Rumor: Rumours and Proposals Thread: Hyman?

[McDrai]

I hated every deal. I did like signing Lucic LOL

Yeah, I think we all got sucked into that signing

 

[McTonyBrar]

Not an Oilers fan, but I feel like it was inevitable, wasn't it?

I mean, wasn't this made necessary by previous incompetence. If the Oilers weren't in such rough shape now, this wouldn't be necessary.

Do the Oilers really want to take a step back next year?

How many times can you do that before McDavid or Draisaitl asks out. Either one could sink you. It kind of forces you to make moves you prefer not to. In the long-term it will likely be terrible, but unless the Oilers make the conference finals in the next 3 years (before Draisaitl's last season), then they're probably screwed. This is a risky move, but they have no extra assets to make a better one and by the time this blows up in their face, they'll either have won a cup/made the finals or they'll be forced to rebuild anyway.

100% agreed

 

[McXLNC97]

He is no Larsson. In fact, I think he's knee deep in decline and the reviews from fans that have watched him lately are not pretty. Its a suitable Plan B though if his Cap accounts for all this.

He signed with the Canucks last year for 1.25m. He will probably come back about the same rate this year. Let's not forget, prior to last season, Larsson was a disaster himself the prior 2 seasons.

 

[antropomorphia]

What yall think is going to happen at the draft? Any smoke coming from there?

 

[Ragdoll]

I genuinely wonder if Holland trading for Keith and protecting him rather than signing Larsson and protecting him first had any impact on Adam’s decision to leave. That would be a slap in the face imo.

 

[TheNumber4]

Everyone in the hockey world was joking about 1 for 1, maybe even more so people in Toronto than in Edmonton. It hurt too much to be funny in Edmonton. He is speculating that may have made it difficult for Larsson to get comfortable here. It seems reasonable, but it probably had as much or more to do with the ‘personal reasons’ friedge alluded to. He suffered a loss here and had some tough years.

It was the Oiler haters that harped on about "1 for 1", why the hell would we make fun of ourselves? Also, at the time as there is with any major trade there will be rationalizations. A lot of the fanbase was done with Hall at the point, myself to a degree as well identifying how bad our D was and getting myself hyped over Larsson's pre-draft scouting reports which indicated a higher ceiling. Then we finally made the playoffs and made some noise, I think it was universally accepted at the time that the move was the right move for this team when 2016 happened. Rereading Friedman's statement, he doesn't out right say it and its nothing you can nail him for.. but look at how this is worded: "Also, I wonder if he was ever really comfortable. The trade for Hall. I think at times, the jokes, the 1-for-1... I always wonder if that ever really made him feel really comfortable in Edmonton, and at the end of the day, I think he was ready for a fresh start."

The bolded constitutes an implication to me. An implication that it was Edmonton's fan base making the jokes and the uncomfortable environment.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Signing Barrie is one move closer to having Nurse repeat his amazing year...which the team needs

It also bumps Bouchard to Keiths pair...which I absolutely love

 

[Soundwave]

Are the Oilers even allowed to sign Hyman tomorrow?

 

[McAsuno]

the dream is dead boys

 

[The Safe Play]

the dream is dead boys

Lol

 

[IranCondraAffair]

Are the Oilers even allowed to sign Hyman tomorrow?

We went over this elsewhere, but basically, Toronto would re-sign him and trade him to the Oilers for something.

 

[McXLNC97]

I genuinely wonder if Holland trading for Keith and protecting him rather than signing Larsson and protecting him first had any impact on Adam’s decision to leave. That would be a slap in the face imo.

How is that a slap in the face? They don't even play the same side of the ice...not like Keith was gonna push Larsson down to 3rd pair.

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

He is not Larsson, he's Larsson two and a half years older. He was better than Larsson in his 20s.

But is Larsson worth 3x+ the cost and worth signing into his 30s?

Gotta disagree Hamonic was allways over rated. Hamonic=Sucks now.

 

[Mrgnwllm]

I like Hyman and won’t hold the contract against him.
I think he will do some damage with Connor and on PP1. He’s got great hands in front of net.

 

[bobbythebrain]

I genuinely wonder if Holland trading for Keith and protecting him rather than signing Larsson and protecting him first had any impact on Adam’s decision to leave. That would be a slap in the face imo.

So Larsson didn't want the team to improve? Larsson was threatened by a guy not taking his position nor his minutes?

 

[alphahelix]

This post is just basically word salad.

You applied your own spin to Friedman’s words, that’s the upshot.

I brought what he was saying rather than what he literally said. I never claimed what I wrote to be a transcription. You took issue with an interpretation of a source from another source that presumably came from the player or agent. You don’t seem to understand where you are (a hockey fan forum) and I’m not sure what you think your words are communicating here other than that you might be a wad.

 

[Faelko]

I genuinely wonder if Holland trading for Keith and protecting him rather than signing Larsson and protecting him first had any impact on Adam’s decision to leave. That would be a slap in the face imo.

Not a chance

 

[bobbythebrain]

Gotta disagree Hamonic was allways over rated. Hamonic=Sucks now.

Analytics said he was a better 5v5 player than Hedman a few years back
-Oiler fan

 

[booyakasha]

Are the Oilers even allowed to sign Hyman tomorrow?

no, the Oilers were given permission to talk to Hyman, but can't formally table anything until the 28th.

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

Not a chance

I think it did.

 

[Soundwave]

Gotta disagree Hamonic was allways over rated. Hamonic=Sucks now.

I know you're a Flamer account and are sour that Treliving gave away a 1st round pick, but in 2016 the Islanders probably could've gotten Hall for Hamonic if they weren't stupid and took advantage of Chia again.

Hamonic was definitely more highly thought of in the past.

Neither are anything great.

 

[McTedi]

Hello People, Loooong time lurker first time posting.

While I'm not as "the sky is falling" as others I am very worried about this offseason. We are wasting McD's prime, and while I don't believe he is the type of person to ask to be let out ( although I suppose everyone has a breaking point). I'm not totally against Hyman as he does check a lot of boxes - just as long as Holland doesn't completely over pay him I'm ok with it. I do expect a small overpay as it seems to stigmata to get anyone to sign here.

Losing Larrson hurts. Theres no sugar coating it. I won't cast any shade on Holland - yet. I'll wait and see if he can do anything this offseason.

How many of us wish we didnt have Nicholson still around... this old boys club just sucks...

For UFAs, Edmonton will continue to overpay. Sad but true.

 

[antropomorphia]

the dream is dead boys

This was obvious considering the Hyman rumours.

Oilers burned Halls ass and he doesn't wanna come back, it is what it is. Lets move on.

 

[Faelko]

the dream is dead boys

Not dead, just on hold for 4 more years…lucky us…lol

 

[McDrai]

What yall think is going to happen at the draft? Any smoke coming from there?

I think we will select Isak Rosen