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Player Discussion Ryan McDonagh

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True Blue said:
Unfortunately, that is exactly what I am fearing and have feared since they named him Captain.

Someone like Staal or Girardi could have handled it better.
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that's my fear too...

Unfortunately if it's injury, we're not going to find out until the end of the season, so I wouldn't hold your breath, lol
 
theres got to be something wrong with McD

He just doesn't seem to be able to catch guys like he used to. The explosive skating seems to be lacking etc

I cannot imagine how that aspect of his game would be the result of wearing the C. mental mistakes or something ya but physical ?
 
NYRKindms said:
I cannot imagine how that aspect of his game would be the result of wearing the C. mental mistakes or something ya but physical ?
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Look at Leetch's play with the C and then without. Some thrive wearing that letter and some do not.
 
True Blue said:
Look at Leetch's play with the C and then without. Some thrive wearing that letter and some do not.
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Different person in a different era. The only comparisons are the team and them both playing d.

I really doubt the letter has anything to do with this.
 
Hopefully Lundqvist's injury will be the wake up call that McDonagh needs and he'll finally start to play better defensively. Now he and the rest of the team can't rely on Hank to bail them out when they make mistakes.
 
First of all Leetch was into his 10th season as an NHLer.
Secondly he had a sheety team behind him !
I am sooooooooo tired of hearing how bad Leetch was as a captain.
His years as a captain include years of him aging and his team sucking arse.
Now, Mcdonagh and Leetch play totally different types of games,
so i wish people would just stop comparing them.
That silly letter matters only to fans, the players KNOW who their leaders are and I am sure the locker room matters 100% more than some **** letter stitched on the uniform.
McDonagh has NOT had a good year at all, I had hopes of a norris and maybe a conn smythe, but hockey is like life, who knows.
However he has not been and is not a BAD player !!
Stats my arse !
This fella is here to stay and is a HUGE part of this teams future and present.
Not as good as I would have thought but no where near as bad as this thread makes out.
I am no apologist but come on, seriously.
 
Nyrfan25 said:
First of all Leetch was into his 10th season as an NHLer.
Secondly he had a sheety team behind him !
I am sooooooooo tired of hearing how bad Leetch was as a captain.
His years as a captain include years of him aging and his team sucking arse.
Now, Mcdonagh and Leetch play totally different types of games,
so i wish people would just stop comparing them.
That silly letter matters only to fans, the players KNOW who their leaders are and I am sure the locker room matters 100% more than some **** letter stitched on the uniform.
McDonagh has NOT had a good year at all, I had hopes of a norris and maybe a conn smythe, but hockey is like life, who knows.
However he has not been and is not a BAD player !!
Stats my arse !
This fella is here to stay and is a HUGE part of this teams future and present.
Not as good as I would have thought but no where near as bad as this thread makes out.
I am no apologist but come on, seriously.
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Yeah this guy gets it.

I know I'm disappointed that McDonagh isn't having the kind of season I think he can have, but he's not playing terribly despite the tone of this thread. I think it's natural to think that someone is "playing like crap" if they're not playing up to their potential, but comparing McDonagh to most other D's in the league and he's still playing good hockey.

C has nothing to do with it, he actually played similarly to this at the start of last year as well but managed to find the right groove and killed it the rest of the season. This year he had a pretty significant injury to recover from and hasn't found his comfort zone, and might not for the rest of the year. All that said, he's still a good player
 
Nyrfan25 said:
First of all Leetch was into his 10th season as an NHLer.
Secondly he had a sheety team behind him !
I am sooooooooo tired of hearing how bad Leetch was as a captain.
His years as a captain include years of him aging and his team sucking arse.
Now, Mcdonagh and Leetch play totally different types of games,
so i wish people would just stop comparing them.
That silly letter matters only to fans, the players KNOW who their leaders are and I am sure the locker room matters 100% more than some **** letter stitched on the uniform.
McDonagh has NOT had a good year at all, I had hopes of a norris and maybe a conn smythe, but hockey is like life, who knows.
However he has not been and is not a BAD player !!
Stats my arse !
This fella is here to stay and is a HUGE part of this teams future and present.
Not as good as I would have thought but no where near as bad as this thread makes out.
I am no apologist but come on, seriously.
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This post is spot on.
 
haveandare said:
Different person in a different era. The only comparisons are the team and them both playing d.

I really doubt the letter has anything to do with this.
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The era has little to do with feeling the weight of the letter. The comparison is that Leetch did not handle being Captain well. Is MCD? Don't know. But feeling the pressure of the letter certainly is viable. The reality is that some players make for better sergeants than captains. Maybe this is the case with MCD. Maybe not.
 
True Blue said:
The era has little to do with feeling the weight of the letter. The comparison is that Leetch did not handle being Captain well. Is MCD? Don't know. But feeling the pressure of the letter certainly is viable. The reality is that some players make for better sergeants than captains. Maybe this is the case with MCD. Maybe not.
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Maybe the weight of two shoulder injuries in the past 8 months is what's the issue. But lets blame something intangible like a letter on a jersey.
 
Let's not get carried away now. Let's be honest and say he's been a little overrated in his time here. He is not a norris trophy defenseman. Wasn't last year and is not this year. Will he be in the future? Maybe, he certainly has the tools to be. That said I believe McDonaugh is a solid B+ first pairing defenseman is a number one on our team but no Drew Doughty or Suter by any stretch.
 
MidnightRanger said:
Let's not get carried away now. Let's be honest and say he's been a little overrated in his time here. He is not a norris trophy defenseman. Wasn't last year and is not this year. Will he be in the future? Maybe, he certainly has the tools to be. That said I believe McDonaugh is a solid B+ first pairing defenseman is a number one on our team but no Drew Doughty or Suter by any stretch.
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McD has the ability to be just as good as Suter or Doughty. He's looked bad the majority of this season, but he was always a beast defensively, and his offensive game blossomed last year. It'd be one thing if he played as bad as he has for the most this season in prior years, but he never did.

Who knows what's up with him this year.
 
MidnightRanger said:
Let's not get carried away now. Let's be honest and say he's been a little overrated in his time here. He is not a norris trophy defenseman. Wasn't last year and is not this year. Will he be in the future? Maybe, he certainly has the tools to be. That said I believe McDonaugh is a solid B+ first pairing defenseman is a number one on our team but no Drew Doughty or Suter by any stretch.
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You're underrating McDonagh here.

He played close to Norris level last year, and has all of tools and ability to do it again.

And Suter is the most overrated defenseman in the game.
 
I'm not so interested in comparisons. I just want him to be as good as Ryan McDonagh can be. He looked like he was in that vicinity at least today.
 
I remember McDonagh completely outshining Suter against the best the world has to offer. He's not any worse than Suter when he's playing his best.
 
Levitate said:
Yeah this guy gets it.

I know I'm disappointed that McDonagh isn't having the kind of season I think he can have, but he's not playing terribly despite the tone of this thread. I think it's natural to think that someone is "playing like crap" if they're not playing up to their potential, but comparing McDonagh to most other D's in the league and he's still playing good hockey.

C has nothing to do with it, he actually played similarly to this at the start of last year as well but managed to find the right groove and killed it the rest of the season. This year he had a pretty significant injury to recover from and hasn't found his comfort zone, and might not for the rest of the year. All that said, he's still a good player
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I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you on McDonagh's play. McDonagh's had a very mediocre season, not just for his game. He's looked slow he's made just stupid decisions, he's totally lost his man, he's failed to tie his man up, he's just had an overall bad season defensively. Yes, he's had good games, but there have been waaaay too many games where you honestly wonder if he's hurt, because he isn't able to catch up to his man the way he would in years past. Something is just off with McDonagh. Where McD makes a stupid pass that gets intercepted, you might think that's a mental thing, but when he fails to tie up his man or can't catch up to a breaking attacker, those seem more like physical errors. I really don't know what it is, but you can't overlook how badly he's played for so much of this season.

With regards to last season, you're talking about a totally different system, so it makes sense he'd have screwups, but it just doesn't apply here.
 
I think he's been playing injured. His conditioning has not been the same. He lacks that sort of spark and recovery speed he had last year. I don't think the C is the problem. He is just a young player learning to adjust to the fact that maybe he is great and that means bringing your A game year after year after years or people talk.
 
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