Yeah I think Perreault is a good player but I don't think he is any better than Tanev or Copp and at his cap hit, he is the casualty. Both are tracking to be similar players to Perreault and are cheaper, less injury prone and younger.
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Yeah I think Perreault is a good player but I don't think he is any better than Tanev or Copp and at his cap hit, he is the casualty. Both are tracking to be similar players to Perreault and are cheaper, less injury prone and younger.
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I really like Copp, but from the numbers Garrett9 have posted he doesn't seem to have the same positive influence on his linemates that MP85 has had, and Tanev isn't even close. Are you arguing for the combo of Copp + Tanev over MP. or that either is capable of replacing him at less cost?
I'm a bit puzzled at all the Duchene love here -- the "locker-room cancer" narrative seems to have followed him for a long time, and I just don't see him as a PoMo/Chevy/True North player. If Stone's in our sights do we need a rental Duchene at any price?
I'm nervous as hell about all this. Wonder if the Jets' uneven play of the past few months is maybe forcing Chevy's hand a bit.
Stastny was also interested in sticking here -- until he wasn't. Plenty of risk here.
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Yeh Stone brings something we definitely lack on the wing. Could be a very key piece.
We have to remember Tanev is 4 years younger than Perreault and Copp is 7 years younger. Both are producing at a similar rate and are much better on the PK. Tanev's entry and exit stats blow Perreaults out of the water and Copp is proving to be a very useful 4th line center in a pinch. Perreault wont even play center anymore because of a nagging injury. Both are right now more valuable to me long term than Perreault.
Can they get Stone as a rental with the agreement that they'll send another prospect, player, pick at the time of Stone signing a long term deal? Like can they give 1st, Stanley, Petan and an agreement to send Roslovic in the off-season if Stone signs an extension?
Never seen it done. Future considerations is a thing so maybe. Usually they just add extra picks for stuff like that.
You mean like conditional picks? Not sure I've seen it done with roster players.
I believe they can. They'd have to agree on a specific player or list for futures.
So a team could easily keep their player knowing they are a rental because if X happens that player then belongs to the other team. That just gives a team one extra top 6 player or top 4 D.
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Doesn't happen often just because adds a variable and there's still a quarter season to play. I'd imagine if the Jets wanted an IOU for say Roslovic, Ottawa would insist on the Jets adding something else to the deal like another pick.
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The Sens don't have a 1st to add.
Ohhh! you meant the other way. NO!
You were on the right track when you said straight up. Don't backtrack.
I wonder if the Sens would include one of their young Defenceman if it would get them one of the Jets A prospects in the Stone deal.
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Not sure if serious or sarcastic - but sadly, that is about right value, I think. Sadly at least for Pulju, if you don't yet pity Oilers fans.
The closer this thing gets to the deadline, the better it might be for us.
Ottawa might be pressured to take the best offer by then otherwise they’ll get nothing for their UFAs.
Even it’s not as strong as our previous offer(s), on deadline day Dorion will be under the gun and might take it on the run.
Why wouldn't the Jets say the Sens got fair market value for the rental. They are only getting an additional player/prospect at the time of the signing. If Stone doesn't sign, they don't get the extra add.
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Kuli doesn't do it anyway. His cap is for only 1 more year. I'm assuming you want to sign Stone for a lot more term than that.
^ What he said.
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I thought I remember seeing an interview, although can’t recall specifically which one, think maybe it was hometown hockey night, and that Stastny really did want to stay in Winnipeg. He liked the direction they were going and thought he could contribute but after really thinking about it opted against resigning because he didn’t want to handicap them cap wise. He knew the young crew on ELCs were needing to be signed and decided to screw up Vegas’ cap instead.
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He played 33 games this year before getting hurt again. This one was minor. He could have played last night. He has mostly played pretty well.
If his value is low and he can't earn his contract we aren't going to be able to trade him without paying someone to take him or retaining a fair amount. So what's the point? One more year to go and then he just disappears.
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