As fun as it would be to see him on broadway next season I agree. Best to bring him over in 2020-2021. Ley him play another year in the KHL unless he really really wants to come north america.
RW Vitaly Kravtsov - Traktor Chelyabinsk, KHL (2018, 9th, NYR)
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The Crypto Guy
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He's already made it very clear he does, which is rare for a player to say while under contract in the KHL. He will be here.
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If I remember correctly he was leading the team (or at least tied for it) in scoring before leaving for the World Juniors. Since the tournament has ended he has not really been doing much. If I had to guess it's a lingering injury
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He left playing pretty much 1st line minutes and came back to the 3rd line because Traktor finally has a relatively healthy lineup.
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I think they’re just easing him back in, he had an injury during the WJC as well so it makes sense if he’s still a little hurt
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Kravtsov actually wanted to come over this year but NYR thought he needed one more year in the KHL
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Plus the whole contract thing he couldn't get out of.
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They could always let him attend training camp after signing his ELC, and loan him out next season to Traktor, if he doesn't earn a spot on the team. I think his contract would slide, if he was loaned out. Its probably best to let him get a full preseason with Traktor than to loan him there two months into their season.
Bottom line is he may very well be the most talented offensive forward the Rangers have drafted since Kovalev.
Fans very often get too caught up in every detail of a prospect's season. He has already exhibited an extremely high-end skill set in enough situations that have him justifying his draft position.
The Rangers will do what is best for him and his future on the team in NY. I truly believe management has decided to build a long-term winner the right way. They just need some luck with the lottery system for once...and of course making the right picks, with a home run or two thrown in.
It would be quite disgusting if the Kings, Hawks or Devils ended up with a better pick this year. Kings and Hawks don't deserve it and the Devils "won" the lottery 2 seasons ago...to go along with their other no 1 Taylor Hall...
Fans very often get too caught up in every detail of a prospect's season. He has already exhibited an extremely high-end skill set in enough situations that have him justifying his draft position.
The Rangers will do what is best for him and his future on the team in NY. I truly believe management has decided to build a long-term winner the right way. They just need some luck with the lottery system for once...and of course making the right picks, with a home run or two thrown in.
It would be quite disgusting if the Kings, Hawks or Devils ended up with a better pick this year. Kings and Hawks don't deserve it and the Devils "won" the lottery 2 seasons ago...to go along with their other no 1 Taylor Hall...
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False. His ELC is not slide eligible, under any circumstance.
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He is not touching Cherepanov talent-wise.
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He had a goal and an assist today, which gives him 20 points in 43 games. .5PPG would be a very respectable season.
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Yea, because just 20 points as a 19 year old in the KHL isn't respectable
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Yea, because just 20 points as a 19 year old in the KHL isn't respectable
Contributes more in his D+1 than Tarasenko, Panarin and Kaprizov.
I have an eerie feeling the Devils win the lottery again...
Rangers really are losers...on the ice, in the front office with Sather and the most evil owner in sports in Dolan (just look at the Knicks) and the crap luck they have in lottery balls.
Hell, they were truly deserving of a top 3 pick in the Crosby sweepstakes and ended up with the 15th pick- which they eventually traded up to 12th to pick Staal.
Staal has been a real good, honest player for the Rangers for many years, but to think how life would have been different if they had ended up with Crosby...
Rip, talent-wise Cherepanov was probably better. But as prospects, i might like Kravtsov more. Could be the new shiny toy syndrome on my part. But a 6’4 winger that can skate and has immense skill is something that doesnt come around often
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Had seen both for many years. Woulda bet my arm that Cherepanov would've become one of the best wingers in the world. He was killing it at all levels. Not so sure about Kravtsov. Many things including a right coaching must be considered to measure his chances for success.
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Why did the contribution updates stop? Sure was fun being ridiculed in December for saying numbers are very favorable to Kravtsov at that point and no updates since?
Edit: Just to explain it a bit to sound less bitter, by no means are his numbers bad now which makes their absence in this thread ever weirder. If anything, it just puts him in proper context right now rather than being 10 points above everyone else as it was back then.
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Even with your edit you just sound incredibly salty lol and I was only checking in here for an update haha.
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I think @SoundAndFury is right. Kravtsov is overrated in reputation among fans here, and I say that as a big fan of his game. If you rate him properly, he's a very good player. If you think he's a for-sure star or likely star, you are overrating him. Certain Ranger fans have taken it upon themselves to give the fan-base a bad reputation in the prospect section where they think that they need to win a 2018 draft contest. According to them, all the Rangers first round picks are future stars, and all they perceive as competition need to be criticized. Look at how much they've hated on the Islanders prospects.
First post draft season:
Kravtsov: 20 points in 44 games
Tarasenko: 19 in 42
Kuznetsov: 32 in 44
Panarin: 21 in 40
Buchnevich: 18 in 40
Kaprizov: 27 in 53
Kravtsov's production is in-line with some of the recent Russian forwards in their first post-draft KHL season. At the same time, his production is closer to the bottom of that group of players, and he's a late birthday, so he was one of the older players in that first post draft year. He's had a respectable season, but he was drafted 9th. Less shouldn't be expected of him. He had a good WJC where he did play out of position and with an injury, but he wasn't even the best player on his line. If you consider the factors that might've hurt his performance, it was respectable, but it wasn't great.
I don't see why his stock would've risen since the draft, unless its relative to other players and someone believes the top picks in this draft have been awful and slipped below Kravtsov's respectable season. Kravtsov is not a sure-fire star or even likely star. When has he ever shown that? Never. Being a "skilled Russian winger" who was drafted high doesn't mean you can project him to be a PPG player.
These people who overrate him completely disrespect all the players that have come before him. They brushed off the comparisons to Buchnevich, as if it wasn't even close. What reason is there to believe it wouldn't be close? Anything other than draft position? He doesn't even come close to Cherepanov who was one of the best Russian prospects of the modern era.
I said it before my team picked Kravtsov, and I'll say it again after we did. If you expect this guy to be a future star, you are overrating him. If you think he is likely to be a first liner with a ceiling of a star, if he maximizes his development, I think thats a fair assessment of his game.
First post draft season:
Kravtsov: 20 points in 44 games
Tarasenko: 19 in 42
Kuznetsov: 32 in 44
Panarin: 21 in 40
Buchnevich: 18 in 40
Kaprizov: 27 in 53
Kravtsov's production is in-line with some of the recent Russian forwards in their first post-draft KHL season. At the same time, his production is closer to the bottom of that group of players, and he's a late birthday, so he was one of the older players in that first post draft year. He's had a respectable season, but he was drafted 9th. Less shouldn't be expected of him. He had a good WJC where he did play out of position and with an injury, but he wasn't even the best player on his line. If you consider the factors that might've hurt his performance, it was respectable, but it wasn't great.
I don't see why his stock would've risen since the draft, unless its relative to other players and someone believes the top picks in this draft have been awful and slipped below Kravtsov's respectable season. Kravtsov is not a sure-fire star or even likely star. When has he ever shown that? Never. Being a "skilled Russian winger" who was drafted high doesn't mean you can project him to be a PPG player.
These people who overrate him completely disrespect all the players that have come before him. They brushed off the comparisons to Buchnevich, as if it wasn't even close. What reason is there to believe it wouldn't be close? Anything other than draft position? He doesn't even come close to Cherepanov who was one of the best Russian prospects of the modern era.
I said it before my team picked Kravtsov, and I'll say it again after we did. If you expect this guy to be a future star, you are overrating him. If you think he is likely to be a first liner with a ceiling of a star, if he maximizes his development, I think thats a fair assessment of his game.
Would you say he is a better prospect than Chytil? I know he has shown inconsistencies but I love Chytil's game and his ceiling. If Kravtsov can match that or be even better I am sure many Ranger fans will be very happy 2-3 years down the road.
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