IAGTTAYM
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Rumor: Rumours and Proposals PART6 for 2016/2017-Complaint window 1 is now open
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Jumptheshark
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we rushed them--they were not ready--keeping then onb the roster stunted their growth
but you know--you right--let keep repeating the same mistakes we have been making--double digit wasted prospects--all the fault of the player
McOvechking
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Versteeg made a choice to play in Calgary. Not sure that makes the Oilers look good at all.
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BarDownBobo
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It won't. The reaction will be 'should have offered him more money' or something of that ilk.
Seachd
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Prove it. That's what I'm asking you to do. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying there's no way for you to know.
We all knew at the time that sending Nugent-Hopkins back to the WHL wouldn't benefit him in the slightest.
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To pull a projected Flames roster from the Versteeg signing thread:
Gaudreau - Monahan - Versteeg
Tkachuk - Bennett - Brouwer
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson
Unless I'm missing something, I count ONE rookie in that starting lineup. So basically the Flames decided it was a bad idea to throw multiple rookies (one of which has never played centre before...) to fill spots.
The cup-winning Penguins will likely be running at most 1 rookie to fill in temporarily on the 4th line with Crosby out.
Looking at Dallas, I don't see any rookies:
Benn-Seguin-Eaves
Hudler-Spezza-Sharp
Roussel-Faksa-Ritchie
McKenzie-Korpikoski-Shore-Cracknell
Faksa? I thought he played on the big club last year, but even if not, that's one rookie.
I'm not going to go through every other team, but there you have 3 teams that play systems similar to what I'd hope Edmonton is running since they have McDavid. Each team is at a different stage of maturity/winning, but they all have one thing in common: they're not relying on rookies to save the day. Yet somehow Edmonton is doing this YET AGAIN.
Gaudreau - Monahan - Versteeg
Tkachuk - Bennett - Brouwer
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson
Unless I'm missing something, I count ONE rookie in that starting lineup. So basically the Flames decided it was a bad idea to throw multiple rookies (one of which has never played centre before...) to fill spots.
The cup-winning Penguins will likely be running at most 1 rookie to fill in temporarily on the 4th line with Crosby out.
Looking at Dallas, I don't see any rookies:
Benn-Seguin-Eaves
Hudler-Spezza-Sharp
Roussel-Faksa-Ritchie
McKenzie-Korpikoski-Shore-Cracknell
Faksa? I thought he played on the big club last year, but even if not, that's one rookie.
I'm not going to go through every other team, but there you have 3 teams that play systems similar to what I'd hope Edmonton is running since they have McDavid. Each team is at a different stage of maturity/winning, but they all have one thing in common: they're not relying on rookies to save the day. Yet somehow Edmonton is doing this YET AGAIN.
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It could be as simple as "Well Calgary has less depth on the RW so I have a better chance of playing there than with Edmonton". Doesn't mean we didn't treat him fairly, just a numbers game. Add in the fact that we probably had a contract for him ready to go but Chia might have wanted to wait until his injury was settled but since the Flames said they would sign him regardless of injury, he jumped.
KlimasLoveChild
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The ones who develop in the NHL are exception to the rule not the norm. McDavid for example is an exception. Not many guys like him are around.
How many times we asked ourselves, imagine RNH, Hall, Yak, Schultz had more AHL time to develop their game. There's a good chances their game would have been better long term. Caggiula and Pulju should not be any different.
McFlyingV
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There's a reason the Avs had to add a 5th round pick to move Parenteau for Briere, who at that point in his career was a 4th line player. PAP just isn't very good and he's a massive floater.
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yay they won the Versteeg sweepstakes. Woopdeedoo
Just to put this in perspective, I don't blame Versteeg since there's a good chance he will see top six time in Calgary. That's how deep we are on the wings.
Chances are he saw what was abundantly clear: he'd have a better opportunity to play top 6 minutes on the Flames.
With the Oilers he would have probably been playing on the third line.
Tw0Shoes
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In that case, chia did what he could do.
Still unfortunate about our rw situation, but I'm sure he didn't see that coming.
Cup winning Pens ran with a rookie goalie in the playoffs. A guy who had 13 regular season games under his belt....and yes Fleury was injured for a bit, but they stuck it out with Murray.
Ouch. Versteeg played us. He's a solid 3rd liner, I wanted the Oilers to sign him. He's probably not the difference between playoffs or not, but I do think it was a missed opportunity. I'm curious if the Oil offered him a deal as well, and he had a choice, or if Edmonton chose not to.
Kerricthebig
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Not really surprising. Versteeg wanted to play near his home(Lethbridge). Stupid Calgary.
Don't think it really has any statement on the Oilers at all, except that they didn't offer enough above the Flames offer to finish the deal.
McFlyingV
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It shows that Calgary's winger depth was atrocious in the top 6 and that he was never going to crack the top 6 here.
Aerrol
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And they had Fleury ready to go in case he faltered. We have Talbot and basically nobody given the Monster's track record the last few years. What's our backup plan?
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