RW Brock Boeser - North Dakota, NCAA (2015, 23rd, VAN)

[Yosemite Sam]

Not sure why he got a penalty shot on that last goal.

Cause he's BROCK BOESER, *****!

 

[nowhereman]

lol no

It's not that far off of a comment, now that Matthews, Laine, Puljujärvi, Strome, Marner, etc. are in the NHL. Pierre McGuire said he would have been a top 5 in last year's draft.

I struggle to think of 3 drafted prospects I'd take ahead of him.

 

[Ban Hammered]

Not sure why he got a penalty shot on that last goal.

That was a horrid call. If that's a new standard for a penalty shot...a **** ton will be called.

 

[clunk]

And miss our Presidents Trophy parade?

Your funeral.

FTFY.

The route is already in the works.

 

[Elias Pettersson]

It's weird that people say Keller is better than Boeser. Maybe at the time of each of their drafts.
So you guys think Keller will beat Boeser's freshman 60 points in 42 games?
I doubt it.

 

[93LEAFS]

It's weird that people say Keller is better than Boeser. Maybe at the time of each of their drafts.
So you guys think Keller will beat Boeser's freshman 60 points in 42 games?
I doubt it.

He's also a year younger right now, and people are projecting prospects. Production isn't the only thing that matters. Maybe Keller has a weaker NCAA year but a much stronger WJC? I don't think its definitive, but I'd take Keller over Boeser in a vacuum.

 

[portamoral]

It's weird that people say Keller is better than Boeser. Maybe at the time of each of their drafts.
So you guys think Keller will beat Boeser's freshman 60 points in 42 games?
I doubt it.

keller is on another level pal

 

[Elias Pettersson]

He's also a year younger right now, and people are projecting prospects. Production isn't the only thing that matters. Maybe Keller has a weaker NCAA year but a much stronger WJC? I don't think its definitive, but I'd take Keller over Boeser in a vacuum.

I know he's a year younger. That's why I compared him against Boeser's 18 year old season instead of him right now.

 

[Elias Pettersson]

keller is on another level pal

Yeah, a lower level bud

 

[Josepho]

keller is on another level pal

I like Keller... a lot. I wanted him at 5 and I think he's going to be an absolute stud in this league. But no, this isn't true. If Keller has a Draft +1 year like Boeser's, Arizona should be ecstatic. It would take something around 1.8 PPG to consider him "on another level". As of now, the only thing that suggests that Keller is on "another level" is draft position.

 

[93LEAFS]

I know he's a year younger. That's why I compared him against Boeser's 18 year old season instead of him right now.

The thing is, Keller appears suited for the direction the league is going, which is high-end skating. Boeser tends to be a much more stationary player who kills people with his shot. He doesn't need to match or better Boeser's production from last year to be the better prospect. He's also on a 53 point pace playing on the 2nd line. It is not like they have identical skill sets. It'd make sense if you were trying to compare him to Kieffer Bellows.

I wouldn't say they are worlds apart, they are probably in the same tier, but I'd take Keller right now.

 

[portamoral]

Yeah, a lower level bud

easy boyyyy

but srsly keller is a much better hockey player

 

[Orca Smash]

The thing is, Keller appears suited for the direction the league is going, which is high-end skating. Boeser tends to be a much more stationary player who kills people with his shot. He doesn't need to match or better Boeser's production from last year to be the better prospect. He's also on a 53 point pace playing on the 2nd line. It is not like they have identical skill sets. It'd make sense if you were trying to compare him to Kieffer Bellows.

I wouldn't say they are worlds apart, they are probably in the same tier, but I'd take Keller right now.

So keller is suited for the direction you think the league is going (better skating, and not a quick good release) and he doesnt need to match boesers production but he is a better prospect? Thats your opinion, i just dont know i agree with the logic.

 

[93LEAFS]

So keller is suited for the direction you think the league is going (better skating, and not a quick good release) and he doesnt need to match boesers production but he is a better prospect?

The highest point total doesn't make someone a better prospect. Otherwise Cam Dineen, Sergachev and Chychrun would have gone above Juolevi.

I think Keller's speed and high-end vision makes him a better prospect than Boeser. I worry about Boeser's ability to find space at the next level.

 

[Orca Smash]

The highest point total doesn't make someone a better prospect. Otherwise Cam Dineen, Sergachev and Chychrun would have gone above Juolevi.

I think Keller's speed and high-end vision makes him a better prospect than Boeser. I worry about Boeser's ability to find space at the next level.

No, but its a damn good indicator, and being a fast skater doesnt make one a great prospect either or bill sweat would be an impact player for the canucks. We can go around in circles on this. Honestly i just didnt follow the logic, right now i think keller has alot to prove to match boeser, but im not against people thinking he can be better who like his game, im just not sure what makes him a better prospect right now.

 

[Icebreakers]

The highest point total doesn't make someone a better prospect. Otherwise Cam Dineen, Sergachev and Chychrun would have gone above Juolevi.

I think Keller's speed and high-end vision makes him a better prospect than Boeser. I worry about Boeser's ability to find space at the next level.

Whens the last time a player put up 2ppg in their sophmore season in the NCAA? If he keeps this up you cant really doubt his ability to score. Its like the size argument for Gaudreau at the time. Hes too small to make the NHL. That was the saying at the time, hindsight you can say he was super talented but he wasnt a top prospect for that reason. I mean top 10 prospect in the NHL. Theres not much more Boeser can do to prove his worth besides putting on a flash suit.

Hes doing something no one else is doing. Hes leading the #1 team in the nation in scoring for the second straight year as a 18 and 19 year old.

 

[Canucks LB]

Keller is as good as boeser. In no shape or form better

 

[93LEAFS]

No, but its a damn good indicator, and being a fast skater doesnt make one a great prospect either or bill sweat would be an impact player for the canucks. We can go around in circles on this. Honestly i just didnt follow the logic, right now i think keller has alot to prove to match boeser, but im not against people thinking he can be better who like his game, im just not sure what makes him a better prospect right now.

Except Keller has a lot more to his game than just speed. He has great vision and good hands.

I have no problem with people preferring Boeser, but the logic that Keller has to outproduce what Boeser did last year to be the better prospect is pretty ridiculous and is scouting the scoreline. Obviously, if Keller significantly underperforms (say less than 35 or 40 points) it could be a discussion, but he doesn't need to exceed 60.

 

[Orca Smash]

Except Keller has a lot more to his game than just speed. He has great vision and good hands.

I have no problem with people preferring Boeser, but the logic that Keller has to outproduce what Boeser did last year to be the better prospect is pretty ridiculous and is scouting the scoreline. Obviously, if Keller significantly underperforms (say less than 35 or 40 points) it could be a discussion, but he doesn't need to exceed 60.

Im going to stop after this or we can go forever, but boeser also has excellent vision and hands its one of his best traits....Also nobody is saying he *has* to outproduce boeser but if your comparing prospects again it is a good indicator and he should come close, im not sure what indicator you want to look at other then just our opinion. I think its clear you like keller better, i just dont see at the moment what makes him a better prospect. I dont like dylan strome but after his year last year I cant say timo meir is a better prospect even if i like his game more, dylan strome has exceeded expectations and proven me wrong given the results. If keller has an amazing season and looks to be on boesers level he should be close in point totals. I will certainly concede then he could be tracking to be a better prospect. So far i think he has something to prove this season before i could suggest hes the better prospect at the moment.

 

[Cupless44]

What does Keller weigh 160 lbs?

 

[enj92]

Boeser has one of the most elite package I've ever seen from a Canucks prospect.

Elite shot.
Elite vision.
Elite motor.
Elite puck skills.
Elite character.

The only thing missing is speed - that said he's not a slow skater by NHL standards.

If he can add elite speed to his repertoire I see him as a better Vladimir Tarasenko.

Better than one of the best snipers in the world? Wow those expectations are really high...

 

[JA]

Better than one of the best snipers in the world? Wow those expectations are really high...

He might not be better than Tarasenko, but Craig Button named him the best goal scorer in several drafts at the time of Brock's selection in 2015. I assume he meant the best since 2010, when Vlad was selected 16th overall.

That is interesting because Connor McDavid was drafted only an hour prior to Brock.

When Jim Benning drafted him, he compared him to Joe Pavelski. Pavelski has scored 41, 38, and 37 goals, respectively, in each of his last three NHL seasons.

http://theprovince.com/sports/hockey/canucks-decide-to-wing-it-with-first-pick-select-brock-boeser-from-ushl

NHL Draft: From tragedy to triumph, Boeser brings talent, tenacity to Canucks
Ben Kuzma
Published:
June 26, 2015
Updated:
June 26, 2015 6:48 PM PDT

...

Boeser’s ability to channel his emotions and produce on the ice didn’t go unnoticed. He had 35 goals and 68 points in 57 games with Waterloo of the USHL. The 6-foot, 191 pound forward was one of four players the Canucks had on their wish list and when he was still available in Round 1, they didn’t hesitate — even though they liked some defencemen and didn’t address a growing depth concern there.

“He’s like Joe Pavelski,” Canucks general manager Jim Benning said of comparing Boeser to the San Jose Sharks forward. “He’s strong on the puck and has a good release and goes to the areas where goals are scored. He plays a pro style of game already and uses leverage to get to the net. And he has the courage to get to the net.”

...

Button ranked him ninth in his final 2015 NHL Draft rankings; Pierre McGuire has stated he would have been a Top 5 pick in the 2016 NHL Draft.

This is an elite player.

Here is tonight's hat trick:

 

[DeltaSwede]

Kid had a hattrick, could have had two assists on two Jost chances he should have put away and he also happened to hit the post. Boeser is a force out there.

4-6-10 in 4 games.

I'm not concerned about his speed at all, I don't even think it's a weakness right now. We have seen that players can improve their skating. Just look at Bo Horvat, his skating was considered one of his weaknesses and he's now one of the fastest players on the team.

Brock really is the whole offensive package. His playmaking skills are underrated and he sees the game at a very high level.

Let's hope he keeps this up and that he can translate his game to the NHL level. I don't have any doubts about that right now.

 

[DeltaSwede]

Not sure why he got a penalty shot on that last goal.

Neither was he. In his postgame interview he roughly said: "I didn't even think there was a penalty called, I didn't feel a hack or a slash or anything, but I'll take it *laugh*"

Boeser has one of the most elite package I've ever seen from a Canucks prospect.

Elite shot.
Elite vision.
Elite motor.
Elite puck skills.
Elite character.

The only thing missing is speed - that said he's not a slow skater by NHL standards.

If he can add elite speed to his repertoire I see him as a better Vladimir Tarasenko.

Let's not forget the most important part of his game - Elite Flow

Getting a bit carried away are we? Tarasenko comparison? I'm very excited as well but let's keep our feet on the ground.

 

[TT1]

Speed is important but it's not everything as long as you're a smart player, which he is. Look at Mark Stone for example. Not the fastest skater but still extremely efficient.

And yea, it's something that he can improve in the off season every year.