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RW Kasperi Kapanen (2014, 22nd, PIT; traded to TOR)

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Erikfromfin said:
Well i dont know how he can have underwhelming tournament, probaply most hits and driven to the net than any other forward in this tournament. Sure his gotto learn to share the puck more and to play with his linemates. He was better than Eichel today anyway.
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You think so? I see it differently, and I have to think you are in the minority. And I wasn't even impressed by Eichel so that says alot about K2.

Jake Virtanen absolutely has been better at satisfying your criteria.
 
Anthony Mauro said:
You think so? I see it differently, and I have to think you are in the minority. And I wasn't even impressed by Eichel so that says alot about K2.
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Eh, he was quite easily the better player but mostly because Eichel was pretty bad.
 
Anthony Mauro said:
So he's capping off a poor season, with an underwhelming tournament of players his own age or younger.

For the 2-3 nice rushes he made showing off his speed and puckhandling, he had double the selfish, bonehead plays.

The skill is there, the will and head for the game...not so much.
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He had a poor season? I'm not sure that's true when you examine the details.
 
rt said:
He had a poor season? I'm not sure that's true when you examine the details.
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Yeah I wouldn't say it was a poor season, but he admittedly hasn't wowed anyway. Most of the blame goes to his team for lack of production.

Problem is when you also come to this tournament and don't have the production expected who do you blame?
 
rt said:
He had a poor season? I'm not sure that's true when you examine the details.
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You're probably going off of the 14 points in the Finnish league as somewhat of a success for a young player. What are the other details you are going by? Regardless of the points, there was a negative vibe around his entire season IE his play not impressing any other than some patriotic Finns.

On a bigger stage, he's showing now that he's an unfulfilled promise and a legend's son.
 
Anthony Mauro said:
You're probably going off of the 14 points in the Finnish league as somewhat of a success for a young player. What are the other details you are going by? Regardless of the points, there was a negative vibe around his entire season IE his play not impressing any other than some patriotic Finns.

On a bigger stage, he's showing now that he's an unfulfilled promise and a legend's son.
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I've never seen the kid play. I meant the details behind is seemingly low-ish point totals for KalPa. I understand he's not having an impressive tourney. I just don't understand what was so poor about his season until this tournament started, that's all. I'm asking you. :) Haha. What was poor about it? Were you able to watch him much playing for KalPa? Like I said, I've seen him play in zero hockey games.

Also, Sami Kapanen was a fun player and a fan favorite, but let's not call him a legend. Haha. :)
 
Anthony Mauro said:
You're probably going off of the 14 points in the Finnish league as somewhat of a success for a young player. What are the other details you are going by? Regardless of the points, there was a negative vibe around his entire season IE his play not impressing any other than some patriotic Finns.

On a bigger stage, he's showing now that he's an unfulfilled promise and a legend's son.
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KalPa's record is 3rd worst in the history of SM-liiga since they adopted 3 points for a win system. They sold all of their best players away in January/February so Kapanen has been basically left alone. He was night in, night out the best player on our team.

He's had underwhelming tournament though. I was fully expecting him to dominate in these games. He shows flashes but he's been extremely inconsistent and he looks disinterested on the ice. Makes me think if he has some sort of injury problems because he wasn't like that in the Finnish League.
 
glassbangers said:
KalPa's record is 3rd worst in the history of SM-liiga since they adopted 3 points for a win system. They sold all of their best players away in January/February so Kapanen has been basically left alone. He was night in, night out the best player on our team.

He's had underwhelming tournament though. I was fully expecting him to dominate in these games. He shows flashes but he's been extremely inconsistent and he looks disinterested on the ice. Makes me think if he has some sort of injury problems because he wasn't like that in the Finnish League.
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Hopefully this changes now that Urama actually decided to get his brain out off his... and give Saarela a chance to play in the line up. Holding up the skill players in a tournament like this is beyound comprehension. Can just hope and pray this guy has nothing to do with Junior coaching after the season is over. Saarela should be complimenting Kapanen quite nice so he won't have to find those openings on the ice all alone, like in the game prior to Finland - USA.
 
Anthony Mauro said:
You're probably going off of the 14 points in the Finnish league as somewhat of a success for a young player. What are the other details you are going by? Regardless of the points, there was a negative vibe around his entire season IE his play not impressing any other than some patriotic Finns.

On a bigger stage, he's showing now that he's an unfulfilled promise and a legend's son.
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He's been in the top 20 by pretty much on every scouting agency for the entire year, and in the top-10 on several lists. Negative vibe? Seems like he's been impressing some other people too than just patriotic finns...

And now he's an unfulfilled promise after 3 not so stellar games?
 
Kasperi has clear problem and it is mindset. I've seen the games and there is too much primadonna elements in the play. If he looses the puck he just takes the stick on two hands, straightens he's back arrogantly and sees if the others can make up for it.

When he goes to the rush, skating looks sloppy and he is waiting for perfect pass. When the pass comes to skate he doesn't really even try he's best to controll it. If it doesn't bounch from skate to stick he again acts arrogantly. If the pass comes to stick he is not completely ready for it. He stays with the puck too long some times, doesn't play simple and put the puck on/in the net.

He isn't playing with heart at all. It's horrible. In one power play he even stand still in same position for over half min like I've seen Ovechkin do. Didin't really pay out.

I would bench him and see if it helps him starting to play 100% when he gets he's next shift. And my team from Liiga is KalPa. Playing in KalPa really does't help him from all the teams. He's dad owns the whole team so he probably has used to be allowed to "show he's mind" in the team there too.

Second round pick. Finnish hockey doesn't need prospects with attitude like that tbh. No reason to defend that kind of effort no matter how "nationalist" you are. Unless he changes hes attitude he deserves nothing more. He completely lacks he's dads work ethics. Laughable.
 
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QnebO said:
Second round pick. Finnish hockey doesn't need prospects with attitude like that tbh. No reason to defend that kind of effort no matter how "nationalist" you are. Unless he changes hes attitude he deserves nothing more. He completely lacks he's dads work ethics. Laughable.
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I agree his attitude has to get better.

But then again what kind of players have we lacked throughout our history? Goal scorers, and sometimes they can be selfish. This is just part of him being young. If that selfishness is a sign that he is confident in his abilities, that could take him very far. He'll go through the tough process of NA game and it'll serve as a wake-up call when he realizes he still has a lot work to do.

Potential he has can't be denied. Im willing to give him time, we need a player like him.
 
LOL at being too selfish according some. You know who the most selfish players are from Finland? Selanne and Olli Jokinen and they both were much more selfish on the ice than Kapanen. You need to be very selfish to be one of the best doesn't matter what sport. If anything many of the finnish top prospect are not selfish enough.
 
Tuomaz said:
LOL at being too selfish according some. You know who the most selfish players are from Finland? Selanne and Olli Jokinen and they both were much more selfish on the ice than Kapanen. You need to be very selfish to be one of the best doesn't matter what sport. If anything many of the finnish top prospect are not selfish enough.
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He's just selfish at wrong times, holding on to the puck when it's not needed. Kapanen at this point looks a lot of like Juhamatti Aaltonen. He needs to know when it's time to shoot or when to pass. Of course unlike Aaltonen Kapanen is still very young and can change his game.
 
Tuomaz said:
LOL at being too selfish according some. You know who the most selfish players are from Finland? Selanne and Olli Jokinen and they both were much more selfish on the ice than Kapanen. You need to be very selfish to be one of the best doesn't matter what sport. If anything many of the finnish top prospect are not selfish enough.
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Kapanen sounds more like an arrogant player rather than selfish. Being selfish can be a good thing as you mentioned, but arrogance wont take you far.
 
Tuomaz said:
LOL at being too selfish according some. You know who the most selfish players are from Finland? Selanne and Olli Jokinen and they both were much more selfish on the ice than Kapanen. You need to be very selfish to be one of the best doesn't matter what sport. If anything many of the finnish top prospect are not selfish enough.
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takes the stick on two hands, straightens he's back arrogantly and sees if the others can make up for it.

I meant that sort of mindset problems. And holding the puck for himself too long when its absolutely no use and ends up screwing the whole attack.

It is different if you like to shoot alot and can dangle with the puck to get yourself free. He could be that player. But now he tries to hold it every single time, it just makes it easier for defender. It is just like a box out training for D, staying between him and net, giving him room in the corners, and they can be sure he's not going to pass it anywhere in time. Sounds strange? Well that's how it has been in these games. It's more just arrogance and cockyness that I'm whining about. It's so sad to see, because he could actually do alot better, Im sure about it. One player who really should get some coaching from Raivo Summanen.

I wish he one day is selfish, fast shooter, but not arrogant.
 
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He's still a 17 year old kid, almost every kid in this draft probably has maturing to do.

I like alot of things about him, highly skilled, dynamic skill with his mix of shooting & playmaking ability, his skating ability, he can play a two-way game.

I also like that he is a Finnish prospect, Finnish hockey has really come along, and he looks to be the next good young Finnish prospect in a long line of them.

He's got high upside, but even if he doesn't max out he could still be a useful 50 point offensive player with a two-way game.

Ehlers has become my favorite for our pick now instead of him, but he's still my #2 choice, and thats more to do with Ehlers than him.
 
Hold your horses. He had a bad season and really bad U20 tournament. He should drop to the second round. Bad attitude and a lazy player. No leadership qualities.
 
satchmo said:
Hold your horses. He had a bad season and really bad U20 tournament. He should drop to the second round. Bad attitude and a lazy player. No leadership qualities.
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Ermm... he was injured and didn't play u20 wjc?
 
His problem might be that nobody in the Kalpa organisation has the balls to say anything negative to him. I hope that he would go to CHL next season, those coaches would propably get his attitude fixed in no time.
 
teddy83 said:
His problem might be that nobody in the Kalpa organisation has the balls to say anything negative to him. I hope that he would go to CHL next season, those coaches would propably get his attitude fixed in no time.
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It would be best for him to play in AHL next year but doubt he has balls to do it like Ristolainen did.
 
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