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Soundwave

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Even Cam Talbot would have been a great choice, but we know his wife and him would probably have never came back lol

He is 6th in Save% Above Expected
4th in goals saved above expected

He is basically up there in most stats (played 7 games thus far)


I remember him popping out of nowhere during that 2004 lockout. Surprised he is still around. Would be nice if true.

The Oilers should have brought him back on the cheap multiple times in the last 4-5 years (they had chances to do so).

Instead the front offices here prefer to smell their own farts and let it ride on the Koskinens and Skinners of the world, even though Talbot is a better goalie than those guys.
 
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I think they got scared in part by how much Bouchard's camp could use that as leverage. If Broberg is 4.6m for basically 7-8 decent games, then what is Bouchard, who put up Paul Coffey like record breaking numbers in the playoffs worth.

12 million?
I don't see how it could be used as a comparison since it was an offer sheet. Bouchard would be comparing to players like Makar, Fox and Hughes, which is much worse for us.
 
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That's not even a real question. It's yes, no matter how Bouchard plays.
You keep me entertained by your stubbornness and bias to certain players. Addition by Subtraction for Ceci (duh). No one can argue that Bouch has been any better than Nurse this year. He has been brutally lazy and giving it away.

Did you watch the last game, can you except that Nurse was better than Bouch? If not then you either didn't watch the game or are just bias.

Another question, how much would you pay Bouch for his next contract?
 

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For those who rag on Skinner all the time take note Sheshterkin let in 5 goals on 19 shots as did Nedelikovac
Because he hasn’t earned a little more rope at all…

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Gimme Blackwood and Ferraro:

Ferraro-Bouchard
Nurse-Ekholm
Kulak-Emberson
Dermott/Stecher

Blackwood
Pickard
Skinner

Would need a third team to retain on the Sharks players since they can't, but that will be the cost of business for San Jose to move anyone this year.
Ferraro is a great target.
 

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TBF, he was kind of the same to start last year. A lot of people were saying get rid of him, he's not going to be worth it, PP specialist only etc

We'll see by the 25 game-ish mark. Granted, I do wish he'd have more points by now but idiot would rather throw a wrister or pass off than to throw a bomb on the PP more often than I like
The common denominator there seems to be that Ekholm was hurt to start last year and took some time to get going, and arguably hasn’t been himself to start this year either. It’s a little short sighted to want to get rid of him, but at the same time giving a guy a 7 figure AAV on his next contract when he’s really only found success paired with Ekholm is also a scary thought when you know Ekholm’s decline is coming.
 
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The common denominator there seems to be that Ekholm was hurt to start last year and took some time to get going, and arguably hasn’t been himself to start this year either. It’s a little short sighted to want to get rid of him, but at the same time giving a guy a 7 figure AAV on his next contract when he’s really only found success paired with Ekholm is also a scary thought when you know Ekholm’s decline is coming.
Ekholm has a been a beast to start this year though. Best player from the preseason to now.
 
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You keep me entertained by your stubbornness and bias to certain players. Addition by Subtraction for Ceci (duh). No one can argue that Bouch has been any better than Nurse this year. He has been brutally lazy and giving it away.

Did you watch the last game, can you except that Nurse was better than Bouch? If not then you either didn't watch the game or are just bias.

Another question, how much would you pay Bouch for his next contract?
$10M+ likely what he will earn.

It's not so much that I'm stubborn as much as you guys only use recency bias to make calls on players.

Bouchard's last game leaves so much to be desired, but he's the best defenseman on the team and he's miles better than Nurse, it's not even f***ing close.

He has his style of play, and I get you want him to be something else, but he's not, he's Evan Bouchard. You either realize what he is and understand the elite talent, or he's another guy run out of town, and then we have endless conversations about running him out of town.

not really if you look at ice time opportunities etc.
No, it's absolute lie and this is doubling down on that lie for the lolz?
 
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Soundwave

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$10M+ likely what he will earn.

It's not so much that I'm stubborn as much as you guys only use recency bias to make calls on players.

Bouchard's last game leaves so much to be desired, but he's the best defenseman on the team and he's miles better than Nurse, it's not even f***ing close.

He has his style of play, and I get you want him to be something else, but he's not, he's Evan Bouchard. You either realize what he is and understand the elite talent, or he's another guy run out of town, and then we have endless conversations about running him out of town.


No, it's absolute lie and this is doubling down on that lie for the lolz?

Bruce Boudreau tore into Bouchard for the Vegas game on TSN, lol


No doubt that was not a good game for him.

The funny thing is the guys most of this board were shitting on as being liabilities like Stetcher and Emberson (we MUST upgrade!!!) aren't the ones losing us games. Those guys have largely been fine.
 

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Maybe they didn’t think their plan all the way through this summer. Certainly nobody at the table played Devils Advocate which is always a critical error at the boardroom table.

It appears more and more like the Oilers perhaps have a bunch of yes men and women at the table who nod their heads subserviently to whomever is occupying the throne that day.
 
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Bruce Boudreau tore into Bouchard for the Vegas game on TSN, lol

Totally, he was bad, likely cost them the game. I mean assuming the only logical thing, this will be his future production and play, the Oilers should look to shed him quick, Nurse can play those minutes without any issues it seems.
 

timekeep

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$10M+ likely what he will earn.

It's not so much that I'm stubborn as much as you guys only use recency bias to make calls on players.

Bouchard's last game leaves so much to be desired, but he's the best defenseman on the team and he's miles better than Nurse, it's not even f***ing close.

He has his style of play, and I get you want him to be something else, but he's not, he's Evan Bouchard. You either realize what he is and understand the elite talent, or he's another guy run out of town, and then we have endless conversations about running him out of town.


No, it's absolute lie and this is doubling down on that lie for the lolz?
I disagree that he is the best dman on the team, unfortunately we only have one to consider (Ekholm) and he is getting old. But its not only this last game for me to form my opinion of Bouch, he has two major flaws, but I'm not going to change your mind. His effort and awareness. He has a bomb and is a product of the PP led by two superstars. People can't just go off his stats.

But you don't see it that way if you only think it was the most recent game.
 

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$10M+ likely what he will earn.

It's not so much that I'm stubborn as much as you guys only use recency bias to make calls on players.

Bouchard's last game leaves so much to be desired, but he's the best defenseman on the team and he's miles better than Nurse, it's not even f***ing close.

He has his style of play, and I get you want him to be something else, but he's not, he's Evan Bouchard. You either realize what he is and understand the elite talent, or he's another guy run out of town, and then we have endless conversations about running him out of town.


No, it's absolute lie and this is doubling down on that lie for the lolz?
How so? Bouchard gets way more offensive time, way less defensive starts, light years better line-mate, more pp time, more time with the top line and has the same amount of points. Obviously he’s a way better player but he hasn’t played like it.
 
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Maybe they didn’t think their plan all the way through this summer. Certainly nobody at the table played Devils Advocate which is always a critical error at the boardroom table.

It appears more and more like the Oilers perhaps have a bunch of yes men and women at the table who nod their heads subserviently to whomever is occupying the throne that day.
Somebody did but all of us laughed at him.


I can’t find the original video clip anymore though but it was hilarious.
 
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Soundwave

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Keep running Skinner out of town as his replacement will be just as bad under the same tutelage.

Also anyone preferring Nurse over Bouchard is absolutely out to lunch.

I do have to say that effort on that 1st goal against is embarrassing. Maybe it would happen to Nurse too, but he'd definitely bust his ass to try and catch the guy at least.
 
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I do have to say that effort on that 1st goal against is embarrassing. Maybe it would happen to Nurse too, but he'd definitely bust his ass to try and catch the guy at least.
Does Nurse actually try, though? We're all grasping for any sort of positive from this player. "He's not complete trash" is the best we can manage.
 

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