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Player Discussion Ryan McDonagh

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Bleed Ranger Blue said:
The force feeding of Boyle and now Yandle has really stopped McDonaghs offensive development in its tracks
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I don't think that's really a bad thing. But I don't think AV is paring our D-men properly. Yandle and Boyle are both offensively skilled d-men and semi-ok defensively skilled D-men. Whereas, Girardi and Mac are quite the opposite. I feel AV should split the talent. Maybe do the paring like:

1. Mac and Yandle
2. Giraridi and Boyle
3. Stall and Kline

Im not suggesting Mac cant play offense, I in fact, think he can do it all, and do it all way better then most, but you gotta play the personnel to their strength and put them is situations that will help the team win.

I also think Yandle and Boyle should be paired up on the PP, with Boyle running it. But I'm sure that wont be the most popular idea on here.
 
xChrisTilDeathx said:
I don't think that's really a bad thing. But I don't think AV is paring our D-men properly. Yandle and Boyle are both offensively skilled d-men and semi-ok defensively skilled D-men. Whereas, Girardi and Mac are quite the opposite. I feel AV should split the talent. Maybe do the paring like:

1. Mac and Yandle
2. Giraridi and Boyle
3. Stall and Kline

Im not suggesting Mac cant play offense, I in fact, think he can do it all, and do it all way better then most, but you gotta play the personnel to their strength and put them is situations that will help the team win.

I also think Yandle and Boyle should be paired up on the PP, with Boyle running it. But I'm sure that wont be the most popular idea on here.
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We all know ncdonagh-girardi isn't working..

We should go
yandle-mcdonagh
Staal-girardi
Boyle-klein
 
xChrisTilDeathx said:
I don't think that's really a bad thing. But I don't think AV is paring our D-men properly. Yandle and Boyle are both offensively skilled d-men and semi-ok defensively skilled D-men. Whereas, Girardi and Mac are quite the opposite. I feel AV should split the talent. Maybe do the paring like:

1. Mac and Yandle
2. Giraridi and Boyle
3. Stall and Kline

Im not suggesting Mac cant play offense, I in fact, think he can do it all, and do it all way better then most, but you gotta play the personnel to their strength and put them is situations that will help the team win.

I also think Yandle and Boyle should be paired up on the PP, with Boyle running it. But I'm sure that wont be the most popular idea on here.
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AV and Ulf have kept Yandle away from first line forwards like the plague thus far - and he has STILL struggled. That goes beyond his partner, so I dont think its the best idea to give him more ES minutes against tougher competition.
 
Bleed Ranger Blue said:
AV and Ulf have kept Yandle away from first line forwards like the plague thus far - and he has STILL struggled. That goes beyond his partner, so I dont think its the best idea to give him more ES minutes against tougher competition.
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Solid point, so if not Yandle what about Bolye, or klien? I feel like each player has strengths and weakness and mac could pick up w/e slack the other d-man he's pared up with lacks. I also, don't think it's too much to ask of him either. Mac, Girardi, and Staal all make top tier money so pairing them up with other d-men who have a more solid offensive game isn't that far fetched.

On a side note, isn't it weird we're considering Klien as an offense threat? If you would of asked me a year ago what his strengths were, i would of never have said he had a heavy shot and a real nose for the puck. lol
 
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The one (only) thing that gives me some hope is that the Rangers have played 1 game all season that was really as close to a "must win" as they've had (6-5 game vs NYI) and McDonagh was a beast in that game.

Maybe when the games start to matter he'll play like that? I don't know, but at least hes shown that its still there.
 
The two biggest problems are things that have been evident to me this entire season and still persist, holding McD back:


1. His conditioning hasn't been up to his usual level all season.
2. He's trying to do too much (carrying the puck up ice himself like he's bobby orr, over committing on defense, forcing passes that aren't there) most likely in response to being named captain.
 
Glen Sathers Cigar said:
The two biggest problems are things that have been evident to me this entire season and still persist, holding McD back:


1. His conditioning hasn't been up to his usual level all season.
2. He's trying to do too much (carrying the puck up ice himself like he's bobby orr, over committing on defense, forcing passes that aren't there) most likely in response to being named captain.
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Should've been Staal, IMO. I guess there was still uncertainty over whether or not he'd be back long-term, though.
 
Glen Sathers Cigar said:
The two biggest problems are things that have been evident to me this entire season and still persist, holding McD back:


1. His conditioning hasn't been up to his usual level all season.
2. He's trying to do too much (carrying the puck up ice himself like he's bobby orr, over committing on defense, forcing passes that aren't there) most likely in response to being named captain.
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I really don't see any of this, the only thing i can say i see is that he may be playing too safe, too conservative. I kinda see kreider doing the same thing. I'm not sure it its AV's influence or not but when he decides to take risks and play the low % plays he usually shines. (on offense) when he does it on D he usually turns it over in our own zone
 
Mcdonagh needs to get back to a positioning/physical game. Way to much stick waving of late with no regard for where he is positionally. Once he starts getting more physical I think his game will come around.
 
Miller Time NYR said:
Mcdonagh needs to get back to a positioning/physical game. Way to much stick waving of late with no regard for where he is positionally. Once he starts getting more physical I think his game will come around.
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I think that's something McDonagh and Av and ulf are trying to add to his game.. U watch guys like Shea weber and ryan suter they're great with there sticks and physicality. Staal is great at the stick work but his physicality has declined with the injuries. McDonagh is probably trying to add this to his game but doesn't try it in important games hence why he's played better in must win games.. Hopefully I'm right and he can turn it on in the playoffs
 
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