RW Kaapo Kakko - TPS, Liiga (2019 Draft) Part 5

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With Kakkos performance these three games it makes you wonder how good he would be on a line with rantanen and barkov or Laine. Some top skilled guys to capitalize on the passes kakko makes, like there on OT he just didnt get a team m8 positioning them selvs at a dangerous position..
 
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Why 20 min per game? This is long tournament and Kakko is rookie player. I am sure that Kakko will get much more ice time later if he can keep going on same level.
Because 20 minutes is a good amount and he could play that much in Liiga.

As much ice time as possible for the most points, etc.
 
After 16 years on HFBoards I think I found my favorite comment ever from the Hughes thread:

"The funny thing is, if you ignore the scouts' opinions and just go with traditional wisdom, my opinions on Hughes aren't even very outlandish"

How does one even respond to that?
I guess I'll reply on this here, not sure why you talked about this on Devils' Jack Hughes thread, though - You know I can't reply about this on there as it'd be Hughes bashing. If you have something to ask about what I say, I'd suggest you ask me about it.

Traditionally, in NHL you want players who have great size, are good along the boards, are strong, have a mean streak and are good at operating in tight places. That's what I mean. It has absolutely nothing to do with scouts saying anything. This also, as a concept, is a general statement, about no specific player. We are seeing the value in these attributes in playoffs even this very year. We saw the value in these attributes when Washington Capitals won the Stanley Cup last year.

Of course, using those values, Kakko rates very highly. And, indeed, there's absolutely nothing controversial about me valuing these things in a player, either. As you're very aware, these indeed are very highly regarded attributes in NHL prospects.
 
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The start of this tournament has only strengthtened my belief of Kakko playing a full NHL season next season and Jack Hughes playing only some games if not any in the NHL. Jack Hughes is a very talented kid too but he needs to work on his physique for at least a year and then we'll see how well he can hang with fully grown players. If Kakko was American there would be no question who would go first in this draft. I wouldn't want to be in New Jersey's shoes making the selection. On the other hand good for the Rangers fans.

Kakko really looks like some kind of Foppa reincarnation. Any time he got the puck today he was a beast. Hard to ask more of him. His linemates couldn't put the empty netter passes in again.
 
Why 20 min per game? This is long tournament and Kakko is rookie player. I am sure that Kakko will get much more ice time later if he can keep going on same level.
I agree. No need to play him 20 minutes a game for every game. Save those minutes for the elimination games.
 
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The start of this tournament has only strengthtened my belief of Kakko playing a full NHL season next season and Jack Hughes playing only some games if not any in the NHL. Jack Hughes is a very talented kid too but he needs to work on his physique for at least a year and then we'll see how well he can hang with fully grown players. If Kakko was American there would be no question who would go first in this draft. I wouldn't want to be in New Jersey's shoes making the selection. On the other hand good for the Rangers fans.

Kakko really looks like some kind of Foppa reincarnation. Any time he got the puck today he was a beast. Hard to ask more of him. His linemates couldn't put the empty netter passes in again.
Calm down. Both will play full seasons in the NHL.

Devils have absolutely nothing to lose. Hischier played there from the start also. Hughes will be there for the PR reasons alone even if he did struggle at the beginning.

Crazy talk.
 
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Calm down. Both will play full seasons in the NHL.

Devils have absolutely nothing to lose. Hischier played there from the start also. Hughes will be there for the PR reasons alone.

Crazy talk.

I didn't claim otherwise. Both will play NHL seasons. Other plays a full season next season and other doesn't.

Jack Hughes is the bigger question mark here. I think many of us here can see that. Jack Hughes is a monster vs juniors but I haven't seen that yet with grown players. With Kakko I have seen that.
 
Because 20 minutes is a good amount and he could play that much in Liiga.

As much ice time as possible for the most points, etc.
These games are a bit higher in intensity compared to Liiga. I've liked Jalonen's approach of getting him used to the pace and it seems to be working very well. Getting more icetime than he is currently means he would start taking d-zone starts, I dont think that's necessary at all.
 
These games are a bit higher in intensity compared to Liiga. I've liked Jalonen's approach of getting him used to the pace and it seems to be working very well. Getting more icetime than he is currently means he would start taking d-zone starts, I dont think that's necessary at all.
Oh, his current ice time is good of course. It was a bit over 18 minutes. But 11min was a little silly.
 
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I didn't claim otherwise. Both will play NHL seasons. Other plays a full season next season and other doesn't.

Jack Hughes is the bigger question mark here. I think many of us here can see that. Jack Hughes is a monster vs juniors but I haven't seen that yet with grown players. With Kakko I have seen that.
What? You just did. I said both will play full NHL seasons - which they both will.

You said Hughes won't play a full NHL season. So yes, you actually did claim otherwise.
 
I was only able to watch second period while at work and that kid is just something else.

I did watch him quite a bit in Liiga and I didn't expect him to be this good at this tournament. He can be dominant on ice. I can only imagine how happy people are at rangers management
 
What? You just did. I said both will play full NHL seasons - which they both will.

You said Hughes won't play a full NHL season. So yes, you actually did claim otherwise.

I don't know what to say to that? Get glasses or learn to read. Read closely and focus. Don't try to make me say something I didn't say. I was talking about next season. NEXT understand?
 
Oh, his current ice time is good of course. It was a bit over 18 minutes. But 11min was a little silly.
Just a slight nitpick, he played 15:13 in Canada game and 12:35 in Slovakia game. (According to IIHF)

But i'm fine with it, Jalonen clearly knows what he's doing and rewarding him with more icetime when he can see that Kakko can handle it easily.
 
Just a slight nitpick, he played 15:13 in Canada game and 12:35 in Slovakia game. (According to IIHF)

But i'm fine with it, Jalonen clearly knows what he's doing and rewarding him with more icetime when he can see that Kakko can handle it easily.
Huh, those got updated? It was 10:53 or something as recently as yesterday for Slovakia.
 
I don't know what to say to that? Get glasses or learn to read. Read closely and focus. Don't try to make me say something I didn't say. I was talking about next season. NEXT understand?
"Other plays a full season next season and other doesn't."

That is what you said. Care to elaborate?

Or how does that not imply that Hughes won't play a full NHL season next season?

"The start of this tournament has only strengthtened my belief of Kakko playing a full NHL season next season and Jack Hughes playing only some games if not any in the NHL."

That is what you said first. It implies that even more. I replied to that: "Both of them will play full seasons in the NHL". ...next season.

I think it's you who needs to read calmly.
 
"Other plays a full season next season and other doesn't."

That is what you said. Care to elaborate?

Or how does that not imply that Hughes won't play a full NHL season next season?

"The start of this tournament has only strengthtened my belief of Kakko playing a full NHL season next season and Jack Hughes playing only some games if not any in the NHL."

That is what you said first. It implies that even more.
Why exactly can he not think that, by the way? What's with people policing what others can think?

Just so you know, while I'm quoting this post, it's to your last one.
 
"Other plays a full season next season and other doesn't."

That is what you said. Care to elaborate?

Or how does that not imply that Hughes won't play a full NHL season next season?

"The start of this tournament has only strengthtened my belief of Kakko playing a full NHL season next season and Jack Hughes playing only some games if not any in the NHL."

That is what you said first. It implies that even more.

I am going to mute you now. Something is not right with you and this is distracting to other posters. You read wrong, accept it. Don't have to act like some kindergarten kid. Muted, I'm done with you.
 
The start of this tournament has only strengthtened my belief of Kakko playing a full NHL season next season and Jack Hughes playing only some games if not any in the NHL. Jack Hughes is a very talented kid too but he needs to work on his physique for at least a year and then we'll see how well he can hang with fully grown players. If Kakko was American there would be no question who would go first in this draft. I wouldn't want to be in New Jersey's shoes making the selection. On the other hand good for the Rangers fans.

Kakko really looks like some kind of Foppa reincarnation. Any time he got the puck today he was a beast. Hard to ask more of him. His linemates couldn't put the empty netter passes in again.
The poster "Mestaruus" implies here that Jack Hughes won't play a full NHL season next season.

I responded to him that Jack Hughes absolutely will play a full NHL season next season.

The poster "Mestaruus" goes nuts and starts personal insults abour reading comprehensions. Stay classy.
 
Why exactly can he not think that, by the way? What's with people policing what others can think?

Just so you know, while I'm quoting this post, it's to your last one.
He can think what ever he wants. He can think that the Earth is flat for example.

This is a message board and I can also reply to his opinions if I disagree with them, which I did.
 
It's pretty weird, isn't it? That a u-18 tournament where Kakko didn't even participate... Well, whatever. Not very surprising.

When did we last see a prospect this dominant with the puck, anyway? Eric Lindros?

I was too young to really have any kind of accurate recollection when Lindros played in the WHC and it was about the time when I really begun watching hockey. So if I saw him then maybe yes, ha. It's kind of funny cause I remember being so much into World Championships back then like it was the world and NHL was just like a distant dream somewhere far away. I remember when Nieminen missed the shootout and Robitaille buried us back in the -94, it felt like the world grumbled and that feeling of loss felt overpowering. I don't get that sentimental nowadays though and how these games end don't really mean all that much, but I cannot but help to feel ecstatic when watching Kakko. How he carries himself out there is almost surreal.

He played 18:46 in this game (the highest of any Finnish forward), so it's safe to say that Jalonen is steadily increasing his minutes on the ice.

It's understandable that he probably didn't think a 18-year old kid would be ready to carry the biggest responsibility, until proven otherwise.

I honestly thought it was less, but like I said I didn't check. Then again we had some friends over that had just returned from Portugal so that was a bit of distraction. Jalonen did fail to properly utilize him in the overtime though. Kakko should have been on the ice when the puck dropped instead of just getting the one shift. When you're playing 3 vs 3 it's all about skill. So when it went to OT me and my friend immediately had some kind of mutual agreement that it was game over for Finland unless Kakko pulled a rabbit out of the hat (which he nearly did).

At least it's a good sign if he's minutes are actually going up and he gets rewarded for these efforts. With that said, I wonder how frustrating it must be to throw saucer passes and see your team mates fail time and time again. Against Slovakia it was Jokiharju that couldn't cash out on the empty netter and today it was someone else. Kakko could have something like 5+3 by now if he wasn't a passenger in the a train of full of guys with no clutch - the good old Finish curse in hockey. No wonder he changed from pass-first to shoot-first at some stage of the season.
 
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Kakko and Hughes are both definitely playing full NHL seasons, regardless of whether Hughes is physically ready or not.

Kakko looked incredible again. Amazing vision.
 
Imma go post a couple of these offtopic underhands in the huge thread. Oh wait. Thats suicide.

:naughty::sarcasm::laugh:

Gdamn phones and a veterans fingers.

:smoke:
 

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