RW Tyler Boucher - Belleville Senators, AHL (2021, 10th, OTT)

[hockey20000]

hows he doing so far this year? i wasn't a fan of this pick tbh.

 

[ryan callahan]

I see Ottawa fans are very insecure about their team's selections .

 

[Sticktape]

The man was drafted like 90 days ago people.

 

[Dominance]

The man was drafted like 90 days ago people.

And only like 90 slots too high

 

[Korpse]

I see Ottawa fans are very insecure about their team's selections .

That’s an odd take away from this thread. Speaking of insecure, what’s with fans of a select few fan bases repeatedly showing up in the prospect thread of another teams with the sole purpose criticizing those players? Wonder what that’s all about.

 

[Random Comment]

Stanley Cup finalists don't tend to have strong young cores while teams who finish bottom 3 in 3 out of 4 seasons tend to. Has nothing to do with drafting or management. I agree with you that the Sens are great drafters outside the 1st round, but in the 1st round they're pretty average if not below average. I don't think they've drafted an elite player yet unless Sanderson turns into one. So in my book the Sens and the Habs aren't that far from each other yet.

Stanley cup finalists also tend to pick Kotkaniemi’s at 3rd overall when Tkachuk’s are the obvious pick

 

[Tkachuckycheese]

I see Ottawa fans are very insecure about their team's selections .

Do you really wanna talk about insecurities? Who's the player the Habs drafted? You got nothing to comment about.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

Its always fun how intense these discussions are right after the draft, and then half of the voices slowly disappear... we will see which half it is in this case, but theres certainly a pattern with Sens picks.

 

[ryan callahan]

Do you really wanna talk about insecurities? Who's the player the Habs drafted? You got nothing to comment about.

lmao Mailloux is a much better prospect than Boucher and you know it.

 

[Korpse]

lmao Mailloux is a much better prospect than Boucher and you know it.

regardless of how you feel about either player. lmao

 

[Tkachuckycheese]

lmao Mailloux is a much better prospect than Boucher and you know it.

Yikes! I know you are a Habs fan and you have to say good things about their players. But Yikes! I guess you fully support what he did to that women. Let's cheer on shitty men and support them!!!!

 

[Tkachuckycheese]

anyways hope Boucher turns out and can be the player the Sens hope he can be for them in the future.

 

[Doc5]

Based on the sens drafting record, I’d bet that Boucher becomes another solid addition to their young core

 

[Blacephalon]

5 years of reconstruction is starting to do a lot.

By wasting Byram, Heinola and Sillinger, Ottawa has lost 2-3 years of reconstruction.

You can do this excursive with basically any team in the league

 

[Blacephalon]

I see Ottawa fans are very insecure about their team's selections .

Huh? The Sens are one of the best drafting teams in the league in past years while Montreal is one of the worst. You should be more concerned about your own team

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

The troll is Melnyk and his gang. They are the ones making stupid decisions like giving Matt Duchene an unprotected 1st round and not signing Duchene 1 year later or selecting players who have had injury issues and haven't played competitively.

A stingy owner who spends as little money as possible and a badly placed arena which explains the very low attendance, one of the worst in the league.

I am sorry to see Ottawa in such a situation. Truly.

But to show my respect, I will never criticize anything about Ottawa again and when the right choices are made, I will say so.

Anyway I have made the tour of my current opinion. Many share it.

As a Senators fan you're not that far off the mark. Ottawa does have a cheap owner and a b-rate management team that has already made dreadful, almost amateur lapses in judgement.

Is there any hockey fan that envies what Ottawa has in the Melnyk/Dorion duo? I doubt it.

I like the way Boucher plays but I think Ottawa still lacked skill so drafting Sillinger would have looked better for the outlook.

But Boucher does bring a very unique skill and mindset. Players like Tkachuk and Sillinger, no one likes playing them. If the Senators insulate these two with high end skill they will be a very well rounded hockey team. They have a good basis for the skill in Stutzle, Batherson, Chabot, Sanderson and will likely have top 5/10 picks in the next two very good top end drafts. Ottawa outlook is pretty rosy.

As for management I think Melnyk is cunning enough to get rid of Dorion when the treasure chest is built. That's more than half the battle.

 

[Dominance]

Boucher: 6’1”, 205, 2P in 12 NCAA GP

Sillinger: 6’0”, 190, 8P in 13 NHL GP

Just a classic case of a team outsmarting itself.

 

[HSF]

Boucher: 6’1”, 205, 2P in 12 NCAA GP

Sillinger: 6’0”, 190, 8P in 13 NHL GP

Just a classic case of a team outsmarting itself.

its still really early

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Boucher: 6’1”, 205, 2P in 12 NCAA GP

Sillinger: 6’0”, 190, 8P in 13 NHL GP

Just a classic case of a team outsmarting itself.

No reason to dump on Boucher to compliment Sillinger.

Boucher played very little last season after being injured for most of the season, so there’s an adjustment period with that.

And then there’s also that the team sucks, but has a lot of older forwards that are good enough that they demand playing time. Boucher is not a fixture in the top six. I’m pretty sure he’s been mostly in the bottom six, and probably very little PP time.

He’s also a player that impacts the game in more ways than scoring, so only using raw totals is a bad way to measure his impact.

He’s probably not going to justify being the 10th pick, but I think he’ll still have a good career eventually. He wasn’t ever likely to be much less than a two year player and more likely a three year player. Check back at the end of the season to see if he starts elevating himself into next season. Most freshman struggle early on in college hockey. It’s a higher level of hockey than they’ve ever played. This is nothing new.

Can everyone please keep this thread about Boucher? If people want to talk about the Senators drafting strategies, there are other places to talk about that.

 

[Dominance]

No reason to dump on Boucher to compliment Sillinger.

Boucher played very little last season after being injured for most of the season, so there’s an adjustment period with that.

And then there’s also that the team sucks, but has a lot of older forwards that are good enough that they demand playing time. Boucher is not a fixture in the top six. I’m pretty sure he’s been mostly in the bottom six, and probably very little PP time.

He’s also a player that impacts the game in more ways than scoring, so only using raw totals is a bad way to measure his impact.

He’s probably not going to justify being the 10th pick, but I think he’ll still have a good career eventually. He wasn’t ever likely to be much less than a two year player and more likely a three year player. Check back at the end of the season to see if he starts elevating himself into next season. Most freshman struggle early on in college hockey. It’s a higher level of hockey than they’ve ever played. This is nothing new.

Can everyone please keep this thread about Boucher? If people want to talk about the Senators drafting strategies, there are other places to talk about that.

I don’t know, man. He was a surprise top-10 pick and it seems pretty relevant to compare his poor performance so far (again, he was a top-10 pick, not some mid-rounder you could be happy with working hard in a team’s bottom-6 and “impacting the game in more ways than scoring”) to that of the consensus guy.

 

[Sting]

I don’t know, man. He was a surprise top-10 pick and it seems pretty relevant to compare his poor performance so far (again, he was a top-10 pick, not some mid-rounder you could be happy with working hard in a team’s bottom-6 and “impacting the game in more ways than scoring”) to that of the consensus guy.

For once, I agree with you.

It's still very early but had the Senators drafted Sillinger, he'd be on their roster right now. Boucher is a stretch to be on the roster in 3 years, let alone now.

 

[Dominance]

For once, I agree with you.

It's still very early but had the Senators drafted Sillinger, he'd be on their roster right now. Boucher is a stretch to be on the roster in 3 years, let alone now.

I mean the good thing is that the Sens don’t really need him to be a top-6 winger with how young and promising their current forward corps is. But on the other hand…you still want full value out of a top-10 pick, and with Pinto’s unfortunate injury I am just imagining:

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Stutzle-Sillinger-Formenton

That group is likely incredible in two years.

 

[Bevans]

No reason to dump on Boucher to compliment Sillinger.

Boucher played very little last season after being injured for most of the season, so there’s an adjustment period with that.

And then there’s also that the team sucks, but has a lot of older forwards that are good enough that they demand playing time. Boucher is not a fixture in the top six. I’m pretty sure he’s been mostly in the bottom six, and probably very little PP time.

He’s also a player that impacts the game in more ways than scoring, so only using raw totals is a bad way to measure his impact.

He’s probably not going to justify being the 10th pick, but I think he’ll still have a good career eventually. He wasn’t ever likely to be much less than a two year player and more likely a three year player. Check back at the end of the season to see if he starts elevating himself into next season. Most freshman struggle early on in college hockey. It’s a higher level of hockey than they’ve ever played. This is nothing new.

Can everyone please keep this thread about Boucher? If people want to talk about the Senators drafting strategies, there are other places to talk about that.

I object your honor. Comparing Boucher to the BPA that went next is fair game.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I don’t know, man. He was a surprise top-10 pick and it seems pretty relevant to compare his poor performance so far (again, he was a top-10 pick, not some mid-rounder you could be happy with working hard in a team’s bottom-6 and “impacting the game in more ways than scoring”) to that of the consensus guy.

You ain't wrong here. Sens management got overconfident. They got too excited at what they did in 2021 and decided to go for the ultimate grandslam during an unknown season. I seen some of Boucher's footage, he is not nearly as bad as his point totals suggest, but Sillinger was clearly the better prospect. Sens picked Boucher as the better fit in the future, but I don't even know how that applies when Sillinger doesn't play small and had top 5 skillset.

 

[NHL Dude 120]

I'd probably want him spending 3 years in college he'd turn pro in the 2023-2024 season and spend another year or two in the AHL.
He's gotta pick it up offensively and be a beast at the world Juniors.