got benched essentially and 5 most of the series. They dressed a rookie making his NHL debut in game 6. I think Fla is deeper but that's just me

 

[SavoieSeason]

He didn’t have to stand on his head like the opposition did, but he came up big when he was needed. What more can you ask for?
Should the Panthers play suckier so their goalie can look better?

He's been fine, but definitely let in some softies. He could absolutely turn into a brick wall at any point but hasn't been one yet.

 

[Coffey]

Conversely, the Panthers haven't faced an offensive team like the Oilers.

Get ready for "shut down Panarin, Kucherov, Pastrnak, Zibenajad, etc"

 

[Ugene Magic]

Oilers have better defensemen than the Panthers. Bouchard-Ekholm has been the best pairing in the playoffs. In net, Skinner has shown he can steal playoff games. For forwards, the Oilers have at least 3 lines that can score.

The Oilers could beat the Panthers as they are the better team.

While a lot of this is true, after Hyman there's a huge drop off. It's almost like they depend on their top 5 producers to win consistently. The last couple games they relied on their PP and their top 5 players to close it out. Bouchard playing behind McDavid and the top PP does affect his stature.

McDavid
Draisaitl
Bouchard
RNH
Hyman

These 5 players are what keeps them afloat.

The rest are in single digits.

9 players are a negative impact with Nurse leading the way at -13

So the Panthers need to concentrate on 5 guys and limit them as best they can while also staying out of the box.

I don't think they are a better team, but they got some better pieces, for sure.

 

[Ratsreign]

Whenever the Oilers get a breakaway it's always the player least likely to score.

Hockey gods deem it must be so.

“...and it’s Kulikov going in all alone on the goalie.....”

 

[GermanPanther]

Depth! Balance.

The Panthers definitely have both, but so do the Oilers which people can't seem to bring themselves to acknowledge.

I'll repeat - "depth" and "balance" aren't the determining factors this late in the playoffs. Both teams are deep, both teams have balance. This is what wins the series:

How good are your Players on Game Day. If they are by 120, 100 or only 70%. nothing else.
Depth is important, on the Year Caps won the Cup, their fourth Line was the difference in 2 Series. And had the Game winning Goal.
But that mean their fourth Line Player played more Games on 100% and over.
Even the best Player in the World could have a bad Day in the Playoffs, that why we are humans.

 

[Gentle Man]

Dallas beat way better teams than Florida did though

Did they actually though

I get Vegas. And I actually think thats what hurt Dallas in the late round of the playoffs. You play a tough team like that right off the bat, the taxes will need to be paid like we did last year against Boston. And I can say Vegas weren't at their peak given the roster turnover they had (they had big names they added this year at the deadline vs just adding Barbashev last year). A lot of unfamiliarity there.

Then you got the Avs who lost Nichuskin and had a goalie they dubbed Fourgiev themselves.

Dallas looked a lot like we did in the Cup Finals last year to be honest. Tired and broken. Hell, you just saw Pavelski retire. They had a Dman playing 3 minutes a night and a ton of old legs with tons of mileage on there.

We faced a player with over 140 points just like Dallas did. We faced an ex champion, and our own demons just as Dallas did in Tampa. And New York is New York. And yea, we didnt score that many goals this playoffs. But who would against Vasy, Swayman, and Shesterkin lol.

 

[K1984]

While a lot of this is true, after Hyman there's a huge drop off. It's almost like they depend on their top 5 producers to win consistently. The last couple games they relied on their PP and their top 5 players to close it out. Bouchard playing behind McDavid and the top PP does affect his stature.

McDavid
Draisaitl
Bouchard
RNH
Hyman

These 5 players are what keeps them afloat.

The rest are in single digits.

9 players are a negative impact with Nurse leading the way at -13

So the Panthers need to concentrate on 5 guys and limit them as best they can while also staying out of the box.

I don't think they are a better team, but they got some better pieces, for sure.

A team relying on their best players spread across various positions?!

Crazy! They must be like almost every other team.

 

[SavoieSeason]

Did they actually though

I get Vegas. And I actually think thats what hurt Dallas in the late round of the playoffs. You play a tough team like that right off the bat, the taxes will need to be paid like we did last year against Boston. And I can say Vegas weren't at their peak given the roster turnover they had (they had big names they added this year at the deadline vs just adding Barbashev last year). A lot of unfamiliarity there.

Then you got the Avs who lost Nichuskin and had a goalie they dubbed Fourgiev themselves.

Dallas looked a lot like we did in the Cup Finals last year to be honest. Tired and broken. Hell, you just saw Pavelski retire. They had a Dman playing 3 minutes a night and a ton of old legs with tons of mileage on there.

We faced a player with over 140 points just like Dallas did. We faced an ex champion, and our own demons just as Dallas did in Tampa. And New York is New York

how many of those teams were ever considered to be contenders?