RW Brock Boeser - North Dakota, NCAA (2015, 23rd, VAN) II

[M2Beezy]

Schroeder 2.0 is a possibility..

Who?

 

[The Drop]

Well he cut fat, which is more along the lines of what I meant.

He actually corrected his stride by taking fewer, longer strides to get to top speed.

 

[CherryToke]

Schroeder 2.0 is a possibility..

I think you mean Hodgson 2.0. That would make more sense at least.

 

[lawrence]

Too slow to apparently play In the NHL according To experts on hfboards.com gets nominated for the honey baker award along with the other Canucks prospect, this guys apparently to small make the NHL, william Lockwood.

 

[Neutral Hockey Fan]

I think you mean Hodgson 2.0. That would make more sense at least.

I've seen a few of the Panels and hockey experts throw out a Sam gagner comparison. They did side by side clips and stats and everything. Seemed like a great comparison. Not sure he will ever hit gagner's offensive ability, but it's a legit ceiling and I agree with the hockey Panels on it

 

[CherryToke]

I've seen a few of the Panels and hockey experts throw out a Sam gagner comparison. They did side by side clips and stats and everything. Seemed like a great comparison. Not sure he will ever hit gagner's offensive ability, but it's a legit ceiling and I agree with the hockey Panels on it

Gagner isn't much of a shooter so that comparison doesn't make much sense either.

 

[Leon Draisaitl]

I've seen a few of the Panels and hockey experts throw out a Sam gagner comparison. They did side by side clips and stats and everything. Seemed like a great comparison. Not sure he will ever hit gagner's offensive ability, but it's a legit ceiling and I agree with the hockey Panels on it

Gagner's never hit 50 points. I'm sure most Canucks fans would be pretty disappointed if Boeser never hits that threshold.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Gagner's never hit 50 points. I'm sure most Canucks fans would be pretty disappointed if Boeser never hits that threshold.

He would have hit 50 during the lockout season, and is on pace for 55 points this year.

Sam Gagner has been a very underrated hockey player for most of his career. He's going to likely break 400 career points this year and is only 27 years old, despite playing the majority of his career on awful teams. That would be a pretty good outcome for a player like Boeser IMO.

Terrible comparison here though, Boeser shares very little stylistically.

 

[DeltaSwede]

McGuire: I spent the day with the Waterloo Blackhawks of the USHL. That's where Brock Boeser your first round pick from 2015 was drafted from. I'm telling you right now, I have heard a lot of things about a lot of players over time. I have never heard rave reviews for a player like I heard about Brock Boeser and his character. I know him as a player, I know him a little bit as a person, but I'm telling you right now, you have a humdinger of a guy coming to Vancouver. This guy is the real McCoy. He is fantastically respected by everyone I met yesterday at Waterloo - and I met a lot of people at Waterloo yesterday.

Sekeres/Price: but he's slowed down recently...he came back from injury with 6 games without a point. That's pretty hard to happen in College Hockey.

McGuire: No it's not. Not on a young team and North Dakota has an extremely young team. Most college teams are a little older, but they are extremely young. I'm telling you right now, he would have helped the Americans so much at the World Juniors and people forget that. He would have been on that team.

Link below (starts at around 12 minutes)
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1...he-real-mccoy-rave-character-reviews-1.668986

 

[Our Lady Peace]

I met Boeser during development camp last year and the first thing that stood out to me was his down to earth personality (and his chest ).

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

McGuire: I spent the day with the Waterloo Blackhawks of the USHL. That's where Brock Boeser your first round pick from 2015 was drafted from. I'm telling you right now, I have heard a lot of things about a lot of players over time. I have never heard rave reviews for a player like I heard about Brock Boeser and his character. I know him as a player, I know him a little bit as a person, but I'm telling you right now, you have a humdinger of a guy coming to Vancouver. This guy is the real McCoy. He is fantastically respected by everyone I met yesterday at Waterloo - and I met a lot of people at Waterloo yesterday.

Sekeres/Price: but he's slowed down recently...he came back from injury with 6 games without a point. That's pretty hard to happen in College Hockey.

McGuire: No it's not. Not on a young team and North Dakota has an extremely young team. Most college teams are a little older, but they are extremely young. I'm telling you right now, he would have helped the Americans so much at the World Juniors and people forget that. He would have been on that team.

Link below (starts at around 12 minutes)
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1...he-real-mccoy-rave-character-reviews-1.668986

Thanks for writing that out, man. I really appreciate it. Positive stuff to see.

 

[Tripod]

He would have hit 50 during the lockout season, and is on pace for 55 points this year.

Sam Gagner has been a very underrated hockey player for most of his career. He's going to likely break 400 career points this year and is only 27 years old, despite playing the majority of his career on awful teams. That would be a pretty good outcome for a player like Boeser IMO.

Terrible comparison here though, Boeser shares very little stylistically.

Gagner's never hit 50 points. I'm sure most Canucks fans would be pretty disappointed if Boeser never hits that threshold.

Just to add, Gagner is 5th in his draft class in points send at worst, will finish top 12. If Boeser finishes top 12 in scoring from his draft, that's pretty good from a 23rd overall pick.

I would take that from Konecny who was taken #24.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Just to add, Gagner is 5th in his draft class in points send at worst, will finish top 12. If Boeser finishes top 12 in scoring from his draft, that's pretty good from a 23rd overall pick.

I would take that from Konecny who was taken #24.

Exactly. Gagner is legitimately one of the most underrated players of his generation. The guy has had a really good career playing on terrible teams.

 

[Leon Draisaitl]

Just to add, Gagner is 5th in his draft class in points send at worst, will finish top 12. If Boeser finishes top 12 in scoring from his draft, that's pretty good from a 23rd overall pick.

I would take that from Konecny who was taken #24.

How is that relevant? The 2007 draft was trash while the 2015 one was regarded as the best in over a decade.

 

[Trelane]

McGuire: I spent the day with the Waterloo Blackhawks of the USHL. That's where Brock Boeser your first round pick from 2015 was drafted from. I'm telling you right now, I have heard a lot of things about a lot of players over time. I have never heard rave reviews for a player like I heard about Brock Boeser and his character. I know him as a player, I know him a little bit as a person, but I'm telling you right now, you have a humdinger of a guy coming to Vancouver. This guy is the real McCoy. He is fantastically respected by everyone I met yesterday at Waterloo - and I met a lot of people at Waterloo yesterday.

Thanks for this. Feel much better now. The last time I recall McGuire say "the real McCoy" in connection with a Nuck prospect was at the 2013 draft when they took Horvat.

 

[dellzor]

How is that relevant? The 2007 draft was trash while the 2015 one was regarded as the best in over a decade.

Was it really trash though?

2007 from what I can see had

Kane (#1 RW)
JVR (#1 / #2 LW)
Turris (#1 / #2 C)
Alzner (top 4 D)
Gagner (meh)
Voracek (top line)
Couture (top line if not for Thornton)
Sutter (meh)
McDonagh (top D)
Shattenkirk (top D)
Pacioretty (top liner)
Backlund (top 6)
Subban (#1 D)
Simmonds (top liner)

Which is pretty good. I'd say the 2012 draft was really bad since it only netted players like in the first round

Galchenyuk (#1/2 C)
Rielly (top 2 dman)
Lindholm (#1 dman)
Dumba (top 4 D)
Trouba (top 2 D potential)
Forsberg (#1/2 C)
Ceci (top 4 D)
Murray (meh)
Hertl (top 6 winger)
Maatta (meh)

Let's take a look at the 2015 draft,

McDavid (#1 C)
Eichel (#1 C)
Strome (Dude's too slow)
Marner (top line winger)
Hanifin (top 2 D potential)
Zacha (no comment)
Provorov (top 2 D already although it's due to the lack of depth in Flyers' D)
Werenski (top 2 D)
Rantanen (top 6 winger)
Zboril (no comment yet)
Barzal (no comment yet)
Connor (no comment yet)
Chabot (looked good @ wjc)
Samsonov (lighting it up in the KHL with a .933%)
Boeser (no comment yet)
Konecny (top 9 winger)
Aho (top 6)
Carlo (top 4 D)
Gaudette (homer but he's lighting it up in the NCAA)

 

[Bankerguy]

It's funny

I remember when Horvat was drafted. I liked everything about his game except he was SO SLOW. I remember being at scrimages and watching training camp. Horvat was legit slow compared to NHL players. Like it wasnt even funny. Now Horvat is really fast.
Boeser is probably a better skater now than Horvat was back then.... Boeser has a good frame and long thick legs... get him a proper skating coach and training regimen and he'll be fine. His shot is very very good. If he's quick or smart enough to get in the right position he'll score 25 goals in the NHL.

 

[Hugh Mungus]

Do you think he's the best or one of the best players not playing in the NHL?

Puljujarvi
Keller
Barzal
Chabot
Connor
White
Steel
McAvoy
Malgin
Sergachev
Nylander
Jost
Greenway
Roslovic
Fischer
Patrick
Hischier

Hard to say he's better than these guys - and that's just North America. I'd say Gersich is even the better player right now.

I'd also think it a stretch to say his wrist problems are affecting his skating ability.

yes hes currently better than a lot of those guys

 

[btdvox]

Boeser is # 8 on this list of top 50 players not in the NHL.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/who-are-the-best-players-not-skating-in-the-nhl-1.677389

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Boeser is # 8 on this list of top 50 players not in the NHL.

http://www.tsn.ca/talent/who-are-the-best-players-not-skating-in-the-nhl-1.677389

That's a very misleading title. That's the top 50 NHL affiliated prospects, not the best players outside the NHL.

I would also be interested to hear his explanation for placing Boeser ahead of Jost, who's producing at the same pace despite being a year younger and bringing way more elements to the game at a more important position.

 

[DeltaSwede]

That's a very misleading title. That's the top 50 NHL affiliated prospects, not the best players outside the NHL.

I would also be interested to hear his explanation for placing Boeser ahead of Jost, who's producing at the same pace despite being a year younger and bringing way more elements to the game at a more important position.

How about you compare Brock's rookie season with Josts? And also consider that Boeser takes some of the more important face offs for UND both this year and last year. End of the game type of situations. He's strong on the face offs.

I don't see how Jost would bring more elements than Brock does.. I would be interested to hear your explanation as to why Jost would be considered a better prospect other than his position..

 

[Goulet17]

How about you compare Brock's rookie season with Josts? And also consider that Boeser takes some of the more important face offs for UND both this year and last year. End of the game type of situations. He's strong on the face offs.

I don't see how Jost would bring more elements than Brock does.. I would be interested to hear your explanation as to why Jost would be considered a better prospect other than his position..

Your faceoff argument is strange as that is possibly Jost's best skill as a freshman, as anyone around the UND program will tell you. Jost is considered to be the best faceoff guy on the UND team and one of the best true freshman on faceoffs in the NHL.

"UND is the best faceoff team in the National Collegiate Hockey Conference by a wide margin and is tracking toward being one of the program's best faceoff teams in the last decade."

"All four of UND's regular centers—freshman Tyson Jost, sophomore Rhett Gardner, freshman Ludvig Hoff and junior Johnny Simonson—rank in the top 10 in the NCHC in faceoff percentage.

Jost leads the league at 63.2 percent—quite a ways ahead of second-place Tanner Ockey of Colorado College's 59.7 percent. Simonson ranks fourth at 55.5 percent. Hoff is seventh at 53.9 percent and Gardner is 10th at 53.1 percent.

"At times, UND will ask winger Brock Boeser to take draws, too. He's at 52.7 percent."

"Jost is on pace to break UND's single-season record for faceoff percentage—a stat that has been tracked since 2003-04. The current record is held by Corban Knight at 59.9 percent."

http://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/4166233-faceoffs-key-unds-success

 

[elitepete]

That's a very misleading title. That's the top 50 NHL affiliated prospects, not the best players outside the NHL.

I would also be interested to hear his explanation for placing Boeser ahead of Jost, who's producing at the same pace despite being a year younger and bringing way more elements to the game at a more important position.

Wrist injury.

 

[lawrence]

That's a very misleading title. That's the top 50 NHL affiliated prospects, not the best players outside the NHL.

I would also be interested to hear his explanation for placing Boeser ahead of Jost, who's producing at the same pace despite being a year younger and bringing way more elements to the game at a more important position.

Did Brock boeser do something to you for you to slam him this badly ? I don't see you this emotionally attached this badly to anyone else. Your also not going to get an explanation. Like seriously what is your problem? It's non stop hate from you. Btw which is your favorite NHL team ?

 

[Goulet17]

Did Brock boeser do something to you for you to slam him this badly ? I don't see you this emotionally attached this badly to anyone else. Your also not going to get an explanation. Like seriously what is your problem? It's non stop hate from you. Btw which is your favorite NHL team ?

I have not reviewed past posts from the poster that you are addressing, but in my mind the post that you are quoting does not seem like it was an emotional post. On the contrary, your post seems to be very emotional in my mind. Maybe the poster has a simple disagreement regarding Button's ranking. It is not the end of the world.