RW Matvei Michkov - HC Sochi, KHL (2023 Draft) - PART 3

[MNRube]

The million dollar question with Michkov is when he will arrive in North America. Anybody who questions if he is a rare talent just hasn't watched him enough.

GMs get fired all the time and if it looks like a 3 or 4 year wait, they will be tempted by the big centers tearing up the NCAA & SHL. It’s obviously a mistake but it’s the nature of the beast. I think it will come down to when teams think they can get him. I do think Columbus would take him 2nd and so would Montreal.

 

[Putt Pirate]

The million dollar question with Michkov is when he will arrive in North America. Anybody who questions if he is a rare talent just hasn't watched him enough.

GMs get fired all the time and if it looks like a 3 or 4 year wait, they will be tempted by the big centers tearing up the NCAA & SHL. It’s obviously a mistake but it’s the nature of the beast. I think it will come down to when teams think they can get him. I do think Columbus would take him 2nd and so would Montreal.

I am hoping the Hawks are considering him too. He is a great prospect.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

I can't wait to see this kid on NA ice. He is magic. Hopefully for my team.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

The million dollar question with Michkov is when he will arrive in North America. Anybody who questions if he is a rare talent just hasn't watched him enough.

GMs get fired all the time and if it looks like a 3 or 4 year wait, they will be tempted by the big centers tearing up the NCAA & SHL. It’s obviously a mistake but it’s the nature of the beast. I think it will come down to when teams think they can get him. I do think Columbus would take him 2nd and so would Montreal.

A kid as talented as he is, you hope it is for the 2025/26 season after his KHL contract concludes.

 

[BenchBrawl]

Still absolutely convinced he should go #2.

 

[kp61c]

A kid as talented as he is, you hope it is for the 2025/26 season after his KHL contract concludes.

his contract with SKAexpires after 2025/26 season

 

[GermanSpitfire]

his contract with SKAexpires after 2025/26 season

you’re right - point still stands.

 

[WeThreeKings]

The million dollar question with Michkov is when he will arrive in North America. Anybody who questions if he is a rare talent just hasn't watched him enough.

GMs get fired all the time and if it looks like a 3 or 4 year wait, they will be tempted by the big centers tearing up the NCAA & SHL. It’s obviously a mistake but it’s the nature of the beast. I think it will come down to when teams think they can get him. I do think Columbus would take him 2nd and so would Montreal.

Montreal won't.

There was a report from Russia that last year Montreal and Philadelphia wouldn't be drafting from Russia. Now, I can't speak to the veracity of Philadelphia but..

Kent Hughes was asked during the combine whether there was any truth to that and Kent Hughes responded something like "Well, we just interviewed a Russian today."

The only Russian at the combine was Pavel Mintyukov who was already in Canada and playing in the CHL.

So the total non-response there leads me to believe that it is the truth, the Habs won't be drafting out of Russia.

 

[LazyCircuits]

The million dollar question with Michkov is when he will arrive in North America. Anybody who questions if he is a rare talent just hasn't watched him enough.

GMs get fired all the time and if it looks like a 3 or 4 year wait, they will be tempted by the big centers tearing up the NCAA & SHL. It’s obviously a mistake but it’s the nature of the beast. I think it will come down to when teams think they can get him. I do think Columbus would take him 2nd and so would Montreal.

With the caveat that our GM is hard to read and I wouldn’t play poker with him, Columbus may be interested at 2 or 3.

Yes we are desperate for another top 6 centre and we already have two very highly paid wingers (plus a boatload of middle 6ew) but the timeline with Michkov brings him into the fold just as Laine reaches UFA and Johnny Hockey likely begins a decline.

This all hinges on whether the man who reached for Dubois and Chinakov is that predictable.

 

[Kshahdoo]

Montreal won't.

There was a report from Russia that last year Montreal and Philadelphia wouldn't be drafting from Russia. Now, I can't speak to the veracity of Philadelphia but..

Kent Hughes was asked during the combine whether there was any truth to that and Kent Hughes responded something like "Well, we just interviewed a Russian today."

The only Russian at the combine was Pavel Mintyukov who was already in Canada and playing in the CHL.

So the total non-response there leads me to believe that it is the truth, the Habs won't be drafting out of Russia.

Then Michkov won't play for Montreal...

 

[Egresch]

The million dollar question with Michkov is when he will arrive in North America. Anybody who questions if he is a rare talent just hasn't watched him enough.

GMs get fired all the time and if it looks like a 3 or 4 year wait, they will be tempted by the big centers tearing up the NCAA & SHL. It’s obviously a mistake but it’s the nature of the beast. I think it will come down to when teams think they can get him. I do think Columbus would take him 2nd and so would Montreal.

Do you really think that gap between Michkov and Fantilli/Carlsson is that big? If you add all those risks associated with Michkov, you play smart. The real discussion comes at no. 4 position where the gap starts to be intriguing.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Do you really think that gap between Michkov and Fantilli/Carlsson is that big? If you add all those risks associated with Michkov, you play smart. The real discussion comes at no. 4 position where the gap starts to be intriguing.

The gap between Michkov and Fantilli/Carlsson is as big as the gap between Bedard and Fantilli/Carlsson

 

[Czechboy]

His TOI is okay or according to the circumstances. Sochi is defending most time of the game.

Is there a 5 on 5 (ESP) total?

 

[Wats]

Montreal won't.

There was a report from Russia that last year Montreal and Philadelphia wouldn't be drafting from Russia. Now, I can't speak to the veracity of Philadelphia but..

Kent Hughes was asked during the combine whether there was any truth to that and Kent Hughes responded something like "Well, we just interviewed a Russian today."

The only Russian at the combine was Pavel Mintyukov who was already in Canada and playing in the CHL.

So the total non-response there leads me to believe that it is the truth, the Habs won't be drafting out of Russia.

It's a shame, feel like if he falls to 4-7 he's easily the best player available. Add to that he'll have protection from being rushed to NHL in place and should be able to develop over 3 years and jump straight into top 6 assuming he lights up KHL.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

The gap between Michkov and Fantilli/Carlsson is as big as the gap between Bedard and Fantilli/Carlsson

If habs get second pick and pass on this guy..........

 

[Sasha Orlov]

It's a shame, feel like if he falls to 4-7 he's easily the best player available. Add to that he'll have protection from being rushed to NHL in place and should be able to develop over 3 years and jump straight into top 6 assuming he lights up KHL.

He’s arguably BPA period
If he was a C and guaranteed to be in NA next year he would have a strong case for 1st overall

 

[GlassesJacketShirt]

If habs get second pick and pass on this guy..........

My guess is they'd pass on him with their second round pick if that scenario actually occured.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

My guess is they'd pass on him with their second round pick if that scenario actually occured.

I would be livid, Special talent , or bust hell what do I know lol

 

[Kshahdoo]

I'm pretty sure Matvei doesn't care what team will pick him.

 

[olgerd]

I'm pretty sure Matvei doesn't care what team will pick him.

However, he cares what # he will be picked. He said about this after moving to Sochi, that this is a chance for him to be a higher pick.

 

[Fatass]

Imagine this guy injected into a clubs lineup in the 2026 season as a 22 year old. He will be an instant and huge difference maker and be on his elc for three seasons! Whomever gets him wins the draft.

 

[NatusVincere]

Is there a 5 on 5 (ESP) total?

Unfortunately not, if I see it correctly. The pages of the KHL or VHL do not show this information either. But what is shown is that he has scored 2 ES goals and 1 PP in the KHL and 5 ES goals and 5 PP goals in the VHL. In the MHL last year he had 18 goals at ES and 11 PP goals.

Thats about the rumors that Michkov is "much less effective" at ES.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Does Sochi still wear the sharks-based jerseys? Michkov is already testing out how he looks in teal.

 

[Egresch]

However, he cares what # he will be picked. He said about this after moving to Sochi, that this is a chance for him to be a higher pick.

Which is little strange because especially in his case it does not matter at all. It only matters who drafts him and if they can bring him to NA sooner than 2026. If not, he will be 22 on ELC, 99% probability he will be ready for top 6 immediate impact, so his draft position will be absolutely irrelevant at that time in 2026.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

Which is little strange because especially in his case it does not matter at all. It only matters who drafts him and if they can bring him to NA sooner than 2026. If not, he will be 22 on ELC, 99% probability he will be ready for top 6 immediate impact, so his draft position will be absolutely irrelevant at that time in 2026.

I'm pretty sure the higher your pick the more money you will earn on your ELC or through a signing bonus or something like that. I don't have exact dollar figures though.