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[IAGTTAYM]

Good thing we passed on PAP hey guys? Could never imagine a situation where we might need some extra depth. No way.

It's so dumb. But I shouldn't be surprised anymore.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I'd love a list. I'd also love to see the proof that sending Gagner back to trounce the OHL or Nugent-Hopkins the WHL would have made them better hockey players in the NHL.

we rushed them--they were not ready--keeping then onb the roster stunted their growth

but you know--you right--let keep repeating the same mistakes we have been making--double digit wasted prospects--all the fault of the player

 

[McOvechking]

The stupidity of this organization blows my mind every year.

Sign Gryba. Let Versteg walk....WTF?

This will shut the people up with the "Chia is the worst GM in the league because he can't sign Versteeg" crap.

Versteeg made a choice to play in Calgary. Not sure that makes the Oilers look good at all.

 

[Seachd]

This will shut the people up with the "Chia is the worst GM in the league because he can't sign Versteeg" crap.

Sometimes people are too impatient to be informed.

 

[Psychoil]

i'll bet 50$ versteeg scores on us if he plays tomorrow

 

[BarDownBobo]

This will shut the people up with the "Chia is the worst GM in the league because he can't sign Versteeg" crap.

It won't. The reaction will be 'should have offered him more money' or something of that ilk.

 

[Seachd]

we rushed them--they were not ready--keeping then onb the roster stunted their growth

but you know--you right--let keep repeating the same mistakes we have been making--double digit wasted prospects--all the fault of the player

Prove it. That's what I'm asking you to do. I'm not saying it didn't happen. I'm saying there's no way for you to know.

We all knew at the time that sending Nugent-Hopkins back to the WHL wouldn't benefit him in the slightest.

 

[Aerrol]

To pull a projected Flames roster from the Versteeg signing thread:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Versteeg
Tkachuk - Bennett - Brouwer
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson

Unless I'm missing something, I count ONE rookie in that starting lineup. So basically the Flames decided it was a bad idea to throw multiple rookies (one of which has never played centre before...) to fill spots.

The cup-winning Penguins will likely be running at most 1 rookie to fill in temporarily on the 4th line with Crosby out.

Looking at Dallas, I don't see any rookies:
Benn-Seguin-Eaves
Hudler-Spezza-Sharp
Roussel-Faksa-Ritchie
McKenzie-Korpikoski-Shore-Cracknell

Faksa? I thought he played on the big club last year, but even if not, that's one rookie.

I'm not going to go through every other team, but there you have 3 teams that play systems similar to what I'd hope Edmonton is running since they have McDavid. Each team is at a different stage of maturity/winning, but they all have one thing in common: they're not relying on rookies to save the day. Yet somehow Edmonton is doing this YET AGAIN.

 

[Paralyzer]

Versteeg made a choice to play in Calgary. Not sure that makes the Oilers look good at all.

It could be as simple as "Well Calgary has less depth on the RW so I have a better chance of playing there than with Edmonton". Doesn't mean we didn't treat him fairly, just a numbers game. Add in the fact that we probably had a contract for him ready to go but Chia might have wanted to wait until his injury was settled but since the Flames said they would sign him regardless of injury, he jumped.

 

[6God*]

Well looks like we got cuckolded by our Cowtown neighbors again

 

[KlimasLoveChild]

i'll bet 50$ versteeg scores on us if he plays tomorrow

I was thinking the same thing. You know it's going to happen....

 

[Canovin]

Ok, but you realize not every rookie "develops properly" in the AHL, right? That some may benefit from getting fewer minutes in a tougher league? It's a player-by-player situation.

So having a rookie who has proven he can play very well in a league likely better than the AHL on the opening roster (which doesn't mean anything anyway) doesn't seem like a huge deal to me.

Is there a permanence I'm missing here?

The ones who develop in the NHL are exception to the rule not the norm. McDavid for example is an exception. Not many guys like him are around.

How many times we asked ourselves, imagine RNH, Hall, Yak, Schultz had more AHL time to develop their game. There's a good chances their game would have been better long term. Caggiula and Pulju should not be any different.

 

[McFlyingV]

Good thing we passed on PAP hey guys? Could never imagine a situation where we might need some extra depth. No way.

There's a reason the Avs had to add a 5th round pick to move Parenteau for Briere, who at that point in his career was a 4th line player. PAP just isn't very good and he's a massive floater.

 

[nabob]

Flames have poor wing depth. Not surprised that he chose to sign there and play top 6 instead of bottom six here. He didn't have a very good preseason and is hurt. Not a big loss at all.

 

[Mr Positive]

Well looks like we got cuckolded by our Cowtown neighbors again

yay they won the Versteeg sweepstakes. Woopdeedoo

Just to put this in perspective, I don't blame Versteeg since there's a good chance he will see top six time in Calgary. That's how deep we are on the wings.

 

[North]

This will shut the people up with the "Chia is the worst GM in the league because he can't sign Versteeg" crap.

Chances are he saw what was abundantly clear: he'd have a better opportunity to play top 6 minutes on the Flames.

With the Oilers he would have probably been playing on the third line.

 

[Tw0Shoes]

This will shut the people up with the "Chia is the worst GM in the league because he can't sign Versteeg" crap.

Clearly wasn't more than 950k. Which was a mistake.

 

[the pen is mightier]

Versteeg made a choice to play in Calgary. Not sure that makes the Oilers look good at all.

Top line vs depth role? why wouldn't he go there?

 

[Hopelesslucicfan]

This will shut the people up with the "Chia is the worst GM in the league because he can't sign Versteeg" crap.

In that case, chia did what he could do.

Still unfortunate about our rw situation, but I'm sure he didn't see that coming.

 

[McXLNC97]

To pull a projected Flames roster from the Versteeg signing thread:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Versteeg
Tkachuk - Bennett - Brouwer
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson

Unless I'm missing something, I count ONE rookie in that starting lineup. So basically the Flames decided it was a bad idea to throw multiple rookies (one of which has never played centre before...) to fill spots.

The cup-winning Penguins will likely be running at most 1 rookie to fill in temporarily on the 4th line with Crosby out.

Looking at Dallas, I don't see any rookies:
Benn-Seguin-Eaves
Hudler-Spezza-Sharp
Roussel-Faksa-Ritchie
McKenzie-Korpikoski-Shore-Cracknell

Faksa? I thought he played on the big club last year, but even if not, that's one rookie.

I'm not going to go through every other team, but there you have 3 teams that play systems similar to what I'd hope Edmonton is running since they have McDavid. Each team is at a different stage of maturity/winning, but they all have one thing in common: they're not relying on rookies to save the day. Yet somehow Edmonton is doing this YET AGAIN.

Cup winning Pens ran with a rookie goalie in the playoffs. A guy who had 13 regular season games under his belt....and yes Fleury was injured for a bit, but they stuck it out with Murray.

 

[UnicornONtheCOBB]

Ouch. Versteeg played us. He's a solid 3rd liner, I wanted the Oilers to sign him. He's probably not the difference between playoffs or not, but I do think it was a missed opportunity. I'm curious if the Oil offered him a deal as well, and he had a choice, or if Edmonton chose not to.

 

[Kerricthebig]

Versteeg made a choice to play in Calgary. Not sure that makes the Oilers look good at all.

Not really surprising. Versteeg wanted to play near his home(Lethbridge). Stupid Calgary.

Don't think it really has any statement on the Oilers at all, except that they didn't offer enough above the Flames offer to finish the deal.

 

[NoDust33]

To pull a projected Flames roster from the Versteeg signing thread:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Versteeg
Tkachuk - Bennett - Brouwer
Ferland - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Stajan - Chiasson

Unless I'm missing something, I count ONE rookie in that starting lineup. So basically the Flames decided it was a bad idea to throw multiple rookies (one of which has never played centre before...) to fill spots.

The cup-winning Penguins will likely be running at most 1 rookie to fill in temporarily on the 4th line with Crosby out.

Looking at Dallas, I don't see any rookies:
Benn-Seguin-Eaves
Hudler-Spezza-Sharp
Roussel-Faksa-Ritchie
McKenzie-Korpikoski-Shore-Cracknell

Faksa? I thought he played on the big club last year, but even if not, that's one rookie.

I'm not going to go through every other team, but there you have 3 teams that play systems similar to what I'd hope Edmonton is running since they have McDavid. Each team is at a different stage of maturity/winning, but they all have one thing in common: they're not relying on rookies to save the day. Yet somehow Edmonton is doing this YET AGAIN.

How many rookies did Pittsburgh start last year?

 

[McFlyingV]

Versteeg made a choice to play in Calgary. Not sure that makes the Oilers look good at all.

It shows that Calgary's winger depth was atrocious in the top 6 and that he was never going to crack the top 6 here.

 

[Aerrol]

Cup winning Pens ran with a rookie goalie in the playoffs. A guy who had 13 regular season games under his belt.

And they had Fleury ready to go in case he faltered. We have Talbot and basically nobody given the Monster's track record the last few years. What's our backup plan?