I still think either Sharks or Habs won't let him pass by them...
RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4
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I still think either Sharks or Habs won't let him pass by them...
Aaaarrgghh
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I have not yet heard a single good reason as to why he would drop to the Capitals and yet it is repeated again and again. So I just assume someone at one time thought "well, the Capitals have a history with talented Russians, so I guess this makes sense" for fun and then the rest is just echoes.
Another way to look at the Michkov situation is, teams are saying they're interested in Michkov, so they can get a team to move up, and then they can gain assets and still draft their guy.
Shark Finn
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That's a fun way to spell Blue Jackets.
Not sure why the Caps would be a great team for him, the prospect pool is totally depleeted and their vets are old. Not sure what it will look like in 3 years... but I'd definitely want to be a habs , coyotes or sharks if I'm aiming for 2026
Grate n Colorful Oz
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Lol... you need to realize just how much French descendance there is in the US of A.
I'd like the line of Gritsyuk - Khusnutdinov - Michkov on SKA. Could be a fine group of young players together.
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Petes2424
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Honestly, how many people have watched him play a full game? Like many skilled European wingers, he plays almost exclusively on the outside. In Europe, the D collapse much more than in the NHL, because honestly, they’re not as skilled one on one players.. It allows success from the outside, because skilled wingers have more time.
There are very, very few players talented enough to score from the outside in the NHL. We just watched a SCF where Florida couldn’t even set up outside because Vegas was in their face.
Zadina was the last one who I can remember, almost being exclusively an outside player, being drafted in the Top 10. He still struggles with it. As good as his shot is, he doesn’t have that extra time anymore.
It could come down to, if teams think they can get him to overcome this. Does he have, what we call, that first step? Can he make a defender miss, and buy himself time to score from the outside? It’s hard because we haven’t seen it.
Would it be a surprise if a team drafts him at #5? No, but I’m not sure people should be surprised if he drops entirely out of the Top 10. Teams invest so much into Top picks and not being able to have control over his development, is a big thing. The KHL isn’t going to help him change his game.
The good news is, we’re going to know by this time next week.
There are very, very few players talented enough to score from the outside in the NHL. We just watched a SCF where Florida couldn’t even set up outside because Vegas was in their face.
Zadina was the last one who I can remember, almost being exclusively an outside player, being drafted in the Top 10. He still struggles with it. As good as his shot is, he doesn’t have that extra time anymore.
It could come down to, if teams think they can get him to overcome this. Does he have, what we call, that first step? Can he make a defender miss, and buy himself time to score from the outside? It’s hard because we haven’t seen it.
Would it be a surprise if a team drafts him at #5? No, but I’m not sure people should be surprised if he drops entirely out of the Top 10. Teams invest so much into Top picks and not being able to have control over his development, is a big thing. The KHL isn’t going to help him change his game.
The good news is, we’re going to know by this time next week.
Boy Hedican
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Grate n Colorful Oz
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You really think he's gonna do that to the guy who got Nurse's massively overpaid contract?
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Michkov seems to like to setup behind the net and within a meter of the side of the posts though. It is a morr threatening position because he can body, pass, wraparound, or Michigan being that close to the net. I wouldnt consider that "perimeter play". He likes to shuffle between those two areas, going behind to retrieve pucks and stuff and this is a completely transferable skill to the NHL.
Acallabeth
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That's great! Probably an unfathomable idea in your eyes, but maybe the kid who's put together arguably the best prospect resume in Russian history doesn't f***ing need to 'change his game'? There's enough Ryan Smiths to dump the puck in, battle near the boards and get the pucks on net.
Grate n Colorful Oz
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Which is also very different from Zadina. Zadina was limited to two moves and scored the majority of his goals from the same spot, from the same patterned play. There was little flexibility in how he would exploit ice. Michkov is the opposite.
SomeDude
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Calling Michkov a perimeter player and then mocking people asking if they've ever watched him play a full game is very ironic.
He's not afraid to drive to the net, but his shot is good enough he can score a lot without doing so. He's not the stereotypical soft perimeter Euro winger like you paint him as. He's also adjusted to drawing the larger and older D he's now facing to go for a poke check and using that split second to get a step and prevent them from gaping up on him.
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Going from outside to inside, especially as a NZ or multi-line puck carrier is really tough to overcome. You look at a supernova talent in Alexander Ovechkin, even he had trouble in his prime working from outside to back in (I talk about that here with lazy video accompaniment: Ovechkin just won his 9th Rocket. Does this change how you view him?). That's part of why the Capitals didn't win in the playoffs, they seemed to always meet a d-man that could hang on (or in some cases, barely hang on - Scuderi) and that was enough though. When they added a more dynamic visionary that could carry it across multiple lines in the middle of the ice (Kuznetsov), that's when it took off. Kuzy was the MVP of that run especially when you factor in what we know about the previous decade+. But that's not for here.
So, anyway, you look at an absolute beast like Ovechkin and even he (capitalized?) couldn't always make it back to the rich, creamy center of the rink. What the hell chance does the aforementioned Filip Zadina or Jean-Luc Foudy have in the NHL, right?
Michkov isn't super explosive from a skating perspective, certainly not compared to other high skill guys like him. And what's his "B" game, right? I've never been terribly impressed by his playmaking/vision combination. So, again, if you're gonna be outside (and I'm not saying he's going to be stuck out there like an Alexander Pashin or anything) and you're not an amazing skater and you're not a high-end vision player, but you have superb technical skills and shooting prowess, I get a sense of where you're gonna lean to get out of these situations. And I think there's legitimate concern about how this is all gonna work. Look, don't get me wrong - he's gonna play. That's not what I'm saying...but we're talking about a #2 pick? A #4? A #8 whatever it is, right? You have to really understand what you got in a player, what you don't got, and what's the plan? There are some teams out that have wonderful development programs and even surface level analysis of who is churning players into the NHL - more complete players into the NHL - will tip you off as to who is really good at developing...this is one of those ones where I think it needs to be a good fit from a development perspective or it could go a little sideways.
If it goes perfect, you're looking at a smaller Alexei Kovalev type probably...but I think if you really dig in, you see some "outs" for this player that make you feel a little uneasy...a little...maybe, depending on what you like and what you look for...
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Michkov absolutely can thrive in the NHL.
Exclusively on the outside?
Michkov drives inside frequently. And his ‘office’ behind and around the net isn't exactly perimeter territory.
Guadana
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"I didn`t saw his game, but may be he is bad and not a fit for NHL, huh? Don`t you like it? Blind fan."
His VHL games are on youtube. You can compare structure of the game and level of defense with junior leagues. And I`m not talking about KHL where Michkov was... pretty productive for his age. May be if people finally starting to watch his games, at least highlights, they will figure it out that he isn`t perimetr player actually.
Is it some kind of trolling? Or just... active anti-self-awareness?
I believe people are ok and understand the political and contract situation, but why we should write some fables for self-justification? Damage control when teams will pass him on the draft and after 4-5 years he will rape opponents? Who cares, everybody will forget that. But it`s harder to forget false narratives.
His VHL games are on youtube. You can compare structure of the game and level of defense with junior leagues. And I`m not talking about KHL where Michkov was... pretty productive for his age. May be if people finally starting to watch his games, at least highlights, they will figure it out that he isn`t perimetr player actually.
Is it some kind of trolling? Or just... active anti-self-awareness?
I believe people are ok and understand the political and contract situation, but why we should write some fables for self-justification? Damage control when teams will pass him on the draft and after 4-5 years he will rape opponents? Who cares, everybody will forget that. But it`s harder to forget false narratives.
I just searched all your posts and didn’t find it. Can you repost please?
AintLifeGrand
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wonder if current situation happening in Russia rn changes his mind and he decides to stay in North America
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