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RW Matvei Michkov - SKA-1946 St.Petersburg, MHL (2023 Draft) Part 2

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Kshahdoo said:
I'd personally look, how good he looks in Liiga or SHL. I doubt Bragin let him play in the KHL this season. Right now Bragin doesn't care about developing Michkov, he only cares about holding his place. 2 min TOI in the last game...
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That's because it shouldn't be his job to have 16 y.o. in his lineup. I can't understand how is this on Bragin.

At least Svechkov and Chibrikov are down to the VHL which is a return to sanity of sorts.
 
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SoundAndFury said:
That's because it shouldn't be his job to have 16 y.o. in his lineup. I can't understand how is this on Bragin.

At least Svechkov and Chibrikov are down to the VHL which is a return to sanity of sorts.
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Yeah, Tarasenko played as 16 yo, and Michkov is better, than Tarasenko was. Matvei already has one of the best shot on the team. He coud be used at the very least as a PP specialist, especially given the team can't score and PP teams don't look any good.
 
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Yeah, Tarasenko played as 16 yo, and Michkov is better, than Tarasenko was. Matvei already has one of the best shot on the team. He coud be used at the very least as a PP specialist, especially given the team can't score and PP teams don't look any good.
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I can't remember this, but I would think it was easier to crack Sibir's roster then than it is to crack SKA's this year, based not only on the talent but just on the sheer number of players SKA has on the roster this year.

I hope Michkov gets a good look when some of the bottom teams from the East or Sochi come to SPB. Those should be easy points for SKA and hopefully that will mean plenty of ice-time for Michkov and some of the other youngsters.
 

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Kshahdoo said:
Yeah, Tarasenko played as 16 yo, and Michkov is better, than Tarasenko was. Matvei already has one of the best shot on the team. He coud be used at the very least as a PP specialist, especially given the team can't score and PP teams don't look any good.
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Looked it up. Tarasenko: 38GP with 9 minutes of icetime. Michkov is already at 10GP with 8:17 of icetime. No big difference there. You are overreacting.

As far as PP specialist is concerned I don't think it is any reasonable. What's the point? What's the development value?
 

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Atas2000 said:
Looked it up. Tarasenko: 38GP with 9 minutes of icetime. Michkov is already at 10GP with 8:17 of icetime. No big difference there. You are overreacting.

As far as PP specialist is concerned I don't think it is any reasonable. What's the point? What's the development value?
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Confidence? And don't forget about actually helping his team, especially considering it needs it.
 

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Confidence? And don't forget about actually helping his team, especially considering it needs it.
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Confidence from being sheltered and deployed only to pot in an occasional goal on the PP? He should be getting confidence in all three leagues available and play in the KHL only against weaker teams maybe for now. And let's not forget kids grow up fast. He might have a second half of the season to remember. At this age his game can make leaps in months. At the start of the seasons we've seen he is not yet ready for the KHL. And then there is that Bedard guy still playing in juniors and nobody claims he should be in the NHL already. Nothing wrong with not rushing things.

Right now I don't see him helping his team too at KHL level. From the games I watched it was rather a forced deployment of a too young kid who is not producing. The team needs help, but it should come from older guys like Marchenko and Khusnutdinov. And maybe the vets should get their act together more.
 
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He's still bigger, than Johnny Hockey who plays in the NHL...
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He's taller yet even lighter. Hardly a favorable argument for you.

To me, the solution to this whole argument is super easy. Let him play in the VHL, if he does well/dominates, promote him. It's that easy, it's what more or less everyone else has to do. It's not hard, all teams are in the same city, practice in the same rink. If he meets a significant challenge in the VHL (which I for one think he would) all the further debate would be redundant.
 
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He's taller yet even lighter. Hardly a favorable argument for you.

To me, the solution to this whole argument is super easy. Let him play in the VHL, if he does well/dominates, promote him. It's that easy, it's what more or less everyone else has to do. It's not hard, all teams are in the same city, practice in the same rink. If he meets a significant challenge in the VHL (which I for one think he would) all the further debate would be redundant.
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No sh** he's lighter than Gaudreau hes 12 years younger. You can't compare the size of a 28 year old to a 16 year old. Michkov can still grow height wise, and will no doubt bulk up as he ages.
 
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No sh** he's lighter than Gaudreau hes 12 years younger. You can't compare the size of a 28 year old to a 16 year old. Michkov can still grow height wise, and will no doubt bulk up as he ages.
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Fantomas said:
He's 16.
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Have you guys read the thread at all? The discussion was should he play in the KHL NOW and is his size a limiting factor TODAY.

I think everyone is well aware of his age and potential to grow.
 
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Have you guys read the thread at all? The discussion was should he play in the KHL NOW and is his size a limiting factor TODAY.

I think everyone is well aware of his age and potential to grow.
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Michkov doesn't look light to me. He's very well built and strong.

The only issue for him in the KHL is the lack of icetime. Nothing else.

But I agree that VHL icetime would be a good compromise.
 
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SoundAndFury said:
He's taller yet even lighter. Hardly a favorable argument for you.

To me, the solution to this whole argument is super easy. Let him play in the VHL, if he does well/dominates, promote him. It's that easy, it's what more or less everyone else has to do. It's not hard, all teams are in the same city, practice in the same rink. If he meets a significant challenge in the VHL (which I for one think he would) all the further debate would be redundant.
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I would look at him in the MHL first. If he dominates there the VHL will be the next logical step. Don't know what Roman has tried to accomplish by calling him up and giving him no ice-time.
 

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wings5 said:
Why is he playing on Varyagi instead of SKA-1946 St. Petersburg?
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As far as I understand, he plays just in home games so probably becase Varyagi suited to him better. Or probably because Varyagi sucked so he was sent to them as emergency help. They've won 5 out of 6 last games with him.

23:13 TOI btw, 3 min more than the next closest on the team.
 
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As far as I understand, he plays just in home games so probably becase Varyagi suited to him better. Or probably because Varyagi sucked so he was sent to them as emergency help. They've won 5 out of 6 last games with him.
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True, he probably never leaves the ice with Varyagi. Still , I expected him to go to the VHL as much lesser prospects are getting KHL/VHL time.
 
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