Rumor: Rumours and Proposals Thread | Breaking The (Bank On) Hyman?

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Long term deals never end up well. But that's not the point. We are in a win now mode. 4-5 years to win it all. The remaining years don't matter

This contract has the potential of going sideways very, very quickly. It's good to know we've learned nothing from the Lucic contract.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

I don't give a f*** what your opinion is, have it, if you love this move good for you.

But people who don't like this move can post too.

People who said the Reinhart trade was idiocy and the Hall trade was garbage were not "toxic". They were realistic.

Thats not what I am saying LOL, my god, im done with you..blocked.

 

[McOvechking]

There is no way I want Dougie Hamilton if the cost is going into next season with Smith/Stalock as our goaltending duo.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

This player had 0 goals in his first 21 playoff games...
You wouldn't want this guy, right?

You know who this guy is? Nik Ehlers. Ugh, who would want that guy?
Point being, it's kind of silly to judge a player based purely on playoff stats in a relatively small sample size.

He will come up with another example for his confirmation bias, wasting your breath.

 

[Gregsky99]

Tatar has done nothing in the playoffs, hyman has done nothing in the playoffs.

Tatar has been much more impactful offensively in the reg season.

They are only a year apart or so in age.

Tatar is not going to cost a monster ultra risky contract and perhaps other assets.

Why not try and sign both?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

There is no way I want Dougie Hamilton if the cost is going into next season with Smith/Stalock as our goaltending duo.

That we haven't heard anything about goalies we are interested in is very concerning.

If Smith is somehow in consideration for being the starter this season is a writeoff.

 

[oXo Cube]

A lot of people worried about future cap issues rather than the current roster.

Yeah, because future cap issues are incredibly crippling and teams feel their effects much more quickly than 'the last few seasons.'

You would think people around here would have learned that by now.

 

[Soundwave]

There is no way I want Dougie Hamilton if the cost is going into next season with Smith/Stalock as our goaltending duo.

He's not signing here anyway, Holland has no ability to actually negotiate a big boy contract, so you have nothing to worry about.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

It's almost like signing hyman does not mean other moves are not coming..some posts here are embarassing. Why worry about the cap in 6 years, the window to win is the next 1-4 years.

 

[cyberpunk]

Maybe Brandon Montour? I think he has some offence. Jani Hakanpaa for a cheap pick up with some size and physicality.

 

[Paralyzer]

People who are saying they are done with the Oilers, do you really think we care if you leave? No. Just goes to show how big of a bandwagoner you really are. They won't miss you. Neither will we. So bye and good riddance.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Yeah, because future cap issues are incredibly crippling and teams feel their effects much more quickly than 'the last few seasons.'

You would think people around here would have learned that by now.

The window to win is now..you are going to have to take a risk somewhere to get players here to make this team better.....

 

[McOvechking]

He's not signing here anyway, Holland has no ability to actually negotiate a big boy contract, so you have nothing to worry about.

I hope you're right, but Seravalli seems to think otherwise.

 

[xoczar99ox]

Ah the crazy is palatable today I see!

lol!

 

[McBigYak]

4-5 years? Source? It won't be a flat cap in 8 years lol, not even 5.

I mean, just Google flat NHL salary cap and you'll get around 20 different pieces, varying from a year ago up until a month ago.

The NHL has lost a significant amount of money. They've actually estimated in the $2.5B range. I know there is rumors Katz took a $60M USD haircut last year. I believe there is quite a bit of escrow payments due back to the owners, as they kind of bailed the players out in a sense over the pandemic.

It might not be "flat" in the literal sense. But it is very likely you could see it run completely flat for 3-4 years before slowly increasing.

 

[Snipes45]

Brad Treliving is going after more Oiler sloppy seconds. Pitlick lol

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

This contract has the potential of going sideways very, very quickly. It's good to know we've learned nothing from the Lucic contract.

You can say this with any contract ever really...if you want to win at some point you need to take some chancecs.

 

[Soundwave]

I hope you're right, but Seravalli seems to think otherwise.

"The Oilers are a dark horse contender" is basically media term for "this guy's agent is using the Oilers to get a better deal from another team".

 

[ujju2]

Tyler Pitlick is going to Calgary for a fourth. Confirmed.

Makes me sad. The Flames keep scooping up fringe depth players I have a soft spot for... first Davidson and now Pitlick... I'm glad Davidson's out of there now though.

 

[CornKicker]

The cap isn't expected to budge for 4-5 years. So, I'm not sure where you are getting this from?

its actually the opposite, with the new US TV deals the caps should be expected to rise at least 4-6% starting the year after next

 

[TheNumber4]

It's almost like signing hyman does not mean other moves are not coming..some posts here are embarassing. Why worry about the cap in 6 years, the window to win is the next 1-4 years.

Is it okay to worry about the cap I’m and the player in Year 1?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

You can say this with any contract ever really...if you want to win at some point you need to take some chancecs.

I agree but I'd rather take that risk with a better player.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

I mean, just Google flat NHL salary cap and you'll get around 20 different pieces, varying from a year ago up until a month ago.

The NHL has lost a significant amount of money. They've actually estimated in the $2.5B range. I know there is rumors Katz took a $60M USD haircut last year. I believe there is quite a bit of escrow payments due back to the owners, as they kind of bailed the players out in a sense over the pandemic.

It might not be "flat" in the literal sense. But it is very likely you could see it run completely flat for 3-4 years before slowly increasing.

Not what I am seeing hearing......

 

[space321]

Brad Treliving is going after more Oiler sloppy seconds. Pitlick lol

At least they didn't take Toronto's sloppy seconds for $40M

 

[oXo Cube]

The window to win is now..you are going to have to take a risk somewhere to get players here to make this team better.....

Being saddled with this contract will make winning harder not easier and that will be the case very early on into it's lifespan.

Feel free to quote this for later.

 

[KlefDown]

seriously, GMKH needs to put all his energy and pull to get Dougie to come here. get Connor to give him a call, get Messier, get him his favorite childhood blankie which he thought he'd lost in a house fire. we should have gotten him from Boston when Flames originally got him but Sweeney didn't want to deal with ex-GM Chiarelli. Can't let him slip again