RW Matvei Michkov - SKA-1946 St.Petersburg, MHL (2023 Draft)

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Atas2000

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Michkov reminds me of Datsyuk, but with more love for the goal. How does it compare to Datsyuk in talent, handling, IQ and so on?
I would not go with that comparison. Michkov is pretty much clearly a scorer and way less a playmaker. Completely different types of players. It's hard judging IQ that early because he until now played mostly on a level where high IQ game is not really developed. What can be said is that he has an absolute feel for positioning, great skating, stickhandling and shot. The biggest issue with him is him being at times a bit lazy because he can rely on his talent to torch the D. He needs that grown ups game hammered into him by coaches. The higher the level gets the less slack he will be getting for not being involved in every aspect of the game. The MHL will be a good first test for him playing way more structured hockey against older guys who can offset his talent with experience and body measures. The guess is he will be playing as an underager a lot, be it in the MHL or on the NT. I can only hope this will help him not getting overconfident based on his natural talent level alone which is remarable.
 

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What’s the word on Michkov? His numbers are insane. My question really is, if he’s going to be the generational talent from Russia, will he get KHL looks in his D-2 or D-1 seasons? I don’t know when the last time that’s happened was, but for a generational player, it’s what I’d expect. I’m willing to bet that McDavid could’ve been in the KHL in his D-1 season. Lambert got Ligga looks in his D-3, but ligga isn’t all that close to the KHL.
 

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What’s the word on Michkov? His numbers are insane. My question really is, if he’s going to be the generational talent from Russia, will he get KHL looks in his D-2 or D-1 seasons? I don’t know when the last time that’s happened was, but for a generational player, it’s what I’d expect. I’m willing to bet that McDavid could’ve been in the KHL in his D-1 season. Lambert got Ligga looks in his D-3, but ligga isn’t all that close to the KHL.

If he torches the MHL this season, there will be a chance, he starts his D-1 season in the KHL. He'll be the same age, as Tarasenko, when the latter started to play in the KHL. Tarasenko was way more mature physically, though.
 

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What’s the word on Michkov? His numbers are insane. My question really is, if he’s going to be the generational talent from Russia, will he get KHL looks in his D-2 or D-1 seasons? I don’t know when the last time that’s happened was, but for a generational player, it’s what I’d expect. I’m willing to bet that McDavid could’ve been in the KHL in his D-1 season. Lambert got Ligga looks in his D-3, but ligga isn’t all that close to the KHL.

I'd say, the main problem with Michkov is, he can stay for pretty long in the KHL. If he's as good as projected, there will be a good chance, SKA throws a shitload of money at him, because he's not under the cap till the age of 21. So I'm afraid, if he chooses between making a few millions/year with 13% tax or $900k/year with 40% tax, he'll make the choice 99% people make.

In the situation like this, I doubt, he'll be picked very high at the draft.
 
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I'd say, the main problem with Michkov is, he can stay for pretty long in the KHL. If he's as good as projected, there will be a good chance, SKA throws a shitload of money at him, because he's not under the cap till the age of 21. So I'm afraid, if he chooses between making a few millions/year with 13% tax or $900k/year with 40% tax, he'll make the choice 99% people make.

In the situation like this, I doubt, he'll be picked very high at the draft.

If he will be such generational talent, he will be Nr. 1 pick. Even if he wants to play in his D+1, or maybe also D+2 season in KHL.
 
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What’s the word on Michkov? His numbers are insane. My question really is, if he’s going to be the generational talent from Russia, will he get KHL looks in his D-2 or D-1 seasons? I don’t know when the last time that’s happened was, but for a generational player, it’s what I’d expect. I’m willing to bet that McDavid could’ve been in the KHL in his D-1 season. Lambert got Ligga looks in his D-3, but ligga isn’t all that close to the KHL.
His physical abilities will have a lot to do with it. There is no use throwing a talented guy into the mosh pit of fully grown hockey players if he is not physically ready, because afterwards he will be anyway. Guys like Ovechkin or Tarasenko who played at that level at 17 are built like tanks.
 

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I'd say, the main problem with Michkov is, he can stay for pretty long in the KHL. If he's as good as projected, there will be a good chance, SKA throws a shitload of money at him, because he's not under the cap till the age of 21. So I'm afraid, if he chooses between making a few millions/year with 13% tax or $900k/year with 40% tax, he'll make the choice 99% people make.

In the situation like this, I doubt, he'll be picked very high at the draft.
That would be interesting. I wonder how far he’d fall, if any, if that’s the case.
 

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If he doesn't leave within the next year or two to North America, it's likely he stays until at least 20/21 especially if SKA throws big money his way. Like others have mentioned alot will depend on his physical development. If he stays at 5'9 , I would think he should aim to hit minimum 170 lbs before attempting the NHL. Then again a 5'11 Panarin is only 170 lbs but had already peaked physically when he came over as a man of 24 years old.
 

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Miroshnichenko plays like an adult, Michkov like a kid. Miroshnichenko is a safer bet to make to another level.
Miroshnichenko is a year older. At that age, it makes a big difference
 

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Michkov still outscored him on the every level, it looks like even his kid hockey is better, than Miroshnichenko's adult one...
On every level, what do you mean? Michkov played u-16s, Miroshnichenko played u-17s and u-18s.
 

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On every level, what do you mean? Michkov played u-16s, Miroshnichenko played u-17s and u-18s.

Miroshnichenko scored 35+17 a year ago, playing vs same age, Michkov played this season. It's twice as worse statistics as Michkov's, and 2004 is much stronger, than 2003. Don't forget about the Olympics, where Michkov outscored Miroshnichenko, being 10 months younger.
 
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Miroshnichenko scored 35+17 a year ago, playing vs same age, Michkov played this season. It's twice as worse statistics as Michkov's, and 2004 is much stronger, than 2003. Don't forget about the Olympics, where Michkov outscored Miroshnichenko, being 10 months younger.
So by "every level" you mean "only the u16 level", I see.

In general comparisons like this are far off base, both are 04-born and in 18-19 Miroshnichenko scored 53 points in 25 games while Michkov scored 10 points in 7 games, this was the u15 year for both.
 

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So by "every level" you mean "only the u16 level", I see.

In general comparisons like this are far off base, both are 04-born and in 18-19 Miroshnichenko scored 53 points in 25 games while Michkov scored 10 points in 7 games, this was the u15 year for both.

Man, look at that todler, who was born in the past February - he already lives and smiles, and the one, who's going to be born in December, is still just an embrion. By your logic, they are about the same, but actually they aren't...

As to "only U16 level" remark, do you know, that best 2003 year players played in the MHL this last season, while 2004 ones still played in regional junior leagues?
 

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Miroshnichenko plays like an adult, Michkov like a kid. Miroshnichenko is a safer bet to make to another level.
That kid outscored that adult every time they were playing on the same level. Must be some kid then.

I say a kid who scored 77 goals in 33 games against his peers is a pretty good bet.

Miroshnichenko scored 36 in 25 at the same level and age. What held him back?

Add to that that Miroschnichenko has decided to wreck his career by leaving even earlier than the others who failed before him and I don't expect Miroshnichenko to pan out at all.
 
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