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RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

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Michkov shouldn't go to the draft and stay at home. Any questions about whether he has any idea as to who might have killed his father or if he needs help to escape could be disturbing. After that he maybe decides to play in the KHL for ever... that would be bad for us and the NHL...Good for Bedard though.
 
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Can someone finally explain why it's a problem if Michkov doesn't come before 2026? I would understand if we were talking about contender, of course they would want Michkov RIGHT NOW because having a player who you expect to score at least 55-60 points for only 950k is amazing. But for teams in rebuild it doesn't matter. San Jose, Montreal, etc. won't be competitive in the next 3 years anyway. they don't need Michkov right now.
 
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Soul Assumption said:
Can someone finally explain why it's a problem if Michkov doesn't come before 2026? I would understand if we were talking about contender, of course they would want Michkov RIGHT NOW because having a player who you expect to score at least 55-60 points for only 950k is amazing. But for teams in rebuild it doesn't matter. San Jose, Montreal, etc. won't be competitive in the next 3 years anyway. they don't need Michkov right now.
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The problem is the lack of control. The NHL team that draft him won't have control over his development. They can't decide to take him to the NHL right away, put him in the AHL or let him stay in Russia for another year. All of that will already be decided until 2026 (unless he terminate his contract earlier).
 
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ItWasJustified said:
The problem is the lack of control. The NHL team that draft him won't have control over his development. They can't decide to take him to the NHL right away, put him in the AHL or let him stay in Russia for another year. All of that will already be decided until 2026 (unless he terminate his contract earlier).
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That's pretty much the best case scenario for Mtl, can't rush an other kid, gonna be develop like Kaprizov when he come and gonna be a steal on the cap.
 
Considering how high end of a player Michkov is, I seriously doubt he falls past San Jose at 4. Their owner is notoriously one of the most patient in the league. I wouldn't even be surprised if Anaheim "shocks" everyone and takes Michkov 2nd. Samueli is also known as a relatively patient owner. Not as notoriously patient as San Jose or Nashville's ownership groups, but the Ducks should know that if they pass on Michkov they are most likely passing on the best or 2nd best player in the draft.
 
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NatusVincere said:
Michkov shouldn't go to the draft and stay at home. Any questions about whether he has any idea as to who might have killed his father or if he needs help to escape could be disturbing. After that he maybe decides to play in the KHL for ever... that would be bad for us and the NHL...Good for Bedard though.
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If a journalist asked that I hope they get punched.

There's tough questions you ask and tough questions you don't.
 
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When is the last time the teams picking 2-6 in this draft had the opportunity to draft a player of Michkov caliber? How often does it happen for a franchise to have access to a prospects of this level?

Are a 3 years wait and the risk associated him really enough to justify sniffing on the opportunity of drafting him?
 
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When is the last time the teams picking 2-6 in this draft had the opportunity to draft a player of Michkov caliber? How often does it happen for a franchise to have access to a prospects of this level?

Are a 3 years wait and the risk associated him really enough to justify sniffing on the opportunity of drafting him?
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I was listening to NHL Draft Class podcast on Spotify and one of them had Columbus pass only because of those teams, they're the team that looks like they want to compete sooner, so they take Carlsson as he's, at most 1 year away from being an NHL regular.

Ducks taking Fanilli makes sense. Assuming they hit, Michkov would get more points, but Fanilli is a centre with size and the points wouldn't be that huge of a difference, so really you're looking at 3-6 looking at a player that's possibly 2nd in this draft if he wasn't Russia/didn't have that contract, or 1st in most of the recent drafts and possibly the next 2.

Chicago - Bedard
Anaheim - Fanilli
Columbus - Carlsson

San Jose, they're not competing anytime soon and Grier knows this. They can easily wait 3 years for him to come over.

Montreal - They have some good forwards, but nothing like Michkov. In 3 years they'll be looking to be a regular playoff team and adding a talent like Michkov on an ELC might help them overpay for a free agent, get some depth and maybe be more of a threat sooner, rather than later, or at all.

Arizona - That talent with Cooley in their new building... Would be great to see. They're not going to be good anytime soon. Cooley might be to going back to college for another year, so the wait isn't the issue.

Now, if San Jose passes for Smith I kind of get it. He's a centre and a very skilled one at that, so that's not a huge issue.

Montreal passing assuming it's the 3 and Smith gone ? Makes no f***ing sense.

Arizona passing ? Makes even more no f***ing sense.
 
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TheDogCerby said:
I was listening to NHL Draft Class podcast on Spotify and one of them had Columbus pass only because of those teams, they're the team that looks like they want to compete sooner, so they take Carlsson as he's, at most 1 year away from being an NHL regular.

Ducks taking Fanilli makes sense. Assuming they hit, Michkov would get more points, but Fanilli is a centre with size and the points wouldn't be that huge of a difference, so really you're looking at 3-6 looking at a player that's possibly 2nd in this draft if he wasn't Russia/didn't have that contract, or 1st in most of the recent drafts and possibly the next 2.

Chicago - Bedard
Anaheim - Fanilli
Columbus - Carlsson

San Jose, they're not competing anytime soon and Grier knows this. They can easily wait 3 years for him to come over.

Montreal - They have some good forwards, but nothing like Michkov. In 3 years they'll be looking to be a regular playoff team and adding a talent like Michkov on an ELC might help them overpay for a free agent, get some depth and maybe be more of a threat sooner, rather than later, or at all.

Arizona - That talent with Cooley in their new building... Would be great to see. They're not going to be good anytime soon. Cooley might be to going back to college for another year, so the wait isn't the issue.

Now, if San Jose passes for Smith I kind of get it. He's a centre and a very skilled one at that, so that's not a huge issue.

Montreal passing assuming it's the 3 and Smith gone ? Makes no f***ing sense.

Arizona passing ? Makes even more no f***ing sense.
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100% agree. I think that is the most likely scenario.

I would still keep an open mind on the possibility of Michkov going two or three. He has the potential to be a top 10 player in the league in his prime.
 
Lafreniere was drafted 3 years ago. The list of high end prospects, who did not make an impact in the first 2 or 3 years is very long. Malkin for different reason also came 2 years later. Kucherov was 20. Lecavallier, Thornton,.... werent relevant as teenagers.

I think its worth waiting 3 years for a non contender. Michkov will develop just in fine in the KHL and the team that drafts him, will get a close to prime Michkov for a low caphit, which could help to lift the cup in those 2 ELC years.
 
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Caser said:
Almost all of the KHL teams are indirectly owned by the government/state or whatever, yet somehow players still manage to arrive to the NHL.
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I can see that in a deleted offtopic conversation Fedotov's example was brought up as a counter argument to that and it is legit, so I would like to address it hoping I will be careful enough so it won't slip into OT or politics again. So for the only one Fedotov case so far we have:

2022 offseason: Marchenko, Askarov, Morozov, Kuzmenko, Trineyev, Kisakov, Zhuravlyov, Pashin (and almost Dronov, but in the last moment he decided against signing).

2023 offseason signings so far: Voronkov, Miroshnichenko, Groshev, Svechkov, Chibrikov, Romanov, Misyul, Neuchev.

Just in case, four guys from these lists were signed from the SKA organization.

Fedotov's situation is obviously a shitshow, but it can't outweigh all these guys if we use at least some logic. Even more, Fedotov's situation made all the prospects understand that they need to be careful about their student status (as it makes one immune from the army conscription) and Michkov himself told in an interview that this year he is finishing school and is planning to become a student.
 
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I'm thinking Grier takes him at 4, or he falls to 8-12 range.

If San Jose (who is probably in the earliest/deepest stage of a rebuild in the league looking at their team) doesn't take him, other teams have even more reason not to.
 
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It really seems like Montreal is more scared than say, San Jose, to take him.

Arpon Basu brought it up again on TSN 690.
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I'm not sure it's Montreal. I'd say there are a lot of people in Canada who can't stand the idea of Michkov in Montreal. So they do their best to not let it happen.
 
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I'm thinking Grier takes him at 4, or he falls to 8-12 range.

If San Jose (who is probably in the earliest/deepest stage of a rebuild in the league looking at their team) doesn't take him, other teams have even more reason not to.
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Caps will take Michkov if he is there for them.
 
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