Speculation: Rumours, Speculation, and all Armchair-GM-ing needs! v.11

[Anglesmith]

Can't see any team trading anything more than a cap dump of their own in exchange. Only a remote chance a team like the Coyotes would take him for little, and that's only if they needed help in reaching the cap floor. And they'd have to wait until the late summer for that possibility, and the buyout period is long done by then.

More importantly, he takes up a valuable roster spot. I'd much, much rather have Bollig and Byron as the 13th and 14th forwards than keep Raymond as a placeholder.

Based on last year, I don't think that's the competition. If Byron and Raymond do end up duelling for the 14th forward spot, I think we'll see Raymond in Stockton. I don't see it getting to that point, though.

 

[FlamesFan18]

Raymond also generates the most shots/60 during 5 on 5 gameplay which the Flames are amongst the worst of the worst for.

 

[CraigsList]

Raymond also generates the most shots/60 during 5 on 5 gameplay which the Flames are amongst the worst of the worst for.

That's surprising, considering that the majority of the time he has the puck, he bobbles it and causes a TO.

 

[OvermanKingGainer]

Raymond also generates the most shots/60 during 5 on 5 gameplay which the Flames are amongst the worst of the worst for.

Useless, soft, one and done perimeter shots that only work on bad goaltenders.

 

[Calculon]

Based on last year, I don't think that's the competition. If Byron and Raymond do end up duelling for the 14th forward spot, I think we'll see Raymond in Stockton. I don't see it getting to that point, though.

He did finish the season alternating between the fourth line and the press box, if I remember correctly.

Think he loses his roster spot to Shore and since he's not a good pressbox type, better just to move on entirely. No need for the possible sideshow and/or unhappy attitude around prospects by sending him to Stockton.

 

[FlamesFan18]

http://ownthepuck.blogspot.ca/

If you look at these charts you will find Raymond consistently follows under the Worse D, slightly better O section. I find them pretty useful, it shows how GOAT Giordano is.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

I'm sure the Flames could work out a retained salary deal with someone, he has value at 50%.

 

[Anglesmith]

He did finish the season alternating between the fourth line and the press box, if I remember correctly.

Think he loses his roster spot to Shore and since he's not a good pressbox type, better just to move on entirely. No need for the possible sideshow and/or unhappy attitude around prospects by sending him to Stockton.

I don't think he's utterly useless, though. He was great in certain games this season where he was clearly playing with a chip on his shoulder. I'm fine with Raymond alternating on the fourth line, and I'm not yet ready to declare him an "addition by subtraction" candidate.

 

[CraigsList]

I'm sure the Flames could work out a retained salary deal with someone, he has value at 50%.

Yeah, a team would definitely take on Raymond for 1.5m.

 

[Flamesarmstrong22]

I could see something like Raymond + Pick 52 to Toronto for Lupul.
Leafs shed salary, gain a pick. Raymond enjoyed some success in toronto

 

[herashak]

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[Flames Fanatic]

http://ownthepuck.blogspot.ca/

If you look at these charts you will find Raymond consistently follows under the Worse D, slightly better O section. I find them pretty useful, it shows how GOAT Giordano is.

While advanced stats are great, you still have to apply the eyeball test. And there is no denying Raymond at times did nothing more than either turnover the puck, skate down the boards and then turnover the puck behind the net when checked, or throw a wrist shot from outside the faceoff circle into the goalies chest.

 

[FlamerForLife]

As per Darren Dreger: Cam Talbot is a hot commodity. Edmtn, Cgy, SJ, Dallas + Florida have expressed interest. Multiple trade offers. First 3 most likely targets
What do you guys think of this?

 

[Taranis]

I dont understand why we would pay assets for a backup.

 

[St Wardo]

Yeah. Is Talbot really an upgrade over Hiller/Ramo? I mean we could spend no assets and resign Ramo

 

[MonyontheMoney]

I dont understand why we would pay assets for a backup.

He is much more than a "backup". He's just stuck behind Lundqvist, and has been pretty impressive so far in his first two years in the NHL. He's 33-15-5 in that time with a GAA of below 2.00 and .934 SV%. Those are pretty impressive numbers.

That said, with one year remaining on his contract and set to be a UFA, it is entirely possible we would only get one year out of him.

I would love to have Talbot in Calgary, but like everything it depends on price.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

So that's another goalie that we're reportedly kicking tires on.

Something must be in the works...

Or it's just that Ramo definitely won't be back, and there's a low level of confidence in Ortio to be a 1B NHL goalie.

 

[Taranis]

Those are good numbers but its also on one of the best defensive teams in the league. Combine his lack of NHL experience with being one year away from being a UFA and I wouldn't pay.

 

[FlamesFreak4]

Trading Hiller, not re-signing Ramo, and running with a Talbot/Lack and Ortio duo wouldn't be all that bad

 

[Rockmorton]

Yeah. Is Talbot really an upgrade over Hiller/Ramo? I mean we could spend no assets and resign Ramo

Maybe that's the point. What if Ramo's not interested in signing with us or the team doesn't like his asking price? Either way, they'd need to replace him to maintain their depth in goal.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Treliving is obviously just driving up the price on Talbot.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

Those are good numbers but its also on one of the best defensive teams in the league. Combine his lack of NHL experience with being one year away from being a UFA and I wouldn't pay.

In terms of GA, sure they are near the top, is that more in part to good defence or good goaltending? It's really kind of impossible to say 100%. But it's not like the opposition doesn't get chances while playing the Rangers, they finished 14th in SA/G with 29.5. For comparison sake, that's more than what Calgary, and Carolina gave up.

 

[Taranis]

In terms of GA, sure they are near the top, is that more in part to good defence or good goaltending? It's really kind of impossible to say 100%. But it's not like the opposition doesn't get chances while playing the Rangers, they finished 14th in SA/G with 29.5. For comparison sake, that's more than what Calgary, and Carolina gave up.

I mean I can't get into it because honestly I don't know, but I would think that means the shots that they do give up are from the outside and with no one getting to the rebound.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

Treliving is obviously just driving up the price on Talbot.

That could very well be the case, but with the news that Hiller was on the block at the Deadline, and is now as well, I don't doubt there is legit interest there.

 

[MonyontheMoney]

I mean I can't get into it because honestly I don't know, but I would think that means the shots that they do give up are from the outside and with no one getting to the rebound.

I can't either but I'm sure there is some sort of stat nowadays that measures shot quality or something along those lines. If anyone knows of anything like that I'd be interested to see it.