Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's the Beef?

[BarDownBobo]

I can't see there being a claim just because the only realistic way for them to clear cap after Kane gets back is moving Arvidsson or Henrique because they don't have NTC/NMCs and I wouldn't say trading either of them after giving them two year deals is all that realistic.

So, playing around with Puckpedia’s GM tool and they could actually fit him fairly easily even when Kane comes back. One of Dermott/Stecher and Ryan to the minors would give them enough space, even allowing them to keep an extra defender around. Unless I’m missing something with their tool when it comes to the buyouts/overage penalty….

 

[Oilhawks]

Did you just create a whole narrative to get upset about?

Inventing narratives is the real sport on these forums

 

[Reasonable Oil Fan]

You can add as many sweeteners as you want, doesn’t matter if the player won’t waive, which he won’t.

That’s also true
I guess I was saying that perhaps it’s a moot point. I suspect it would be difficult to find a taker for that contract in the first place

 

[McDNicks17]

So, playing around with Puckpedia’s GM tool and they could actually fit him fairly easily even when Kane comes back. One of Dermott/Stecher and Ryan to the minors would give them enough space, even allowing them to keep an extra defender around. Unless I’m missing something with their tool when it comes to the buyouts/overage penalty….

Good call. Didn't realize we have like $1.3M in space right now, so dropping a couple $800k-900k guys definitely does.

I guess it comes down to accruing. Is a free Fabbro worth the cap you'd accrue without him for the deadline? Going to be a tough call.

 

[McHelpus]

Good call. Didn't realize we have like $1.3M in space right now, so dropping a couple $800k-900k guys definitely does.

I guess it comes down to accruing. Is a free Fabbro worth the cap you'd accrue without him for the deadline? Going to be a tough call.

You know the answer.

 

[McDNicks17]

You know the answer.

I don't know. If Nashville is literally giving him away, is he going to be the final piece to this D core for the playoffs?

 

[foshizzle]

Other than watching the actual gameplay, no evidence or facts at all.

So you’re bias because nothing else supports your take

 

[Vagabond]

Accrued cap + trade for an upgrade >> Fabby Boy. The issue is tho, with the Oil.. will they even be in contention at the tdl? Lol

 

[CycloneSweep]

Oilers would be clinically insane not to grab him.

Which is why they won’t.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Good call. Didn't realize we have like $1.3M in space right now, so dropping a couple $800k-900k guys definitely does.

I guess it comes down to accruing. Is a free Fabbro worth the cap you'd accrue without him for the deadline? Going to be a tough call.

Is there room on the Condors for 2 more veteran contracts?
I thought were only had room for one created by the Attard trade.
Someone would either have to get claimed or traded if that is the case.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Accrued cap + trade for an upgrade >> Fabby Boy. The issue is tho, with the Oil.. will they even be in contention at the tdl? Lol

There’s few if any actual right handed trade deadline guys out there though. It’s super slim pickings.

 

[McDNicks17]

Is there room on the Condors for 2 more veteran contracts?
I thought were only had room for one created by the Attard trade.
Someone would either have to get claimed or traded if that is the case.

You can send them down, but they wouldn't be able to dress.

Not really an ideal situation.

 

[BarDownBobo]

You can send them down, but they wouldn't be able to dress.

Not really an ideal situation.

Wouldn’t be an issue until Kane is healthy though so lots of time to figure that out. Could also very well just have Ryan sit out and rejuvenate in case he’s needed on the playoff run.

 

[CupofOil]

If you were targeting a RHD that may be available at the deadline, Fabbro would have been near the top of your list.

Now you can get him without sending out any assets? This is why Bowman makes 5 million a year. Figure it out Stan.

Keep your assets to add goaltending at the deadline.

Uh, Fabbro will be claimed well before the Oilers get a chance so there goes that.

Time to cry over waiver wire players again? Lets gooo

Crying over a waiver wire player that has no chance to make it to the Oilers but, yeah, Fire Stan rabble rabble rabble because he won't claim a player that won't be there to claim.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Good call. Didn't realize we have like $1.3M in space right now, so dropping a couple $800k-900k guys definitely does.

I guess it comes down to accruing. Is a free Fabbro worth the cap you'd accrue without him for the deadline? Going to be a tough call.

Interesting. Saving the assets we would have to spend at the TDL for a top 4 D would be nice though.

 

[McShogun99]

I don't know. If Nashville is literally giving him away, is he going to be the final piece to this D core for the playoffs?

I think management has their eyes on a certain player and will get him closer to the deadline. We're probably stuck with the current team until then unless we start really falling out of the race.

 

[Scrapin Ice]

I think management has their eyes on a certain player and will get him closer to the deadline. We're probably stuck with the current team until then unless we start really falling out of the race.

Unfortunately this is probably true. Who knows what could happen to said player in the next 4 months.
I'd prefer we waive one of the three (likely Dermott) and bring in a basic Nurse complement in the meantime. (not Fabbro). This still doesn't hurt our cap for the deadline.

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

So you’re bias because nothing else supports your take

Nothing else other than my 15+ years of coaching, player evaluation, development and Hockey Canada coaching credentials, nope.

Bouchard has had his struggles this year and is far below the bar he set for himself in the playoffs and the last 2/3rd of the season. He has shown he is capable of far more and hope he can find his game sooner than later.

Kane is already on LTIR.

I thought they pulled him off of LTIR when they sent down Cagguilla and Philp?
edit - just checked Puckpedia and he is still on LTIR as you say....which is most confusing. I thought they wanted to accrue cap space????

 

[Vagabond]

There’s few if any actual right handed trade deadline guys out there though. It’s super slim pickings.

I don't disagree but at the same time I feel our defense has gotten softer and way smaller since last season. He looks very underwhelming.

I'm sure there'll be more options closer to The TDL.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Uh, Fabbro will be claimed well before the Oilers get a chance so there goes that.


Crying over a waiver wire player that has no chance to make it to the Oilers but, yeah, Fire Stan rabble rabble rabble because he won't claim a player that won't be there to claim.

So what. Let's just hope Stan is on the job and at least puts in a claim. That stuff leaks out.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

Fabbro is interesting. But he's a 3RD guy who at age 26 might have some mid pair potential however the Oilers have their project guy in Emberson and two cheap journeyman clogging up their roster. Price point is a sticky wicket.

Fabbro's likely an upgrade on the bottom three RD but would it be enough to blow through the cap bucks being warchessed to hope to acquire at trade deadline?

 

[Soli]

According to what he's been hearing, Friedman thinks Fabbro's $2.5M is going to be too prohibitive for teams and that he'll go unclaimed.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

According to what he's been hearing, Friedman thinks Fabbro's $2.5M is going to be too prohibitive for teams and that he'll go unclaimed.

That would be nuts

 

[foshizzle]

Nothing else other than my 15+ years of coaching, player evaluation, development and Hockey Canada coaching credentials, nope.

Bouchard has had his struggles this year and is far below the bar he set for himself in the playoffs and the last 2/3rd of the season. He has shown he is capable of far more and hope he can find his game sooner than later.



I thought they pulled him off of LTIR when they sent down Cagguilla and Philp?
edit - just checked Puckpedia and he is still on LTIR as you say....which is most confusing. I thought they wanted to accrue cap space????

That’s right. Nothing to back it up. There’s been numerous coaching and scouting that has gotten plenty wrong. You’re basically stating your bias.

 

[belair]

That would be nuts

Not really. The guy has been pretty vanilla outside of one season a few years back. I could see Utah claiming just due to their injury situation and available cap. But the Oilers should absolutely not put their cap situation into question for a defenseman of his caliber.