RW/LW Klim Kostin (2017, 31st, STL, traded to EDM)

[Atas2000]

How do you figure that?

Multiple reasons that add up to notbeing with Edmonton.

1.Wouldn't be selected 1OA

2.Even if he's somehow end up with Edmonton as a draft pick not being 1OA he'd be a different kind of player wih a different agent.

I'm not arguing that Edmonton aren't Yak killers. They are, they killed two. Yakimov is god awful after his return to Russia. His stint with the Edmonton organzation didn't do him any favors obviously.

The thing is Yakupov should have finished his studies of russian hockey. Instead he spent time in the CHL learning what? Speedy game? Physicality? That's teachable at any age to an extent. And he has speed and can be physical enough.

What's the narrative on him? Low hockey IQ? Guess what he'd learn in Russia first and foremost?

 

[Daximus]

He played with Sarnia and they are more known for having strong defensive oriented teams. So if anything they likely tried to get him to learn more of a two way game. Which sometimes doesn't go over well with Russians. The interesting thing is he was fine until his 2nd season with Edmonton. Then he fell off a cliff. I agree though he never should have been a 1OA the all around talent was never there for it. Weak draft class and a kid who managed to do well in Sarnias system.

 

[7even]

Multiple reasons that add up to notbeing with Edmonton.

1.Wouldn't be selected 1OA

2.Even if he's somehow end up with Edmonton as a draft pick not being 1OA he'd be a different kind of player wih a different agent.

I'm not arguing that Edmonton aren't Yak killers. They are, they killed two. Yakimov is god awful after his return to Russia. His stint with the Edmonton organzation didn't do him any favors obviously.

The thing is Yakupov should have finished his studies of russian hockey. Instead he spent time in the CHL learning what? Speedy game? Physicality? That's teachable at any age to an extent. And he has speed and can be physical enough.

What's the narrative on him? Low hockey IQ? Guess what he'd learn in Russia first and foremost?

Yeah too bad no intelligent players ever come out of the CHL

 

[JA]

Tonight was Game 1 of the 2016 Subway Super Series. Klim Kostin wore #11 and played on a line with German Rubtsov.

Kostin played a powerful, physical game; he demonstrated his ability to carry the puck with confidence and use his frame to protect the puck. He certainly skates well, although he wasn't the fastest skater on the ice today -- he has good, but not elite straight-line speed; he makes up for this with impressive agility. He definitely possesses creativity in his game, and uses his strength well to bodycheck and forecheck. This is a gritty, hard-nosed player. He is also rather shifty, so he is quite mobile going up the ice; his game isn't all north-south.

That said, tonight he struggled with his release. His timing appeared to be off. He had a very delayed reaction on numerous occasions upon receiving the puck, and wasn't getting pucks on net.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Was good to see Kostin out of exile, just affirmed what I liked about him. That gritty power game with skill isn't easy to find. It's clear though that he desperately needs ice time, he needs to play and a lot.

 

[kp61c]

sounds like a more creative version of nichushkin with worse finishing abilities, and nichushkin has no shot whatsoever

 

[enj92]

sounds like a more creative version of nichushkin with worse finishing abilities, and nichushkin has no shot whatsoever

Wrong. He has excellent wrist shot and I have no clue why he didn't use it more often.

 

[Daximus]

Daximus

Wrong. He has excellent wrist shot and I have no clue why he didn't use it more often.

Nichushkin actually got a fair bit of shots off he just had terrible accuracy. He's a prime example of a Russian trained player that just was not cut out for the NHL. He's more of a big ice player and that is fine. We'll see how Kostin can make the transition. He's going to have to get quicker in his decision making. He'll have far less time to operate in the NHL.

 

[Fantomas]

I like Kostin waaaay more than Nichushkin.

Nichushkin always had just the one move. Very limited player in terms of decision making and creativity.

I don't understand why he was so highly touted. I know he was big and could skate, but if you have no tricks up your sleeve you're toast.

 

[enj92]

Nichushkin actually got a fair bit of shots off he just had terrible accuracy. He's a prime example of a Russian trained player that just was not cut out for the NHL. He's more of a big ice player and that is fine. We'll see how Kostin can make the transition. He's going to have to get quicker in his decision making. He'll have far less time to operate in the NHL.

Actually Kostin has good accuracy and very fast release on his shot. His shooting abilities are nothing like Nichushkin's, and his playing style too. He has early comparisons with Tarasenko, I think this ones are more accurate in terms of his style.

 

[Caser]

I really don't understand those Nichushkin comparisons, different type of players, imo.

 

[Atas2000]

Yeah too bad no intelligent players ever come out of the CHL

And where did you find THAT in my post?

While you obviously still don't realize how dfferent russian hockey is actually. That doesn't mean canadian hockey is bad. But if you learn say buisness administration for years but then all of a sudden have to make a degree in international law, you might be in trouble.

 

[Atas2000]

I really don't understand those Nichushkin comparisons, different type of players, imo.

Not necessarily. Both big right wingers with drive to the net, but some shooting troubles. Kostin has time though to develop better than Nichushkin and also at home. Nichushkin is just coming into hs own now and still has a lot of work cut out for him to get rid of the weaknesses in his game. Kostin is indeed a similar type and even those weaknesses are similar(shot, skating). He should work on his game now. HE has plenty of tme still.

 

[Fantomas]

Nichushkin is an extreme North-South player with size. Prototypical. In the world juniors he showed promises of being a Rick Nash-type of player.

Kostin does that sometimes, but he'll also spot a linemate and make a nice passing play. He is a good skater though, Atas.

 

[Atas2000]

Nichushkin is an extreme North-South player with size. Prototypical. In the world juniors he showed promises of being a Rick Nash-type of player.

Kostin does that sometimes, but he'll also spot a linemate and make a nice passing play. He is a good skater though, Atas.

He is a good skater, not an excellent one. We're talking about a considered to be top 5 talent at least.

 

[Phry]

Nichushkin is an extreme North-South player with size. Prototypical. In the world juniors he showed promises of being a Rick Nash-type of player.

Kostin does that sometimes, but he'll also spot a linemate and make a nice passing play. He is a good skater though, Atas.

And like Rick Nash; Nichushkin gets semi-injured and disappears for stretches. Shame he went back. Lots of talent to work with in Dallas. Ruff is a tough coach to play for.

Hopefully he's more comfortable in Russia and getting his game back to where it once was.


Kostin looked good but not great. Shouldn't be ranked #3.. but he's fun to watch and has great poise.

Had the impression from highlights that he was just a perimeter player. Looked like the opposite against the WHL. Hopefully we see him get more comfortable and start pushing his game against the QMJHL and OHL.

 

[Atas2000]

And like Rick Nash; Nichushkin gets semi-injured and disappears for stretches. Shame he went back. Lots of talent to work with in Dallas. Ruff is a tough coach to play for.

Hopefully he's more comfortable in Russia and getting his game back to where it once was.


Kostin looked good but not great. Shouldn't be ranked #3.. but he's fun to watch and has great poise.

Had the impression from highlights that he was just a perimeter player. Looked like the opposite against the WHL. Hopefully we see him get more comfortable and start pushing his game against the QMJHL and OHL.

Dallas seems to have a tendency to semi-injure players...

Ruff hasn't done well with Nichushkin. It's a simple fact.

He(Nichushkin) never was anywhere else. He looks great in Russia. Ruff just doesn't need that on his team.

Perimeter player on Kostin was another narrative from people who didn't watch him play.

He is 18. There is so much time and room for improvement still.

 

[Caser]

 

[93LEAFS]

Interesting, not sure how much legs there are to this though.

 

[malkinfan]

Bragin already said no. BTW the whole Russian offense is blowing up that tournament, Checkovich, Lipanov, Svechnikov, Alexyev, Kostin etc... Goaltending is out to lunch though

 

[Caser]

 

[Caser]

Finally scored in VHL, hope that gives him a confidence boost.

 

[Frk It]

Can anyone say if he plays mostly wing or center? Does he play the type of game that could transition to center?

 

[wings5]

Can anyone say if he plays mostly wing or center? Does he play the type of game that could transition to center?

He's a pure winger.

 

[93LEAFS]