SCF: Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers (Series Tied 3-3) Hold onto your butts, Game 7, Monday 8/24 @ 8pm ET !

[Leonardo87]

**Stanley Cup Final**
Florida Panthers vs Edmonton Oilers

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[Mike C]

No one is agitating anyone anymore.. that shit is for first couple games only. Oilers are now just taking the hit and making the plays.


Don't agree ... they have been giving it their best and have had good stretches of pressure.
PP is costing them this series.

Let's say you're right on the agitating for the sake of argument. Even so, I suit Perry over Gagner in game 7 all day every day

 

[Leonardo87]

Mods here generally do a great job but I do think it would be cool if we were able to have prediction threads or at least separate polls for each game

The issue is, it will create another discussion thread on the same series which will be the same topic. It also makes the mod team unable to enforce thread bans for this thread , since those members who have not exactly been civil, the ability to post in another thread.

 

[PaulD]

I get it that Edm is using there speed but there are ways to slow them down but the problem is Florida right now is so confused they don't know what to do and are getting cought out of position. The speed game isn't something new to the NHL. It has alway been there with many teams.

They are also running on empty.

 

[Bradely]

They made adjustments along the way. If the win, the play of Skinner and the shutdown penalty killing will be the difference

.............................and 2 X 4 pts game for 97!

 

[GOilers88]

No. Oilers fans will if they lose.

For most of us Panthers’ fans, the series ended yesterday. Game 7 is just a formality at this point.

So losing on Monday won’t do much.

What's the point in watching sports if you give up before things have played out? It's all over this forum, and the internet in general. It's so weak, and I said the same thing on our own board after people had given up after game 1, let alone when they went down 0-3.

Fans always talk about players being weak mentally, but it's those same fans who throw in the towel everytime things don't just fall into place and go their way.

I really don't understand it. Is it about being able to say I told you so? Like, a proud to have called a loss kind of thing? It's so strange and the complete opposite of the spirit of the games themselves.

 

[RMF5630]

Statistics.

If a team is 0-3 what does it tell about these two teams? Generally, it tells you that the team that won the first three games is the better team, by a good margin.

So when considering comebacks from down 0-3, we're not just considering the odds of winning 4 in a row, we're also considering that the team you need to win against is probably far better than your team.

Here's why this stat is stupid and misleading:

This has happened 27 times. In game 4, the team that was down 0-3 is 7-20.

So the vast majority of the stat is accounted for by simply assuming that the team that's down 0-3 is the significantly worse team. But even after just one win to bring it to 1-3, the probabilities get skewed so much that almost all of that bias is gone. So of the 7, two teams made it to 3-3. That's already above expectations(Now even more so, with 3 out of 8).

The point is, the important hurdle was the 1-3 victory. After that, the stat from 0-3 is completely meaningless. We have new information, and need to make use of it.

Right now, what matters is the stats at 3-3. The fact that the series used to be 0-3 is of very minor significance in the grand scheme of things.

Not if the teams haven't seen each other. FLA has the same pattern, they jump on top with the forecheck. Not many teams play it, so it takes a game or 2 to get it down. There is a reason why they went up in every series and then it stretched out. They play a style that is not in vogue. It is like facing a Knuckleball pitcher, takes an at bat or two to get it down. FLA returns to the norm over a long series because the other team is now ready. Maurice gambles that he can win one out of 3 or 2 out of 3. This is a style thing more than a personnel thing.

 

[Leonardo87]

New poll up, results from last poll in OP, and on top of each page.

 

[Bradely]

Verhagy and Reinhart look terrible the last several games. Barkov still a beast. Florida has lost the jump they had for the first 3 rounds. Their forecheck is non existent. The oilers stretch the ice and execute the flip under pressure. If Florida doesn't have a new game plan or get their top 6 producing again game 7 will be a very similar score to game 6. Bob isn't going to win the cup for you.

I thought Barkov game 4 and 5 was mehhh. 19 isn't having a great one.
And Bob ain't playing like the Bob ..

Then add Verhagy and Reinhard cause they weren't playing that much either in the 3 first.

 

[GOilers88]

Was there an HF poll? Curious as to what that would say.

Not that I put any weight into a poll, but even then I can guarantee it says that the suggestion that nobody outside of Alberta is rooting for the cup to go to Canada is just silly.

 

[Mike C]

.............................and 2 X 4 pts game for 97!

True but honestly, I think Edm wins those games anyway if McD plays like a mortal

 

[Bradely]

went for Edmonton on game 7, just because I hope they win. Game 7 is a flip coin!

 

[flashy]

well that decides that...

 

[Seattle Totems]

What is the record for the home team in game 7 in this situation? I know it's 5-4 lifetime for the team that was up 3-0 but is it something like 4-1 for the home team?

I have no idea and I don't think it matters. Home ice advantage doesn't mean a thing if the opposition is this dominant.

The fact that the Panthers were up 3-0 seems more like an anomaly then a series predictor at this point. The reverse sweep odds are basically irrelevant now.

The most telling fact is the Oilers overall dominance in the series.

The Oilers have scored more than 5 goals 3 times in this final. Only 5 other teams have done this and they have all won the Cup.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Leon looked better last night, I think he has a big game 7.

Give me Oilers 4-3 in overtime with a hatty from Drai

 

[Legend123]

I don't know what happened to the Panthers, they just became kittens

 

[flashy]

if they cant get their cycle going. they are neutralized.

 

[winnipegger]

I don't know what happened to the Panthers, they just became kittens

They were fortunate to be up 3-0. Bob was playing like Hasek. I think Maurice knew it. This is chickens coming home to roost.

 

[These Are The Days]

I have literally never been so ready for the memes in all my life.


Is it Monday yet?

 

[sansabri]

if i'm a cats fan, i'm blaming Maurice

 

[Mike C]

How much credit does he get for taking Nurse and Ceci away from each other every single series? Same with last night: he makes a move that was clearly the wrong one in starting Perry with Draisitl and then gets credit for reuniting the line that was working

The guy has earned my respect for several reasons. Not the least is he's polite and respectful to answer that dolt Emily Kaplan's idiotic mid game questions.

 

[Skolman]

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By my count (and I could be wrong) Hometeam is 9-3 in Game 7 Finals.

I think it's safe to say you can throw out all previous Stanley Cup Final records when it comes to this Oiler team

 

[Czechboy]

I think it's safe to say you can throw out all previous Stanley Cup Final records when it comes to this Oiler team

Probably true but I do like to look these things up.lol

 

[smitty10]

Let's go Oilers!

One of the few times in my life I've rooted for a team that's not Toronto-based.

 

[LTIR]

Let's say you're right on the agitating for the sake of argument. Even so, I suit Perry over Gagner in game 7 all day every day

Agree. Gagner suggestion wasn't a serious one. Kane gets in well before Gagner.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Even when I predicted Florida in 6, I followed it up with 'If it goes to 7, McDavid isn't losing".

I stand by that last part, even though stranger things have happened.