Speculation: Rumours, Speculation, and all Armchair-GM-ing needs! v.11

[herashak]

I think Calgary wants to give Ortio a fair chance next year.

Don't be surprised if Ortio takes over next year as the #1 goalie on the Flames.

yes i was proposing signing ramo to a 2yr deal and shipping off hiller for a solid pick

 

[Johnny GODreau]

what would yall think of signing ramo to the hiller contract. 2/9m is a fair deal for both sides imo and gillies could backup in 3 seasons. thats with trading hiller.

Little too much IMO. 2 years 4.5m-6.0m

 

[Lunatik]

Well, Bollig went for a third, so…

the trade value of a modern day enforcer and a goaltender do not impact each other.

 

[Lunatik]

Hiller + 45 for Ward + 35 +96.

 

[CraigsList]

Hiller + 45 for Ward + 35 +96.

I feel like it should be a third on our end...

 

[bWo*]

I feel like it should be a third on our end...

No way

Edit: I'm stupid. Disregard me.

 

[CraigsList]

No way

Edit: I'm stupid. Disregard me.

How darest thou.

 

[Lunatik]

I feel like it should be a third on our end...

why? all we are taking on is money and only a couple million extra. we would move up 10 spots and add a 4th. that is pretty fair. I also think Ward is the better of the 2 goaltenders.

 

[bWo*]

How darest thou.

For some reason I read that as add a third from our end

 

[Lunatik]

For some reason I read that as add a third from our end

you did read it right, but he is suggesting instead of the 2nd

 

[bWo*]

you did read it right, but he is suggesting instead of the 2nd

Ya when I originally read that I read it as keep the second and throw in the third too. I'll show myself the door

 

[Lunatik]

Ya when I originally read that I read it as keep the second and throw in the third too. I'll show myself the door

it's late and your wisdom teeth hurt, let's blame FFF for wording it badly

 

[Lunatik]

Night shifts are boring and I need to pass time, so let's go a little crazy.

Trades:

• Dennis Wideman & 45th OA to the Red Wings for 19th OA
• Mason Raymond to the Flyers for R.J Umberger, 98th OA & 99th OA
• 196th OA to the Blackhawks for Kris Versteeg & 54th OA
• Jonas Hiller, David Jones (50% retained), Markus Granlund & 52nd OA to the Blues for TJ Oshie & Brian Elliot

Draft:

• 15th OA: Timo Meier (RW) or Kyle Connor (C/LW)
• 19th OA: Colin White (C) or Brandon Carlo (RD)
• 53rd OA: Graham Knott (LW) or Matthew Spencer (RD)
• 54th OA: Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson (C/RW) or Ryan Pilon (LD)
• 76th OA: Dennis Gilbert (LD) or Parker Wotherspoon (LD)
• 83rd OA: Keegan Kolesar (RW) or Jens Looke (RW)
• 98th OA: Adam Parsells (RD) or A.J Greer (LW)
• 99th OA: Taggart Corriveau (RW) or Joseph Cecconi (RD)
• 136th OA: Austin Strand (RD) or Adam Gaudette (C)
• 166th OA: Goaltender
• 196th OA: Brien Diffley (RD) or William Borgen (RD)

Buyouts:

• R.J Umberger
  • 2015-16: $1,600,000
  • 2016-17: $1,600,000
  • 2017-18: $1,500,000
  • 2018-19: $1,500,000
• Kris Versteeg
  • 2015-16: $633,334 (Panthers would also pay $633,334)
  • 2016-17: $$783,333 (Panthers would also pay $783,333)

Signings:

• Mikael Backlund: 4 years/$11,000,000
  • 2015-16: $2,500,000
  • 2016-17: $2,750,000 (Limited NTC: 10 teams he will go to)
  • 2017-18: $2,750,000 (Limited NTC: 10 teams he will go to)
  • 2018-19: $3,000,000 (Limited NTC: 5 teams he will not go to)
• Lance Bouma: 1 year/$2,000,000
  • 2015-16: $2,000,000
• Christian Ehrhoff: 1 year/$5,000,000
  • 2015-16: $5,000,000 (Including $2,000,000 in performance bonuses)
• Micheal Ferland: 1 year/$800,000
  • 2015-16: $800,000
• Josh Jooris: 1 year/$1,000,000
  • 2015-16: $1,000,000
• David Schlemko: 1 year/$1,000,000
  • 2015-16: $1,000,000
• Drew Shore: 1 year/$700,000
  • 2015-16: $700,000
• Antoine Vermette: 2 years/$10,000,000
  • 2015-16: $5,000,000 (NMC)
  • 2016-17: $5,000,000 (NMC, expires Dec. 31st)

Offer Sheets:

• Dougie Hamilton: 6 years/$36,000,000
  • 2015-16: $6,000,000
  • 2016-17: $6,000,000
  • 2017-18: $6,000,000
  • 2018-19: $6,000,000
  • 2019-20: $6,000,000 (NMC)
  • 2020-21: $6,000,000 (NMC)

Line-ups/Salary Cap:

J. Gaudreau 0.925 - S. Monahan 0.925 - J. Hudler 4.000
S. Bennett 0.925 - A. Vermette 5.000 - T. Oshie 4.175
L. Bouma 2.000 - M. Backlund 2.750 - J. Colborne 1.275
M. Ferland 0.800 - M. Stajan 3.125 - J. Jooris 1.000
B. Bollig 1.250 - D. Shore 0.700

M. Giordano 4.020 - T. Brodie 4.650
K. Russell 2.600 - D. Hamilton 6.000
C. Ehrhoff 5.000 - D. Engelland 2.917
D. Schlemko 1.000

B. Elliot 2.500 - J. Ortio 0.600

Non-Roster Hits:
L. Smid (LTIR) 3.500
R. Umberger (Buyout) 1.600
K. Versteeg (Buyout) 0.634
D. Jones (Salary Retention) 2.000

Cap Hit: $64.071

 

[Sparky93]

Semin, Ward, LA's 2016 1st + 35th for Hiller, Raymond, Smid + 53rd. Lots of great players in the 35 range . If Semin doesn't pan out, we retain a little salary and add one of our 1st's to move him for 2017. I'd really love to get that 2016 1st. The Kings seem like a team that's on the verge of trending down or even losing their identity. Lots of question marks on that roster next year.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

100TG that is a pretty nice looking lineup, I wouldn't be complaining at all. Adding Oshie and Vermette up front would be huge. Getting Hamilton would be incredible and Erhoff is still quite solid as well.

 

[Ynnek]

I'm pretty sure Boston would match a $6M offer sheet. The price to get Hamilton would be higher with too many picks leaving.

 

[Taranis]

I'm pretty sure Boston would match a $6M offer sheet. The price to get Hamilton would be higher with too many picks leaving.

I agree it would have to be stupid money for Boston not to match.

 

[Lunatik]

I'm pretty sure Boston would match a $6M offer sheet. The price to get Hamilton would be higher with too many picks leaving.

Can they afford to? They are in a huge bind of they do. If they sign him for $6 million it leaves $1.756 million to sign (or call up and add the salaries of) 5 forwards, 2 defensemen and a goaltender. During the summer they can exceed the cap by 7.1 million, so that gives them 8.856 million for 8 players, then when the season starts Savard goes on LTIR and they still have to shed almost $5 million in salary.

 

[Taranis]

Can they afford to? They are in a huge bind of they do. If they sign him for $6 million it leaves $1.756 million to sign (or call up and add the salaries of) 5 forwards, 2 defensemen and a goaltender. During the summer they can exceed the cap by 7.1 million, so that gives them 8.856 million for 8 players, then when the season starts Savard goes on LTIR and they still have to shed almost $5 million in salary.

They can't afford it but they also can't afford to ditch a potential number one defensemen who's what 22 years old. I would think they would just sign him and deal with the consequences and start a bit of a retool.

 

[bWo*]

I think they'd get rid of some dead weight in the bottom 6 and maybe lucic too and like Taranis said,start a bit of a retool

 

[Lunatik]

They can't afford it but they also can't afford to ditch a potential number one defensemen who's what 22 years old. I would think they would just sign him and deal with the consequences and start a bit of a retool.

then let them. I'd offer a trade first. I'd offer the 15th pick, Granlund and the 76th pick, if they say no then I make the offer on July 1st. Or I'd offer the 15th & Ferland for Lucic.

 

[slappipappi]

[*]196th OA to the Blackhawks for Kris Versteeg & 54th OA
[*]Jonas Hiller, David Jones (50% retained), Markus Granlund & 52nd OA to the Blues for TJ Oshie & Brian Elliot
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Offer Sheets:

• Dougie Hamilton: 6 years/$36,000,000
  • 2015-16: $6,000,000
  • 2016-17: $6,000,000
  • 2017-18: $6,000,000
  • 2018-19: $6,000,000
  • 2019-20: $6,000,000 (NMC)
  • 2020-21: $6,000,000 (NMC)

(1) Nice overall job.
(2) Versteeg at a $2.2M cap hit for only 1 year does not have negative value. He can easily be moved for some sort of pick.
(3) If the Blues move Oshie, it won't be for junk. THey'll have to be something decent (1st round pick, premium prospect) going back.
(3) Offer sheets cannot contain any NT language.

 

[Johnny GODreau]

At first I was like why does 100TG's want Versteeg? then he buys him out.
I want nothing to do with Meier and Carlo. I think we could pull a third out of that DET deal.
Wideman + 45th for 19th + 3rd'16

 

[MonyontheMoney]

Boston would trade most guys from their roster in order to match any Hamilton OS, with a few exceptions, and unless the offer is stupidly high.

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

i would trade two firsts, a second and Klimchuk for Douggie.

I would love Lucic, but trading Ferland or Poirier for him just doesn't make sense for a soon to be UFA. Klimchuk, 45 and 52. That's more then we got for Boumeester and it's a similar $ amount/ age / contract status as J-Bo.