RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 4

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

If the Habs did draft this dude there'd be a massive contingent from Quebec, Eastern Ontario and the Maritimes heading over to Russia to make the Russian fight on another front.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I think they are similar level.

However, after training camp do you think the Hawks will send Bedard to a team that healthy scratches him and gives him 6 minutes in a game?

No, and that’s a perfectly good reason why a team would pick Bedard first. I would’ve picked Bedard first. What I don’t agree with is that Bedard is a totally different level of player than Michkov. I think Bedard is the safer prospect for a lot of the reasons that have been mentioned, but I think they are at the same level and Michkov could end up the better player, if everything goes well 10 years down the road.

 

[Fatass]

If the Habs did draft this dude there'd be a massive contingent from Quebec, Eastern Ontario and the Maritimes heading over to Russia to make the Russian fight on another front.

Didn’t a lot of Habs’ fans want Michkov and were disappointed their club drafted a different player instead?

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Didn’t a lot of Habs’ fans want Michkov and were disappointed their club drafted a different player instead?

Yes, that's why they'd march over there and start trying to liberate him.

Or be an absolute turncoat and say they knew he was no good, or some ignorant shit.

 

[Mrb1p]

Yes, that's why they'd march over there and start trying to liberate him.

Or be an absolute turncoat and say they knew he was no good, or some ignorant shit.

The 2nd group sounds like the lame cucks that come in here to roast Michkov. Pathetic.

Theres nothiby Michkov can do playing 6 minutes in 4 games. If youre supporting this you need to eat a sock.

 

[stevo61]

If the Habs did draft this dude there'd be a massive contingent from Quebec, Eastern Ontario and the Maritimes heading over to Russia to make the Russian fight on another front.

Nah they would just be fighting the same battle Philly fans are fighting right now with opposing fan bases. Only difference would be the sheer number of posters

 

[SomeDude]

If the Habs did draft this dude there'd be a massive contingent from Quebec, Eastern Ontario and the Maritimes heading over to Russia to make the Russian fight on another front.

I think they’d be more concerned with his French lessons than his on ice performance.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I think they’d be more concerned with his French lessons than his on ice performance.

Nah, they've learned and relaxed on that requirement quite a lot.

Hughes doesn't speak flawless French and still needs assistance on some words and Gorton doesn't speak French at all.

 

[Garl]

Michkov doesn't struggle at the pro level. He did great at this pro level just last season. His coach just isn't playing him.

Fundamental mistake, of the same sort as "he would have been 4th best forward for SKA LAST year"
He did decent on last years horrible Sochi team. Doesnt mean much, and its a typical story for KHL, that a player scores for a bottom team, but then, dissapears on a strong one

 

[Garl]

It’s that’s the case where the KHL is a bad league David Reinbacher is going to be awful considering he plays in a league worse than the KHL.

In 2023, people who say that KHL is better than NLA are doing it based on the reputation of the past than on reflection of the present.
Still a good league of course

 

[Garl]

You can be an AHL star and still never show anything in the NHL. KHL stars usually do pretty good in the NHL. Like Panarin, Kaprizov, Kuzmenko, Gavrikov, Zub. And sometimes not even stars (Mikheyev, Barabanov).

Shipachyov, Gusev, Plotnikov, Golyshev, Tkachyov, Grigorenko, Jaskin, Shumakov, Lehtonen, Nesterov list to be continued

PS Mikheyev and Barabanov were WC players, Ilya in particular was a top player on a contender

 

[Kaladin]

Fundamental mistake, of the same sort as "he would have been 4th best forward for SKA LAST year"
He did decent on last years horrible Sochi team. Doesnt mean much, and its a typical story for KHL, that a player scores for a bottom team, but then, dissapears on a strong one

The question was whether or not he could play in this league. By definition he played and played well in this league just last year. It's not like he's playing and we can tell he's playing like shit. He's not even being offered the opportunity to play.

 

[FrodoBeggins]

Michkov, who last year did not make it into the main team of SKA, does not play - everyone is discussing it. The first center of the team, Marat Khusnutdinov, does not play or plays in the 3rd line, no one cares.

 

[Doodootheclown]

Michkov, who last year did not make it into the main team of SKA, does not play - everyone is discussing it. The first center of the team, Marat Khusnutdinov, does not play or plays in the 3rd line, no one cares.

Seems like a missed opportunity. Could have posted in his thread and bumped it to the top.

 

[NyQuil]

Michkov, who last year did not make it into the main team of SKA, does not play - everyone is discussing it. The first center of the team, Marat Khusnutdinov, does not play or plays in the 3rd line, no one cares.

And yet here you are in the Michkov thread.

 

[Three On Zero]

The KHL isn’t going to waste its time on players who are eventually going to leave, the treatment of Michkov is kind of par for the course and is going as expected.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Maybe Habs brass knew all his coaches hate his guts , weird spot to be in as a habs fan , since I love hockey I want Michkov to be amazing and a 100 point forward . But at the expense of my team not taking him not so much

 

[Dirtyf1ghter]

Shipachyov, Gusev, Plotnikov, Golyshev, Tkachyov, Grigorenko, Jaskin, Shumakov, Lehtonen, Nesterov list to be continued

PS Mikheyev and Barabanov were WC players, Ilya in particular was a top player on a contender

The guys you mention are more talented than a lot of NHL players. It's just that they don't have the sufficient level in relation to their offensive profile. Seen from France, every hockey follower know that Stephane Da Costa was stronger than Pierre-Edouard Bellemare and Antoine Roussel. However, he did not have the level to be in a producer role and does not have the profile to enter a bottom 6.

The NHL does not have the top 750 players in the world. Only the 750 players best suited to the roles granted. Obviously, most of the top 750 are there but many players who spent time in the NHL in a defensive role have difficulty breaking into Europe beyond their role as nag.

Anyway, salaries are higher in the KHL than in the AHL. A KHL star earns more than a 4th line offensive player or a 6th NHL defenseman.

 

[Fatass]

The guys you mention are more talented than a lot of NHL players. It's just that they don't have the sufficient level in relation to their offensive profile. Seen from France, every hockey follower know that Stephane Da Costa was stronger than Pierre-Edouard Bellemare and Antoine Roussel. However, he did not have the level to be in a producer role and does not have the profile to enter a bottom 6.

The NHL does not have the top 750 players in the world. Only the 750 players best suited to the roles granted. Obviously, most of the top 750 are there but many players who spent time in the NHL in a defensive role have difficulty breaking into Europe beyond their role as nag.

Anyway, salaries are higher in the KHL than in the AHL. A KHL star earns more than a 4th line offensive player or a 6th NHL defenseman.

Is the NHL minimum salary 775 k? What is the salary of the top KHL guys, and in what currency are they paid?

 

[Dirtyf1ghter]

Is the NHL minimum salary 775 k? What is the salary of the top KHL guys, and in what currency are they paid?

3 millions

 

[Fatass]

3 millions

In which currency? US dollars?

 

[Zine]

In which currency? US dollars?

Taxes and escrow devastate NHL salaries. It’s 40-50% in most cases.
An NHL minimum of $775K is about $425k in take-home pay.

Russia has a flat tax of 13%. Top KHLers earn the equivalent of $700k - $1 million USD post taxes, most salaries are reported as net earnings. There are also opportunities for unlimited bonuses.
Obviously this all fluxuates based on strength of currencies.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

We'll see this guy in the NHL in 2032. He'll sign as a UFA, have 2-3 100+ point seasons and then go back to Russia.

 

[Dirtyf1ghter]

In which currency? US dollars?

Sorry. It was in rubles. 750 000K for top 100 1 to 1.5 million in US dollars for top 20.

 

[Fatass]

Taxes and escrow devastate NHL salaries. It’s 40-50% in most cases.
An NHL minimum of $775K is about $425k in take-home pay.

Russia has a flat tax of 13%. Top KHLers earn the equivalent of $700k - $1 million USD post taxes, most salaries are reported as net earnings. There are also opportunities for unlimited bonuses.
Obviously this all fluxuates based on strength of currencies.

So what’s Michkov making? I’m thinking with the elc bonus structure he’d be making five time more in the NHL than in the KHL. And he’d get out of Russia.