Rumor: Rumours and Proposals Thread: Hyman?

[nabob]

Yes, it's a personal decision with lots of factors to take into account. And you can use that rationalization and excuse Holland's inability to secure a great player at a great cap and term. I'm calling it like it is, it's a failure to address a need on this team and a missed signing. It's exactly what it is.

if you were calling it exactly like it is you would have stopped after the bolded part.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Sign Hakanpaa and rotate Krussell in, you got yous some defense.

So Bouchard or Bear get sat every night so we can have someone defend? Feels like a waste

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Sign Hakanpaa and rotate Krussell in, you got yous some defense.

f*** Kris Russell.

 

[Not Canada Drai]

How dare we sign the d man who lead the league in points last year and did more good than he did harm. Has this bored gone completely mental????

Yes, it has. Oilers fans have a sick habit (myself included) of only looking at a players negatives except for a 2 word "good job player" in a thread until their next errant pass and then we can trade them for a bag of pucks.

We lose Barrie and we're all going to cry that we have no offense. When was the last time we had the league leader in D points (McDrai inflated or not)? It's not as easy as sticking Igor Ulanov out there and expecting him to become the next Bobby Orr because he's playing with McDavid, how many wingers do we flame to shit because they can't do anything with him?

The saving grace is my new Larsson aka Bouchard. I have the highest of hopes for him. Norris here we come.

 

[WaitingForUser]

The issue is, if you have Nurse, Keith, Barrie, Bear and Bouchard...outside of Nurse...who is actually good at defending?

Easy Barrie signs Hamonic Signs Bear is traded for a forward. Regardless if Barrie is re signed bear is being moved for a forward IMO. It’s July 21st we still have time to get a shutdown guy. Not to mention people are way under valuing what Keith will bring. He didn’t win a Norris because he had a bunch of points like Subban did.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Any news Oiler fans. I’m away from TV

 

[nabob]

But who defends next year?
You don't win much with 5/6 of your defenders being puck moving offensive d

Trade Bear for Garland, sign Hamonic and Kulikov to be a “shutdown pair”?

Not as good as Larsson, but it’s something?

I agree though we need to find balance on the back end.

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

The Cale Makar method proved effective. See how that works?

The Oilers run a 4-forward, 1-d powerplay. Nurse plays on the PP. And then what? Are you going to pay Barrie 5M, who is purely an offensive d-man, to sit on the bench on the powerplay? Either you do that, which is a terrible idea, or Bouchard doesn't play on the powerplay.

You can't possibly think Bouchard is going be Makar. Makar is a unicorn. You're going to be very disappointed if you're expexting Bouchard to go from not-NHLer to Norris candidate in a season.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

f*** Kris Russell.

Sure, but he's very good 7th defenseman.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

So Bouchard or Bear get sat every night so we can have someone defend? Feels like a waste

You move Bear for help else where.

Edit: or Bear plays on his off side.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Easy Barrie signs Hamonic Signs Bear is traded for a forward. Regardless if Barrie is re signed bear is being moved for a forward IMO. It’s July 21st we still have time to get a shutdown guy. Not to mention people are way under valuing what Keith will bring. He didn’t win a Norris because he had a bunch of points like Subban did.

That would be coreect but a lot don't want to move Bear at all

 

[nabob]

Makes sense as much sense as a guy who was reportedly a lock to sign suddenly wanting a change of scenery.

But you can pretend Holland is playing 4d chess, no one will stop you.

Reportedly a lock and also a possibility that he wasn’t going to sign at the same time depending on what rumors you choose to believe.

the only one playing 4D chess is you trying to link two unrelated events.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Sure, but he's very good 7th defenseman.

He really isn’t. He wouldn’t make most playoff squads.

 

[soothsayer]

You can't possibly think Bouchard is going be Makar. Makar is a unicorn. You're going to be very disappointed if you're expexting Bouchard to go from not-NHLer to Norris candidate in a season.

That's the joke. Bouchard isn't Makar just as Bouchard isn't Schultz.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Trade Bear for Garland, sign Hamonic and Kulikov to be a “shutdown pair”?

Not as good as Larsson, but it’s something?

I agree though we need to find balance on the back end.

See I agree but a lot think Bear and Bouchard are untouchable and Barrie is the end

Ideally we move Bear for a forward and grab a legit top pairing guy like Hamilton and sign like Savard or someone.

 

[McTonyBrar]

North of $40M over 6-7 years? Abort ABORT. This is getting to absurd levels.
And yes, I know it's just Dreger but holy f*** if that comes to fruition. That's almost exactly the Lucic contract funny, or not, funny enough.

When has Dreger been right? He was wrong about Larsson

 

[Seachd]

I think they got hosed on this one, but it's not like they need the cap space.

 

[nabob]

Believe it or not.

This is not NHL 21, you can't hold players at gunpoint and force them to sign the contract you've presented them with.

Judging by the last 2 days of your posts, you don't understand that.

You just keep upping the offer by $100k until they sign. Then you trade your draft pick plus a free agent you just signed for the #1 overall pick every year. Man being a GM would be so easy lol.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

He really isn’t. He wouldn’t make most playoff squads.

Well no sweat then.

 

[CycloneSweep]

When has Dreger been right? He was wrong about Larsson

Others have speculated 5-6 mill for 4-6 years too

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

I think they got hosed on this one, but it's not like they need the cap space.

That's awful, considering what they paid Larsson.

 

[nabob]

I think they got hosed on this one, but it's not like they need the cap space.

Huge miss by Holland. He should have worked Oleksiak last off-season and signed him this year for $3m x 3 years. Another failure by Holland

 

[rec28]

Yes, it's a personal decision with lots of factors to take into account. And you can use that rationalization and excuse Holland's inability to secure a great player at a great cap and term. I'm calling it like it is, it's a failure to address a need on this team and a missed signing. It's exactly what it is.

This is an utterly adorable take. So, your philosophy, then, is some sort of Oilers-centric solipsism? Even things that are objectively outside Holland's control are actually entirely within his control, because... reasons...?

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Guys the play isn't to go all in for a RHD this offseason. It's to get a 1 year stopgap to go along with Bouchard+Bear and then all in for Parayko/Pulock at the next offseason. Those are proven stud top pairing two way RHDs who would both realistically give Edmonton the time of day as they're from Western Canada (especially hometown boy Parayko).

Obviously this is different if Hamilton is willing to come here, but sounds like he didn't like his time in Calgary.

 

[Oilhawks]

I think they got hosed on this one, but it's not like they need the cap space.

Sweet baby Jesus that’s a lot for a guy that’s been a top 4 d man for one season at the age of 28 playing next to one of the best young D in the league