RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

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Caser

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yet, Fedotov didn't serve in the army. It's obvious he bought some kind of document that allowed him not to be conscripted. He wasn't the only one who did it, but they threw the book at him and not the others.
Fedotov is still serving at this point. And before that he was in the KHL and you don't really have to buy something to get out of that while you're in the KHL, you know that connections matter and KHL teams have enough of those.

The main question was why Fedotov got detained and why his situation may or may not pertain to Michkov. Which you answered in the 2nd paragraph. Thank you. This is the first I’ve ever heard of the “student status” aspect of it.
Russia has a mandatory service of 1 year for every male aged 18-27. However there are exceptions for several categories: students, those who are ineligible by health reasons, fathers of two kids etc. Sportsmen are not one of these categories, however practice shows that Russian pro sports teams can pull the right strings to protect their guys. So Michkov technically is eligible for the service too, but as long as he is a student it should be fine.

I totally can't guess who wrote this, I mean even Grant McCagg has him in the Top10. :)
 

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Some team will be very happy if the 2nd best player drops out of the top 10. Worked very well for all the teams that passed on Kuznetsov or Tarasenko.
 

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Fedotov is still serving at this point. And before that he was in the KHL and you don't really have to buy something to get out of that while you're in the KHL, you know that connections matter and KHL teams have enough of those.
He didn't serve when he should have served. Connections matter and buying your way out of being conscripted is one way of taking advantage of these connections.
 

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Arizona is going to look very different in three years.
True. They will have a new rink and a good young club. Still it’s not a hockey city. Michkov might very well come there in 3 years or he might extend in Russia so he comes over for one year before he’s a UFA. Then he can get a big free agent contract in the city of his choosing. Panarin came over for two years.
 

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Lol you’re right he looks very small in this picture
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Matvei Michkov is same height as Connor Bedard. The Ovie pic was taken in July 2022. The kid is not skinny. Solid frame.
 

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He is not being talked about as if he was "most rookies". He is being talked about as if he is a lock to be an elite , if not generational player. If he wasn't Russian and/or wasn't under contract he would probably be taken right after Bedard, and more thought would be given to him being taken 1st. Those guys often play in the NHL right away, and certainly in the D+2 or D+3 years. Those years represent missed opportunities for teams, and management is judged harshly for failure. GM's are highly conscious that the clock is ticking, and have zero interest in leaving the cupboard stocked for their predecessor, when they can pick another player almost as good(Carlsson, Fantilli, Smith) that will probably be contributing to the team in their D+2 year, if not sooner.
If you, as a GM, are worried that you’ll lose your job by the time a potential elite prospect is coming over, then that’s on you for not having faith in yourself to build a good team LMFAO
 
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Seriously, his weight can't be listed correctly. He looks solid in that photo with Ovie.

I have concerns about Bedard (especially as a center), even more about Michkov. I won't believe it, until I see it at the NHL level. I suspect neither will reach the expectations people have for them. I don't think Michkov will make it past Arizona at the worst case.

With the exception of Ovechkin, you usually don't build cup contenders on the wings.

I also don't think you can easily dismiss the extra questions marks around Michkov, especially from the eyes of a General Manager in the NHL.
 

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If Michkov was from any other place than Russia, I`d take him Top5. Now when its uncertain about his team letting him leave, army etc. I would dare to draft him high as a GM. This isnt Russophobia - it;s uncertainy
 

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If Michkov was from any other place than Russia, I`d take him Top5. Now when its uncertain about his team letting him leave, army etc. I would dare to draft him high as a GM. This isnt Russophobia - it;s uncertainy

Claiming there’s a legitimate concern that SKA wont let him leave, or that he’ll be drafted into the military is borderline Russophobia.
Rest assured, none of that ridiculousness is likely….like at all.
 

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Claiming there’s a legitimate concern that SKA wont let him leave, or that he’ll be drafted into the military is borderline Russophobia.
None of that ridiculousness is likely, at all.
It wouldnt be the first time a Russian player rather stay in the KHL than comes over after beeing drafted. How is his english btw? Any knowledge?
 

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It wouldnt be the first time a Russian player rather stay in the KHL than comes over after beeing drafted. How is his english btw? Any knowledge?

That’s why teams should interview him. Get to know him as a person. Then assess if any red flags exist.

But to not draft him top 5 solely because he’s Russian is just giving in to fear-mongering.
 
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Claiming there’s a legitimate concern that SKA wont let him leave, or that he’ll be drafted into the military is borderline Russophobia.
Rest assured, none of that ridiculousness is likely….like at all.
How so? You think it's a coincidence Fedotov signed with the Flyers and was immediately dragged off to the Arctic circle by the army? That's some real weird timing they got there.

The uncertainty is real, especially now given Russia's 'situation'.
 

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That’s why teams should interview him. Get to know him as a person. Then assess if any red flags exist.

But to not draft him top 5 solely because he’s Russian is just giving in to fear-mongering.
Its looking more likely that when we have real concerns about language, availability and maybe conscription-issues, you call us Russophobics even when its actually real concerns were worrying about. No GM on earth wont draft a Russian if he is certain the player is better than others, he understands some english and would come over... Get a grip.
 

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How so? You think it's a coincidence Fedotov signed with the Flyers and was immediately dragged off to the Arctic circle by the army? That's some real weird timing they got there.

The uncertainty is real, especially now given Russia's 'situation'.

Its looking more likely that when we have real concerns about language, availability and maybe conscription-issues, you call us Russophobics even when its actually real concerns were worrying about. No GM on earth wont draft a Russian if he is certain the player is better than others, he understands some english and would come over... Get a grip.

The Fedotov situation has already been discussed in this thread. It's an extreme outlier occurance. How many other players have problems going to NHL? None.

By using similar reasoning someone could advise Michkov to avoid the NHL because of the Blackhawks sexual assault situation. I mean there IS some legitimate concern he'll be raped, right? Yep!
Unless Michkov is an abject idiot like Fedotov, he neednt worry about conscription. No player does.


Btw..Fedotov was never sent to the arctic circle. He's in Sertolovo.....occasionally helping out some Navy hockey team in St Petersburgh and is even allowed to keep up his goaltending training.
But hey, why ruin the narrative?
 
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