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Player Discussion Ryan Strome

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Strome is a 45-46% faceoff guy FYI.

Hot take: can Namestnikov should be tried at 2C at some point this season? He is a good transition player, which is what that line needs.
 
aufheben said:
Strome is a 45-46% faceoff guy FYI.

Hot take: can Namestnikov should be tried at 2C at some point this season? He is a good transition player, which is what that line needs.
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Kreider is one of the best in that regard and Kaapo can carry the puck over a line so i'm not so sure they "need" that.
 
I don’t think Kreider is enough. Kakko seems much more effective at this stage when the puck is already in the offensive zone. But, just a thought.
 
Strome is another player for whom expectations can have a profound impact.

When viewed as a bottom six player who can fill in on the second line in a pinch, and play center or wing, Strome can be a nice asset to have.

When asked to assume the role as a more permanent second line center, on a team that really needs someone to claim the role, things get a bit dicier.
 
Strome won a huge dzone f/o late. Won the draw clean then cleared the zone and got off

Little Thing like that mean alo

He also made quite a few nice passes one to buch and one to kakko in the 3rd.

Until there is someone clearly better that quinn trusts, hes the guy.
 
The funny thing about Strome is that his story isn’t that far removed from Zibanejad.

Strome went one pick before Zibanejad and there was a time when both guys were in relatively the same range - around 20 goals and 50 points.

But then things have gone two completely different directions since that time.

But Strome isn’t without his abilities and talents. It’s just a matter of where they can be best utilized, consistency, and how much one wants to commit to said abilities and talents.
 
Watching the ott game again tonight and isolating on strome. Im not seeing glaring errors or poor play at all.

Im sorry but this guy knows what hes doing out there. Numerous setups for good scoring chances and the right reads and the right plays at the right time.

Hes smart defensively too. Hea not blazing fast and hes not super flashy.

the lack of points so far doesnt concern me. Kakko is gonna score and CK will eventually as well. that line just needs the first one.

After watching i see what quinn sees. A reliable smart and experienced centerman who usually makes the right play and knows what to do away from the puck.
 
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offdacrossbar said:
Watching the ott game again tonight and isolating on strome. Im not seeing glaring errors or poor play at all.

Im sorry but this guy knows what hes doing out there. Numerous setups for good scoring chances and the right reads and the right plays at the right time.

Hes smart defensively too. Hea not blazing fast and hes not super flashy.

the lack of points so far doesnt concern me. Kakko is gonna score and CK will eventually as well. that line just needs the first one.

After watching i see what quinn sees. A reliable smart and experienced centerman who usually makes the right play and knows what to do away from the puck.
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Yeah, good post man. Watching the game LIVE, I kind of was focused on Strome for some reason. I saw all the same things you said. When he made that nice pass to the middle (I believe to Vlad, ironically enought) Sam didnt even mention the good pass, was focused more on Names missing the chance.
 
But yes, Strome seems to be the clear cut 2C "for now", but probably will take awesome play from whomever wants to dethrone him. Would take everything Strome does AND scoring. Strome can score and am still expecting him to. Only 2 games, not 15. In fact most Rangers havent scored in 2 games. He is not the scrub everyone portrays him as. Honestly, I liken him to Cally in many ways, except speed.
 
I just don’t see the skill to keep up with Kreider and Kakko. The last games feel like 10 years ago but I remember him bungling chances.

I’d honestly just stick Howden there. He has a bit of that bull-in-a-China-shop to him which I think would go well with the other two (even if Howden is both the bull and the China shop). I don’t want a smart reliable 2nd line, I want one that creates some chaos and may actual score a goal or two.

That said I’m not really bothered either, it’s only a few games in.
 
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Strome has been nearly a 0.5 PPG player over his career of more than 400 NHL games. He's been almost 0.6 PPG with us and 1PPG so far this season. It seems fairly safe to see him as a 40-50 points type of guy over a full season.
 
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I love Strome. He needed a change of scenery and now he has 44 points in 74 games which is about .6 PPG.
 
I like the idea of keeping him with Panarin. I don’t think Artemi needs much in terms of a great center to succeed and it helps out Strome
 
Anzi said:
Strome has been nearly a 0.5 PPG player over his career of more than 400 NHL games. He's been almost 0.6 PPG with us and 1PPG so far this season. It seems fairly safe to see him as a 40-50 points type of guy over a full season.
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Why? He hit 28-35 points for 4 straight seasons. Seems highly unlikely that his game is going to take a leap forward at age 26. Maybe he'll crack 40 if he's like glued to Panarin. His SH% as a Ranger has been well over 20%.
 
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Why? He hit 28-35 points for 4 straight seasons. Seems highly unlikely that his game is going to take a leap forward at age 26. Maybe he'll crack 40 if he's like glued to Panarin. His SH% as a Ranger has been well over 20%.
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He's averaging about 35 points extrapolated over 82 games the past 4 seasons so 40 points isn't really that much of an increase. He has also had a 50 point season before so I don't think a 40-50 point range is all that unrealistic. I don't think his high shooting percentages ever since he became a Ranger are a complete fluke. His SH% might regress a bit but I think it'll still be closer to 20% than his career average of 10%. He's not playing the same way that he did on his previous teams. On his other teams he was averaging nearly 2 shots a game. On the Rangers, he's averaging about 1.3 shots per game. He's shooting less but his shots are much higher quality than they have been in the past.

Over his entire career he's pretty much an 0.5 PPG player which is 40 points over 82 games. So if you want to say more 35-45 points instead of 40-50, fine but its not really that big of a difference.
 
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To your first observation - I think it’s just a coincidence, pretty obvious that the true connection is Staal being replaced by Lindgren.

I hope more people are starting to come around about Strome. His sample size of good play is getting larger.​

My reply (already in gdt, but better here)
And larger every game. Getting better? I would think with regular minutes and steady wingers, he just might be even better.
Not sure about you guys, but I value most of what Valiquette says. He isnt some pawn being told what to say. He KNOWS what he is talking about and has been on the Strome bandwagon for some time now.
When that trade was made, ridding ourselves of Spooner......it was more of "happy he is gone" as opposed to what we received in Ryan. He seized the glorious opportunity, while gettiing the hell out of hockey hell.
At best, most people thought it was just a change of scenery thing and what did we have to lose? Correct. But if anyone here actually thought for one minute that we would be getting what we have been from Ryan, then they would be lying. I dont get all the hate for him, we should be THRILLED! He keeps playing like he has, he will be getting a "nice payday" next year, with or without the Rangers, but worse case for everyone is he is traded at deadline and we "coupe" yet another pick or prospect. Its a win, win, win. Okay, my laundry list.

Not speedy? Check.
Not flashy? Double Check
Not a good FO guy? Wrong
Not a good ice awareness player? Wrong
Not a good passer? Wrong.
Not a battler? Wrong.
Not a team player? Wrong
Not good in the LR? Wrong
Selfish? Wrong.

Problem is most here wanna see all the kids play over him, and thing is he is still only 26.......so yeah, lets disperse of him he is useless. :sarcasm:
I personally think he is great for this team, already a vet, older but not old and in a perfect world (which it is not) he becomes the BEST 4th line center in the NHL....... when Lias or Howden demand that "up for grabs" 3C, in which we are assuming that Filip IS...... that 2C.
And if they don't, Ryan is actually not such a bad fallback at 3C. IMHO.
 
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SnowblindNYR said:
Good trade for Gorton. The rare time a player plays his best hockey with the Rangers.
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Might have seen his hockey life drawing to a close. The game has changed and many have already considered him to be a bust at that high of a draft pick. He has been on "very bad teams", and he obviously doesnt have the abusive talent to change and upgrade any bad team. On this team however, he seems to be a really good fit and definitely has upgrade his own play. Good on him, yes, a rare time in which a player comes here and grabs the bull by the horn.
 
My guess is Gorton waits till the deadline to trade him and comes away with a 3rd rounder in 2025.
 
aufheben said:
Why? He hit 28-35 points for 4 straight seasons. Seems highly unlikely that his game is going to take a leap forward at age 26. Maybe he'll crack 40 if he's like glued to Panarin. His SH% as a Ranger has been well over 20%.
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Looking at raw stats with no hindsight, tends to produce false results. And in no way am I charging you with being a pure stat head with no thought to anything else. But the stats do not in any way appreciate line mates, comfort of a player within a coaching staff, franchise or playing style. You are spot on in what you are saying he was. But that may not necessarily be who he is in proper circumstances. Which is what well may be what is being seen.
 
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My guess is Gorton waits till the deadline to trade him and comes away with a 3rd rounder in 2025.
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Here's a take. He continues to do this and is signed to an extension.

Oh, and at this level of play? Much more than a third round pick.

#WeNeverEvaluateGoodPlayers
 
SnowblindNYR said:
Good trade for Gorton. The rare time a player plays his best hockey with the Rangers.
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I wouldn't call it rare. We tend to do well with a certain type of player. Prospal, Prust, Boyle, Stralman, Brassard, Zibanejad, Strome and probably others I'm not thinking of. All of these guys were/are better as Rangers than they were prior to us acquiring them.

Where we usually fail is with the expensive, big name acquisitions, but to be fair, most teams fail with those. We just happen to do it more than most other teams, historically.

A mix of good drafting and bargain shopping can replace the need for the high-priced acquisitions, but our issue has always been getting elite talent. Lindros, Bure, Jagr, Gaborik, Nash, Richards, St. Louis. They were all acquired via free agency or trades, with varying levels of success, but none of them lasted long.

Hopefully Panarin can maintain his level of play for a long time and Kakko and can become the elite player we all hope him to be.
 
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