RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

It's absolute bullshit there is undertable money in the KHL. It's not 90s anymore. The league and teams would really hate anything like this, and punishment could be really severe to even think about undertable payments.

Alright then that helps the probability he comes over, which I always assumed was high anyways.


Habs better take him, or if they're being ignorant, make some team really pay to take him.

 

[Garl]

So you expected him to do what not a single player at his age has done in the history of the KHL?

Tarasenko, Ovechkin, Nichushkin

 

[ItWasJustified]

Tarasenko, Ovechkin, Nichushkin

All of them had worse PPG than Michkov in their draft year.

 

[ozzie]

All of them had worse PPG than Michkov in their draft year.

Not sure why you'd hang your hat on PPG to try to raise Michkov up here.

That speaks volumes to Ovechkin and Tarasenko that they played 40 or 50 games. They could contribute in other ways. Comparing anyone to Ovechkin seems silly at this point. Great 8 is insulted.

Some based on this Michkov is anywhere from an Ovechkin level to Nichuskin level prospect.

 

[Andrei79]

Blackhawks director of amateur scouting, Mike Doneghey, about Michkov:

"I guess there’s always that risk because he’d still be a 21-year-old kid. But in defense of Matvei, the little that I have talked to him, he’s got the competitive personality where I think he wants to get over here as soon as he can to prove to people that he should have been in this race all along."

Hope this is true, because that would mean Montreal gets one of Carlsson, Smith or Michkov.

 

[Zine]

Not sure why you'd hang your hat on PPG to try to raise Michkov up here.

That speaks volumes to Ovechkin and Tarasenko that they played 40 or 50 games. They could contribute in other ways. Comparing anyone to Ovechkin seems silly at this point. Great 8 is insulted.

Some based on this Michkov is anywhere from an Ovechkin level to Nichuskin level prospect.

The eye test is where Michkov's succeeds here.
Ovechkin was Ovechkin, but he was also a man-child at draft age.
Nichushkin was another teenager in a man's body, but his innate skill level wasn't on the same planet as Michkov's.

Tarasenko is somewhat a reasonable situational comparison, although he was given free reign to make mistake after mistake as his father was coach.

 

[ZDH]

Hope this is true, because that would mean Montreal gets one of Carlsson, Smith or Michkov.

You're guaranteed Smith or michkov at 5. The top 3 are a total lock.

 

[Garl]

All of them had worse PPG than Michkov in their draft year.

All of them were impact players on good or at least average teams. Michkov on the other hand was demoted to a farm

 

[NotProkofievian]

You're guaranteed Smith or michkov at 5. The top 3 are a total lock.

There are narratives in habs land about passing on both, if you can believe it.

 

[Zine]

All of them were impact players on good or at least average teams. Michkov on the other hand was demoted to a farm

Stop lying.

Nichushkin played 8 minutes/game (18 games) his draft year, and 4th line minutes during the playoffs.
And Sibir was garbage during Tarasenko's draft season.

The only player that fits such criteria is Ovechkin.

 

[frederixx]

His 3 years contract can't be a factor if everything else is clean. He's certainly the 2nd most talented player of the draft. Only Bedard could have an impact year 1 and maybe 1 more year 2. Most of them will take 3 years to become relevant. Then again, I didn't see much of him and it's based on what I've read. But I would take him ahead of Fantilli

 

[SlafySZN]

 

[Kshahdoo]

Btw SKA players, who moved to NHL in last 10 or so years. Panarin, Dadonov, Gavrikov, Barabanov, Zub, Shesterkin, Podkolzin, Marchenko, Kuzmenko. Don't forget about Gusev who played in the NHL for 2 years. Tarasenko and Buchnevich were SKA players too before coming to NA...

 

[ViD]

Fantilli 1+2 in 10 games
Leo Carlsson 3+2 in 8 games

Imagine what Michkov would’ve done to Hungary and likes had he been given enough ice time…uffff

 

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[Fatass]

OV does a lot more than score. He’s a heavy body who can change a game with crushing body checks or knockout fights.
Michkov is a great player. But he’s a different player than OV.

 

[NTDP]

I can't wait until he's drafted so I can stop reading point comparisons across all these leagues. For the past 3 months it's just stat line after stat line getting posted. Michkov is great because of the way he plays the game in which points become a subcomponent of how he plays.

All these top prospects have a had great seasons as far as points go, so yes I get it - it's very noteworthy. Not diminishing that aspect.

 

[OKR]

OV does a lot more than score. He’s a heavy body who can change a game with crushing body checks or knockout fights.
Michkov is a great player. But he’s a different player than OV.

Ovechkin has fought 4 times in his career, just because he once knocked out Svech doesn’t mean it’s really part of his game at all.

Michkov is clearly the better playmaker and all around smarter player of the two.

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

Ovechkin has fought 4 times in his career, just because he once knocked out Svech doesn’t mean it’s really part of his game at all.

Michkov is clearly the better playmaker and all around smarter player of the two.

Hits are definitely a big part of his game though he was /is a 6'3 230 lb power forward with the best shot of all time. His IQ is also pretty underrated.

I don't think the two are comparable at all, Ovi would be in serious consideration vs Bedard , he surpassed his projections but most people thought he could be a big power forward who could become one of the game's best goal scorers.

Take the Russian nationality away and there's really nothing similar about these two players. I think michkov is great and arguably #2 on talent this year, but he's far from Ovi, who was seen as one of the most NHL ready prospects since Lindros due to his combination of size and skill

 

[Mrb1p]

OV does a lot more than score. He’s a heavy body who can change a game with crushing body checks or knockout fights.
Michkov is a great player. But he’s a different player than OV.

Weve seen Ov play for 20 years now, we know he does nothing but score and land the occasional big hit.

Hits are definitely a big part of his game though he was /is a 6'3 230 lb power forward with the best shot of all time. His IQ is also pretty underrated.

I don't think the two are comparable at all, Ovi would be in serious consideration vs Bedard , he surpassed his projections but most people thought he could be a big power forward who could become one of the game's best goal scorers.

Take the Russian nationality away and there's really nothing similar about these two players. I think michkov is great and arguably #2 on talent this year, but he's far from Ovi, who was seen as one of the most NHL ready prospects since Lindros due to his combination of size and skill

If hes far from Ovi, why did he break all his records? No matter the situation, Michkov has outproduced Ovi at the same age.

 

[OKR]

Hits are definitely a big part of his game though he was /is a 6'3 230 lb power forward with the best shot of all time. His IQ is also pretty underrated.

I don't think the two are comparable at all, Ovi would be in serious consideration vs Bedard , he surpassed his projections but most people thought he could be a big power forward who could become one of the game's best goal scorers.

Take the Russian nationality away and there's really nothing similar about these two players. I think michkov is great and arguably #2 on talent this year, but he's far from Ovi, who was seen as one of the most NHL ready prospects since Lindros due to his combination of size and skill

Hence why i never made that comparison, but with Michkov his IQ is one of his best if not the best attribute. Ovechkin was physical specimen, if he had the IQ similar of Michkov’s he would’ve been the best hockey player of all time.

 

[ViD]

I don't think the two are comparable at all, Ovi would be in serious consideration vs Bedard , he surpassed his projections but most people thought he could be a big power forward who could become one of the game's best goal scorers.

You do realize had Russia not been banned and Michkov had destroyed a couple more WJHC, he would’ve also been in serious consideration vs Bedard (especially without a lengthy contract with SKA) instead of people discussing if he falls to 4th or 5th or more..

 

[MNRube]

Robertson is the best comp for me. Neither is an elite skater but they will pick you apart with time and space and both can do a lot of damage stationary on their off-wing.

I think he’s closer to Bedard than he is to Fantilli or Carlsson. Special, special talent that scours have had too much time to pick apart.

 

[ViD]

Robertson is the best comp for me. Neither is an elite skater but they will pick you apart with time and space and both can do a lot of damage stationary on their off-wing.

I think he’s closer to Bedard than he is to Fantilli or Carlsson. Special, special talent that scours have had too much time to pick apart.

Robertson is a big dude though

 

[Garl]

Stop lying.

Nichushkin played 8 minutes/game (18 games) his draft year, and 4th line minutes during the playoffs.
And Sibir was garbage during Tarasenko's draft season.

The only player that fits such criteria is Ovechkin.

Nichushkin was an impact player in playoffs. He was getting more trust as the season was going
Sibir was much better than Sochi and wasn't a farm team