Player Discussion Ryan Strome

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middle six players are 2nd and 3rd liners...so you think paying 2nd liners $4 mil is how you end up in cap trouble?
Legit, higher-end, closer to first liners, like a Stepan? No.

Third liners? Probably. You can generally replace a third liner very easily for half the money. That's the type of management the NHL's cap system forces.

Middle of the road players like Strome, Fast, probably Buchnevich end up being a detriment because they're not worth on the ice what they ultimately command in a contract.

They can be replaced with guys on ELC and one-year deals where your core players can't.
 
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Legit, higher-end, closer to first liners, like a Stepan? No.

Third liners? Probably. You can generally replace a third liner very easily for half the money. That's the type of management the NHL's cap system forces.

Middle of the road players like Strome, Fast, probably Buchnevich end up being a detriment because they're not worth on the ice what they ultimately command in a contract.

They can be replaced with guys on ELC and one-year deals where your core players can't.

Find the Brassard's (Current Islanders version) and Pouliot's, and don't pay excess for replaceable players.
 
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Find the Brassard's (Current Islanders version) and Pouliot's, and don't pay excess for replaceable players.
Exactly, and then move on if/when they exceed that status, like we did with Brassard and Pouliot.

Instead of signing Strome, sell high for assets and then find the next Strome.
 
Strome's hockey IQ is so high. Right play every time, all over the ice. There's always room on a roster for a player as heady and versatile as Strome.
 
He was one of the worst defensive forwards in the NHL last year. New scenery, new system, and he's been better at it so let's see how it goes.

That whole conversation you jumped into the other day (which is why we read before we post) was about him being as good as Stepan. That's exactly what I mean about the Strome takes.
:laugh:

Stepan and Strome are in the same tier and are both middle 6 forwards.

It's not a 'hot take'. It's your reading comprehension
 
I put some faith in some of those things. Not enough to think it’s wise to pay the guy as if this is his expected production long term.
And yet history is littered with players who either needed a change of scenery by getting another chance elsewhere. See Bertuzzi, Todd. And, while not the same sport, look at Paul O'Neil or Didi on the Yankees.
 
And yet history is littered with players who either needed a change of scenery by getting another chance elsewhere. See Bertuzzi, Todd. And, while not the same sport, look at Paul O'Neil or Didi on the Yankees.
History is also littered with players who were paid long term based on a single season mid career and ended up not recreating it again. Re-sign him, just not long term. It’s a needless risk.
 
He was one of the worst defensive forwards in the NHL last year. New scenery, new system, and he's been better at it so let's see how it goes.
Seems to be going pretty well so far.
That whole conversation you jumped into the other day (which is why we read before we post) was about him being as good as Stepan. That's exactly what I mean about the Strome takes.
One of the reasons we should actually read is so that we understand what people are asking you. My response to you was why are you talking about Stepan to me when the discussion regarding that is with someone else?
 
History is also littered with players who were paid long term based on a single season mid career and ended up not recreating it again. Re-sign him, just not long term. It’s a needless risk.
First of all, I would need to see how the rest of the season goes, not just 11 games before I can even have this discussion. Second of all, if he becomes a 50 point player, signing him to a $4m, 4 year deal becomes smart business. I doubt that the team will look to give him a 6 year deal. Though again, it depends entirely on what he does for the rest of the year.
 
Instead of signing Strome, sell high for assets and then find the next Strome.
Does not always work that way. Simply stating "Find the next Strome" is great with tunnel vision. But not that easy to work out. Sometimes failed former top prospects just stay that way.
 
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First of all, I would need to see how the rest of the season goes, not just 11 games before I can even have this discussion. Second of all, if he becomes a 50 point player, signing him to a $4m, 4 year deal becomes smart business. I doubt that the team will look to give him a 6 year deal. Though again, it depends entirely on what he does for the rest of the year.
Yeah, I agree with your first point. It's depend how he scores and with who.
 
I'd trade him at the deadline to the highest bidder, but I'm sure he'll get an extension

He just screams "player Quinn and Gorton love"
 
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There are plenty of guys every year who you can grab on buy low deals.

Grabber was another we had recently

There are guys you hold on to with every fiber of your being...and guys you sell high while you can. Strome to me is the latter.
 
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First of all, I would need to see how the rest of the season goes, not just 11 games before I can even have this discussion. Second of all, if he becomes a 50 point player, signing him to a $4m, 4 year deal becomes smart business. I doubt that the team will look to give him a 6 year deal. Though again, it depends entirely on what he does for the rest of the year.
Seriously. This conversation changes dramatically if another 40-50 games pass and he's still tracking anywhere near 0.75-1.00PPG.
 
There are plenty of guys every year who you can grab on buy low deals.

Grabber was another we had recently

There are guys you hold on to with every fiber of your being...and guys you sell high while you can. Strome to me is the latter.

Push comes to shove, I think they end up selling high on him --- especially if he can form a 1-2 trade punch with Kreider.

I haven't asked, but I am curious if there's a sense that he's a guy who happens to be an ideal fit for the current system, and that his impact is higher on the Rangers than elsewhere --- not unlike Grabner or even Brassard.
 
Push comes to shove, I think they end up selling high on him --- especially if he can form a 1-2 trade punch with Kreider.

I haven't asked, but I am curious if there's a sense that he's a guy who happens to be an ideal fit for the current system, and that his impact is higher on the Rangers than elsewhere --- not unlike Grabner or even Brassard.
Out of curiosity, do you have a sense in general of what types of players are more likely to succeed in the current system? To me it doesn't appear like the system rewards specialists, maybe on the defensive side but not really the offensive specialists. Hard to say for sure since we haven't seen a ton of different players come through the current system, but Strome seems to fit that kind of mold. A player with a motor that can do a little bit of everything. At the same time I can see him as less valuable to a team looking to address a specific weakness rather than general depth.
 

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