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[Oilhawks]

Black magic

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[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

A question to many posters I've seen now:

How do you expect to sign Alex Pietrangelo?

Sounds pretty impossible to me.

You need to cap dump Larsson and Russell and sign him for no more than 9.5 which might do the trick if it was massively front loaded with signing bonus dollars. Probably getting 10 or more, I don't see him coming to Edmonton as much as I would love to have him. Toronto will trade for every LTIR contract there is in the NHL and toss 10mil x 7 with $63 mil in signing bonus year one and a $1M per season salary or something stupid like that.

 

[KaprizovEntitlelist]

Why does Minnesota do that trade? And if they do why wouldnt we pair Brodin with Klefbom? Beaulieu would be a 3rd pairing guy IMO.

Exactly especially when only one Brodin or Dumba are getting traded for the c wild need

 

[AddyTheWrath]

5. Looking at those Toronto wingers, I wondered if Edmonton is a fit. Leon Draisaitl and Connor McDavid need help. The Maple Leafs and Oilers have been close on some things before. Connor Brown, before he went to Ottawa. Matt Benning and Jujhar Khaira, although that one fell apart when the forward got hurt. But Oilers GM Ken Holland is determined to avoid previous mistakes and not give up on young players too soon. So I’m not sure it works. I do think it is unlikely Edmonton qualifies Andreas Athanasiou, because the tighter cap and his arbitration possibilities make it difficult.

6. On Jesse Puljujarvi, it sounds like the Oilers thought a signing was close, the player not so much. We will see where this goes. A trade is still possible.

Interesting stuff from 31 Thoughts. Kind of reaffirms what some of us are discussing.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Interesting stuff from 31 Thoughts. Kind of affirms what some of us are discussing.

Woah! that sounds pretty crazy, we gave up 2* 2nd round picks for him on top of a 4th rd pick for 2 games of Green.

I can't say I'm highly confident AA would earn his $3M QO, but most GM's would just commit from a face saving perspective, the possibility does exist to not give him his QO and re-sign him for cheaper, but it doesn't seem to occur all that often.

From an ice the best team possible perspective re-signing Ennis at just short of $1M seems like a much better use of our limited cap space than AA at $3M.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Suter-Spurgeon
Nurse-Dumba

Looks pretty good.

Why does Klfa need to pair with Brodin? They can be roomies off the ice if they want.

As for Beaulieu, i couldnt find another LD with a B.

He would just be a placeholder til Broberg and Berglund are.ready.

Because they played together in Sweden?

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Woah! that sounds pretty crazy, we gave up 2* 2nd round picks for him on top of a 4th rd pick for 2 games of Green.

I can't say I'm highly confident AA would earn his $3M QO, but most GM's would just commit from a face saving perspective, the possibility does exist to not give him his QO and re-sign him for cheaper, but it doesn't seem to occur all that often.

From an ice the best team possible perspective re-signing Ennis at just short of $1M seems like a much better use of our limited cap space than AA at $3M.

Don’t think we lost our 4th mate.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

Woah! that sounds pretty crazy, we gave up 2* 2nd round picks for him on top of a 4th rd pick for 2 games of Green.

I can't say I'm highly confident AA would earn his $3M QO, but most GM's would just commit from a face saving perspective, the possibility does exist to not give him his QO and re-sign him for cheaper, but it doesn't seem to occur all that often.

From an ice the best team possible perspective re-signing Ennis at just short of $1M seems like a much better use of our limited cap space than AA at $3M.

If we let AA walk that would be terrible asset management from Holland unless he gets a crazy arbitration ruling. AA showed his best in the play in and is young enough to rebound as a player.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Don’t think we lost our 4th mate.

Per Capfriendly

Feb 24, 2020
Detroit Red Wings Acquire: Kyle Brodziak 2020 conditional 4th round pick* (EDM) *Conditions: The 2020 4th round pick upgrades to a 2021 3rd round pick if Edmonton advances to the Conference Final, and Green plays in 50% of the games. Result: Condition not met. Detroit receives the 2020 4th round pick.	Edmonton Oilers Acquire: Mike Green ($2,687,500 retained - 50%)

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[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Because they played together in Sweden?

They played for the same team 9 years ago for ten games when they were teenagers and that's why they should be paired together as NHL veterans.

 

[CookiesAndMilk]

Listen up:

If Pietro signs a deal in Edmonton for the upcoming season, I will personally donate $500 to a charity of our choice (can be decided when it happens).

I like dreaming about having Pietro in our D-Core too, but that's just unrealistic imo.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

They played for the same team 9 years ago for ten games when they were teenagers and that's why they should be paired together as NHL veterans.

They had a fairly substantial overlap in the Farjestad program in the U16, J18, and mens team on top of multiple international teams. It's always a fair point that chemistry might not carry forth to the NHL, but a lot of people want to reunite junior teammates who spent less time playing together than Klef and Brodin did and against weaker competition than the SHL provides.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

If we let AA walk that would be terrible asset management from Holland unless he gets a crazy arbitration ruling. AA showed his best in the play in and is young enough to rebound as a player.

Agreed on all points.

Though there are a few factors which could of changed the original gameplan:

• The Covid lockout giving us a stagnant cap, could put an unexpected wrench in our plans, like all of sudden you have $2-$2.5M less money to play with than you were expecting to have for the upcoming season and could of determined you need that money for more pressing needs higher on the priority list- like goaltending, defense, or a 3rd line C.
• Pulju had a change of heart and is willing to come back, sometimes teams only want so many projects at a time and Pulju could be the preferred project as the younger, cheaper player, with potentially a higher ceiling.
• Relatively stagnant caps means a lot of teams have less money to play with and it tends to make for more reasonable UFA salary demands.

 

[Fourier]

AA didn't click here but over the last 4 years he has 75 goals in 266 games. That's a 23 goal in 82 game pace. At the very least qualify him and trade him. Letting him simply walk would be a massive mistake.

 

[North]

AA didn't click here but over the last 4 years he has 75 goals in 266 games. That's a 23 goal in 82 game pace. At the very least qualify him and trade him. Letting him simply walk would be a massive mistake.

I get Holland’s reason for potentially moving on from him but he should definitely try to recover some of what we paid for him. Maybe we can get a second at least.

 

[ConnorMcNugesaitl]

If we let AA walk that would be terrible asset management from Holland unless he gets a crazy arbitration ruling. AA showed his best in the play in and is young enough to rebound as a player.

His best was still trash that's why there's discussion of him not even being qualified.

You know what's worse than making a mistake? Making an additional mistake because you're trying to justify your original mistake.

 

[CycloneSweep]

His best was still trash that's why there's discussion of him not even being qualified.

You know what's worse than making a mistake? Making an additional mistake because you're trying to justify your original mistake.

Not qualifying him would be a mistake. That's literally throwing away 2 seconds. If Holland hates him at least trade him for whatever you can get to recoup some assets. Throwing him away based on a small sample size is absolutely Chiarelli level asset management.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Based on things we are gearing about how clearing capspace will be hard it not impossible and most trades will just be player swaps possibly. What about a Russell Bjugstad swap.
Clears space for Jones in the bottom pairing and gets us an actual 3c. Only signed for one more year so if the experiment doesn't work, we aren't tied to him.

 

[Fourier]

Based on things we are gearing about how clearing capspace will be hard it not impossible and most trades will just be player swaps possibly. What about a Russell Bjugstad swap.
Clears space for Jones in the bottom pairing and gets us an actual 3c. Only signed for one more year so if the experiment doesn't work, we aren't tied to him.

Bjugstad has had very little recent success as a center. Russell is probably much easier to move. After his signing bonus he has a real salary of $1.5M vs $5.25M for Bjugstad.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

It really is time to move on from Russell and Larsson. Sunk cost fallacy with both at this point.

 

[KlefDown]

With the word out there about Larsson and his chronic back issues, I doubt any GM will pay anything of value for him
We’ll maybe get a 2nd idk

 

[YakDavid]

It really is time to move on from Russell and Larsson. Sunk cost fallacy with both at this point.

I think they are both serviceable but bottom pairing. Larrson with his back injury is a bit concerning. We have some young defenseman that I would like to see get a shot and maybe we can mitigate some of the risk by bringing say green on a cheap contract.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I think they are both serviceable but bottom pairing. Larrson with his back injury is a bit concerning. We have some young defenseman that I would like to see get a shot and maybe we can mitigate some of the risk by bringing say green on a cheap contract.

I know people commend Russell as some sort of warrior but he's extremely one dimensional and even that dimension really isn't that good. He deflects a lot of pucks into our net.

 

[Frank the Tank]

What kind of coin could we sign both for? I assume that we would have to dump Larssons salary to make it work. Who do we move on from to sign Haula?

Trade Russell to Florida, who are looking to cut costs significantly, for the rights to Haula. He's currently signed for $2.75M/season. Signing Haula at approx. $3M season over a 3-4 year term shouldn't be a problem as he's 29.

The Oilers have numerous bottom-6 forwards from which they could move on. I'm not sold on Khaira as the #3C. As another poster mentioned, Haula had chemistry with Neal in Vegas.

 

[Little Fury]

I think they are both serviceable but bottom pairing. Larrson with his back injury is a bit concerning. We have some young defenseman that I would like to see get a shot and maybe we can mitigate some of the risk by bringing say green on a cheap contract.

Russell's gotta go. That's $4m we can spend elsewhere, like in goal.