RW Matvei Michkov - SKA-1946 St.Petersburg, MHL (2023 Draft)

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Atas2000

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Russians can’t survive western culture shock or something?
It was throughly discussed what feels like a hundred times. It's a variety of factors, the culture shock being the least important of those. The culture shock assumption is based on the western media depiction of Russia. What is so different about NA except for the language? The important factors are hockey related. A different brand and school of hockey in Russia. Young players who finalize their education in Russia tend to meet expectations or exceed them. Those who make the jump early start learning a different approch to hockey at age 17-18 in NA, while their russian hockey is still raw. They end up not good at any of those hockey schools. There are exemplary exception cases like Provorov who went to NA even earlier at 14 and learned in the US system before going to the CHL. In his case it obviously worked. Have a look at the currently so troubled D development in Russia. Out of russian D-men currently in the NHL only Sergachyov is an exception from the rule. Kulikov and Zadorov both former first rounders develeoped in the CHL and never found that projected potential in the NHL. Zadorov became a somewhat usable DD, but seems to have consistency issues and his CHL numbers on the offence never translated. Kulikov is just mediocre to bad. Orlov(2nd round) - a solid NHLer never played a CHL game. Gavrikov(6th round), Zaytsev, Lyubushkin(both undrafted), developed in Russia and while Zaytsev has at least some resume prior, the other two were not even on the board once and look at them now, they are NHLers. And the defencemen development in Russia is supposed to be bad. With forwards that would be even more obvious.
 

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Andrei scored on the same pace as Kovy in the same 2nd season at the same age, nobody expected him being better, than Ilya... well, save you, probably...
Nobody in NA maybe. But who expected Panarin to make 10 Mil. in NA before he got there?
 

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Lol, he's right up there, nobody expected him being the next Ovechkin, more like Kovalchuk/Tarasenko, and he's not far behind the expectation, if behind at all.

I thought you'd remember that back in the days Svechnikov was "our answer to McDavid".


Back on topic, is the transfer to SKA official already?
 

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It was throughly discussed what feels like a hundred times. It's a variety of factors, the culture shock being the least important of those. The culture shock assumption is based on the western media depiction of Russia. What is so different about NA except for the language? The important factors are hockey related. A different brand and school of hockey in Russia. Young players who finalize their education in Russia tend to meet expectations or exceed them. Those who make the jump early start learning a different approch to hockey at age 17-18 in NA, while their russian hockey is still raw. They end up not good at any of those hockey schools. There are exemplary exception cases like Provorov who went to NA even earlier at 14 and learned in the US system before going to the CHL. In his case it obviously worked. Have a look at the currently so troubled D development in Russia. Out of russian D-men currently in the NHL only Sergachyov is an exception from the rule. Kulikov and Zadorov both former first rounders develeoped in the CHL and never found that projected potential in the NHL. Zadorov became a somewhat usable DD, but seems to have consistency issues and his CHL numbers on the offence never translated. Kulikov is just mediocre to bad. Orlov(2nd round) - a solid NHLer never played a CHL game. Gavrikov(6th round), Zaytsev, Lyubushkin(both undrafted), developed in Russia and while Zaytsev has at least some resume prior, the other two were not even on the board once and look at them now, they are NHLers. And the defencemen development in Russia is supposed to be bad. With forwards that would be even more obvious.
Adapt or die. Can’t blame NA for doing that, I thought Russians were supposed to be tough? Lol
 

Atas2000

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Adapt or die. Can’t blame NA for doing that, I thought Russians were supposed to be tough? Lol
What does it have to do with toughness? Have you ever taught anyone anything?

Okay, I'll take the time for you. Let's say we have two kids. Both can't swim. We throw one in the water and tell him to "adapt or die", the other one we take to a swimming coach who will teach him swimming. Who is becoming a better swimmer, what do you think? Both will learn to swim eventually though.

If "adapt or die" was the sophisticated method of teaching hockey in the CHL, then we'd be done with discussing why it is so bad as a place for development of russian hockey kids. You really should stop watching Hollywood crap or take it for real. Those great wisdoms from bad movies(that is what "adapt or die" sounds like) could not be further from RL.
 

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Although sports.ru is a very doubtful source, but today Michkov himself confirmed that he indeed is transfering to the SKA system.
They are not a doubtful source. If they report a done deal. then it is. They are just a news site, so they would clickbait people with rumors and claims by indeed unreliable sources. But they are identifiable as such. They do state they quote somebody's claim not a confirmed fact.
 

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Yeah, considering they picked him in 17th round, they don't believe much themselves, he'll come...

Would it be actually possible though for him to go to Chicago or the CHL after a year after signing a contract with SKA? Can he break that contract and leave?
 

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Thought Muskegon would have taken a shot him, but regardless I don't think anyone will be able to pry him from SKA at this point.
 

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First time I heard about this kid. My brother who found a video on him said this kid is a better prospect/player than Ovechkin at age 16.

He is in the Shane wright/ fantilli draft. Is he really supposed to be near a Ovechkin talent?
 

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First time I heard about this kid. My brother who found a video on him said this kid is a better prospect/player than Ovechkin at age 16.

He is in the Shane wright/ fantilli draft. Is he really supposed to be near a Ovechkin talent?

Nah, he is in the Bedard draft, Wright is one year older.
 
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