Prospect Info: Ryan Johnson, D, 2019 #31 overall: Signed, Rochester (AHL), Recalled 12/5/24

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Roch has done well preparing prospects for the national league. If Johnson thinks there's a path, he signs a PTO and gets a taste of professional playoff hockey heading into the offseason. If not, he can wait until August and choose his own path. Most teams will have their rosters set by then. He won't be gifted a spot, he needs to earn it.

He was one goal away from a championship. Let the kid come around on his own terms.
 
chad needs to stick to analysis and stay out of the insider business. his track record is not great.
He had the Tage and Cozens extensions before anyone locally or nationally.

His track record isn't great with analysis either :)
He‘s been telling you that Olofsson is bad for years. That Bryson is terrible and that Joker is crap.

Now people catch up after forever and still shit on the guy who was on it from the start.
 
I would think that qualifies as something that would not be positive, per Adams' comments.

I mean if Adams was like "hey, want to come over and get a game in?" and Johnson's camp goes "Yea that sounds good, let us talk about it a bit and we'll get back to you". I could see adams walking away thinking, "well that went well, they seemed receptive." I have used that move multiple times in negotiations when I want the conversation to end but it won't if I just say no flat out.

Lets pretend that didn't even happen and it went poorly. I still don't think Adams is the type to come out and say "well we had a meeting with them, and it did not go well, he likely isn't signing with us".

There are lots of reasons why Adams could have thought it went well or just not wanted to be completely open with how it went.

The words that stuck out with me from Adam's Sabres Live interview was "we told him where we thought he was" with regard to his development. I interpret that as there isn't agreement on his development.
 
He had the Tage and Cozens extensions before anyone locally or nationally.


He‘s been telling you that Olofsson is bad for years. That Bryson is terrible and that Joker is crap.

Now people catch up after forever and still shit on the guy who was on it from the start.
What about his takes about Mitts, Asplund and Comrie?
 
He had the Tage and Cozens extensions before anyone locally or nationally.


He‘s been telling you that Olofsson is bad for years. That Bryson is terrible and that Joker is crap.

Now people catch up after forever and still shit on the guy who was on it from the start.

Also wanted to run Mitts over with a truck and was part of heaping on Dahlin early last year. Everyone has a few hits and a few misses.
 
Another point, perhaps only briefly mentioned, or certainly not dwelled on, is Minnesota lost.

My collegiate days are decades ago, but it's a very real possibility that the disappointment of being so close to a national championship and losing was simply so deflating it was demotivating / paralyzing.

My final collegiate performance wasn't my best. And I knew it. And it made me think about all I could have done differently in the prior years. And I wasn't even that good of an athlete (certainly was a comparably better student than athlete in the very real spirit of a student-athlete). But I was done competing.

In fact, reflecting now (and at other times in the past decades), with the hindsight of my life unfolding since then, I could have moved my fulcrum between student and athlete more towards athlete and not really "suffered" academically.

Johnson knows he'll have his shot with an NHL club. He may just literally want a break, even if he intends to sign with BUF. He spent 4 full years of a collegiate career at UM. He may want to stay on campus and graduate in 7-8 weeks (even if he's not eligible to graduate, I have no idea) because being on campus will help him process the oh-so-close-but-we-lost rather than jumping ship and being in a completely different environment, a newbie, and essentially a mercenary.

There may be no animus toward BUF and/or their vision for where they want him to go (Roc).

Speculating above, obviously, but I get it if any of that is in play.
 
Guy got multiple things before local or national media including the Reinhart trade. He’s one of the best we have here. Certainly better than the old timers.

i remember him having heponiemi in the reinhart deal and elvenes in the eichel deal. and he wasn't early on either that i remember. but if you have receipts i'm happy to be wrong. my memory may be failing me.

and i agree, the old timers are no better. although i like lebrun.
 
i remember him having heponiemi in the reinhart deal and elvenes in the eichel deal. and he wasn't early on either that i remember. but if you have receipts i'm happy to be wrong. my memory may be failing me.

and i agree, the old timers are no better. although i like lebrun.

Locally, he gets more hints than any of the "regular" folks who follow the team. I appreciate what he does and I'm sure some of what he gets wind of doesn't go exactly as it is presented to him because of when the information comes out. That said, no one is always 100% correct and takes do evolve as circumstances change.
 
Also wanted to run Mitts over with a truck and was part of heaping on Dahlin early last year. Everyone has a few hits and a few misses.
I like Chad’s content, mainly his podcast. I don’t take him super seriously because he is really just a super fan that makes decent content for us with his free time. He definitely has a couple connections to the organization too since he did kind of break some different things.

Tbh I prefer the expected Buffalo stuff over anything on WGR or put out by some of the other people who cover the team for a living.
 
Really starting to hate these NCAA draftee rules..

it’s no different than other players drsfted
NCAA players are also at the disadvantage compared to their peers. Excluding Russians, drafted players with rights expiring have their rights expire June 30th, giving them the opportunity to sign with a team when free agency opens. NCAA players have to wait until mid-August

no they are not.
Four years of exclusive player rights, same as for everyone else that the NHL has a transfer agreement. The only place it is 2 years is the CHL. Russia has no transfer agreement so there is no expiration of drafted player rights.

yep..it’s 4 yrs…..for most college players.

CHL players at 18 dont sign, they re-enter the draft thrn enter UFA after 4 years
europe it’s 4 years
college kids it generally till they graduate which is 4 years.
The NCAA is much more deeply flawed than just NHL team rights to players. The whole amateurs can't make money system needs an overhaul.

they can get money now.

the nhl could do something that allows deferred contract signing on college players
Can someone explain how signing this year and playing a game would get Johnson to RFA quicker?

If he waits until summer he is 22 and only has to sign a 2 year ELC? Which would be the same as burning a year?

likr Levi, playing a game burns first year which has ELC end a year earlier and you get to second contract.
In Portillo's case, seeing the treatment that Levi has gotten from the team, I don't really think it was that unreasonable for him to decide he was better off somewhere else than trying to compete with the anointed heir apparent.

In Johnson's case, if the Sabres lose out on him because they refused to let him burn the ELC year, well that's on them.

to be fair…Portillo didn’t do much when Levi was acquired. He just played back up one yr at Michigan.
why should he be threatened by another college goalie is beyond me.

Can someone explain to me the downside to letting him burn a year that is so severe it's worth just letting him walk for what is essentially the first pick of the third round? Unless they are convinced he has no chance of being an NHL player it makes no sense whatsoever.


it would fall at 31 of the 2nd round. Flyers also have a ncaa no sign from 2018 draft who would also become a 2nd round pick. If thst happens the pick would fall between the conf final losers and the cup final teams.

because of covid, he does have another year of college left. He could opt to return. That would just delay the pick to 2025 if Buffalo refuses to sign him…maybe for es them to trade him to where he wants to go.

since his team went to the frozen finale he likely could only get one game in no matter what. If minnesota was eliminated in the opening weekend things might be different.

I think they wanted a max contract like Levi got while buffalo might have said ATO and then ELC And not max salary/ bonuses.

My thoughts— personally him vs a late 2nd…a late 2nd has trade value next year while Johnson might not be viewed as a 2nd round trade value across the league even though his chance of success is probably better than a player picked at 61. He knows that and might say I’m not tutning pro delaying them getting that trade chip maybe trying to force a trade. If he says I’m turning pro and not signing with buffalo. Buffalo atvthe draft knows they have this 2nd as a trade chip in a deal of picks or player trades.
 
His rights being traded wouldn't change anything about his ability to go to FA though.

Also anybody trading for his rights would have to offer up at least a 2nd rnd pick to make it worthwhile for the sabres. So even if the sabres knew he wasn't signing all along, doubtful they could find a buyer to give more value than just letting him walk.

Somebody find GMTM. He'll do it. Even though he won't sign for him either.
 
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yep..it’s 4 yrs…..for most college players.

CHL players at 18 dont sign, they re-enter the draft thrn enter UFA after 4 years
europe it’s 4 years
college kids it generally till they graduate which is 4 years.

If a draft eligible player from the CHL is not signed after 2 years, he reenters the draft. It isn't at unsigned at 18, it's within 2 years of being selected, including if they are older than 18 when selected. All of the European leagues but Russia is a 4-year span when rights are held. There are also circumstances when a 5th year is applicable as was pointed out above by @jfb392 .
 
If a draft eligible player from the CHL is not signed after 2 years, he reenters the draft. It isn't at unsigned at 18, it's within 2 years of being selected, including if they are older than 18 when selected. All of the European leagues but Russia is a 4-year span when rights are held. There are also circumstances when a 5th year is applicable as was pointed out above by @jfb392 .

yes…i know that.
 
Hope this gets resolved soon. I've watched a lot of Minnesota games over the past few seasons and I see his ceiling as a potential solid, NHL, puck moving 2nd or 3rd pairing player. So I don't think it will rock the franchise, regardless of which way it goes.
 
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Im going to assume hes signing with Los Angeles. At least we got a 2nd and a 3rd back for our college free agents this time.

Good luck RyJo on your depth defenseman career.
 
He had the Tage and Cozens extensions before anyone locally or nationally.


He‘s been telling you that Olofsson is bad for years. That Bryson is terrible and that Joker is crap.

Now people catch up after forever and still shit on the guy who was on it from the start.
getting those 3 right deserves hardly a trophy to his countless charts he posted without a context to prove a point that doesn't exist.
 
He had the Tage and Cozens extensions before anyone locally or nationally.


He‘s been telling you that Olofsson is bad for years. That Bryson is terrible and that Joker is crap.

Now people catch up after forever and still shit on the guy who was on it from the start.
Opinions are insider info?

getting those 3 right deserves hardly a trophy to his countless charts he posted without a context to prove a point that doesn't exist.
Amen. Chad is such a disingenuous agenda pusher.
 
The trio of Chad/Anthony/Kevin are the best follows on Sabres twitter, surprised by all the sour grapes in here. Chad is pretty much the only person online who seems to get any inside info from the Sabres org these days
 
The trio of Chad/Anthony/Kevin are the best follows on Sabres twitter, surprised by all the sour grapes in here. Chad is pretty much the only person online who seems to get any inside info from the Sabres org these days

Yeah, I've had solid interactions with all of 'em. I appreciate that they're trying to shake up the terrible coverage of the team done by the ensconced press folks - it's gotten better with Fairburn and Yerdon and a bit of Lance - but there are some times when Twitter does echo chamber things, just like in here. *shrug* And we all get things right and we get things wrong. I suppose it's how we deal with it afterward - like are people deleting tweets or are they retweeting themselves with commentary about what they were wrong on? I know those guys and Sabres twitter in general are much more likely to make amends on things they were wrong about than say, Mikey or Hammy.

Also, don't forget Sabremetrix, that's another interesting follower on the bird app.
 
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