Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's the Beef?

[GOilers88]

Cheering for a team is one thing but draping yourself in another teams colors after you just signed a contract with a competitive team is a step too far.
Just imagine if the Oilers signed a player and then we see that player on TV, days later, in another arena draped in another teams colors cheering them on.

This place would have a meltdown.

HFOil and a meltdown.

Like peanut butter and jam.

 

[samiam]

Here is the thing, The NHLPA are trying to stop players from taking home town discounts. Allan Walsh is doing a lot of grunt work behind the scenes to get all agents to press the players to get the most they can regardless of where




Hossa signed that 15 year deal where we all pointed to the exact moment he would go on the LTIR and he did

This really surprises me in that every extra dollar that a player/agent squeezes a team for, just means less for all the other players.
The pie is only so big (and a fixed size), this mentality only leaves crumbs leftover for the majority of the other remaining players.

 

[McShogun99]

This really surprises me in that every extra dollar that a player/agent squeezes a team for, just means less for all the other players.
The pie is only so big (and a fixed size), this mentality only leaves crumbs leftover for the majority of the other remaining players.

You’d think the NHLPA would want to spread the wealth among all the players but it seems like they just care about what the guys at the top make.

 

[McTonyBrar]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852769677698814373

So back next week. What a super human

 

[5 Mins 4 Ftg]

HFOil and a meltdown.

Like peanut butter and jam.

 

[Spawn]

This team has too many 4th liners as is. Trading for Kostin feels too much like hoping you can rekindle magic that probably still isn’t there.

 

[The Nuge]

Cheering for a team is one thing but draping yourself in another teams colors after you just signed a contract with a competitive team is a step too far.
Just imagine if the Oilers signed a player and then we see that player on TV, days later, in another arena draped in his former teams colors cheering them on.

This place would have a meltdown.

I don’t know. Like, I understand the frustration, but he was literally wearing his own jersey and his current team was eliminated after finishing in the bottom of the basement.

 

[unicornBLOOD]

This team has too many 4th liners as is. Trading for Kostin feels too much like hoping you can rekindle magic that probably still isn’t there.

I disagree, we might have a few too many that are currently producing like 4th liners, but I don't feel any of the following are 4th liners when they are playing well.

McDavid
Draisaitl
RNH
Hyman
Arviddson
Skinner
Henrique
Brown
Kane

These guys would fit the 4th liner status imo...

D. Ryan
Perry (could play up in the lien up to fill in - short term)
Pod (has potential to be more)
Philp
Janmark


all that being said, I like the depth on this team, and I do like what Kostin had brought to the Oil on his first stint. At 50% retained, I'd love him on the 4th line. Not sure if they could swing it, but if it was super cheap and made sense, why not?

 

[Oilslick941611]

Cheering for a team is one thing but draping yourself in another teams colors after you just signed a contract with a competitive team is a step too far.
Just imagine if the Oilers signed a player and then we see that player on TV, days later, in another arena draped in his former teams colors cheering them on.

This place would have a meltdown.

its a business for players, especially after they learn the lesson they are expendable. I dont think any NHLer has any qualms about Kostin putting on an Oiler jersey at an Oiler game as a member of another team. Its literally just a coloured shirt at that point.

You can argue about loyalty and colours being sacred...for the fans. for the players, the team is where the loyalties lie and the team are the people, not colours.

Also this melts down over the stupidest stuff, i dont hold any value in an argument that ends with "this place would meltdown" Like, posters melted down this summer when Bowman didn't immediately publicly issue a statement on the offersheet and went to wildly insane theories on what oilers management was doing like being on vacation, sleeping etc... This place melts down and GIVES up on games when its 1-0 or the team is down early.

 

[Oilslick941611]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852769677698814373

So back next week. What a super human

just as long as he is healed.

I dont want him coming back early like he did last year, He didn't and doesn't look right and im convinced he is still bothered by his injuries from last season. In fact i think the reason he's out now is an irritation of that injury from last year. He isn't shooting, he isn't beating anyone with speed, he can't deke properly like he used to and his passing looks off.

 

[Soundwave]

Dylan Strome is a player on pace for (checks notes) 132 points this year. Really wanted the Oilers to get in on him when he could have been had for cheap. Aside from the obvious connections to McDavid, he's just a good player.

Stan Bowman acquired him when he was in Chicago and then Chicago let him walk after Bowman resigned for basically nothing.

Washington got a top 3 pick basically for nothing but a 3.5 mill/1 year contract in summer 2022, lol. Absolute highway robbery.

 

[McFlyingV]

Assuming Calgary falls off, which I think they will, I would have my #1 target for the deadline as Rasmus Andersson. As much as he's annoyed me in the past he checks basically every box for what the Oilers are looking for beside Nurse. Decent size and grit, RH, mobile, good puck mover, 2-way with quite a bit of offensive upside, and a 2nd year left on his deal.

I know this team is seriously lacking on future cheap options so trading the few options we have is tough to stomach, but I'd have no issue giving up the 2026 1st, and one maybe even two of Akey, Savoie, or O'Rielly for 50% retention. Hell the Flames seem to love Russians, and Beryozkin's stock might be sky high at the deadline if he keeps it up with the season he's been having so far.

Who knows if the Flames will actually be looking to move him. They might try to re-sign him this summer, but I think once they fall back to earth they might realize that they're still a few years off with this young group and might consider something like this.

 

[Fourier]

You’d think the NHLPA would want to spread the wealth among all the players but it seems like they just care about what the guys at the top make.

Or maybe the claim is just not accurate since it comes up all the time with no evidence to support it.

 

[McFlyingV]

Dylan Strome is a player on pace for (checks notes) 132 points this year. Really wanted the Oilers to get in on him when he could have been had for cheap. Aside from the obvious connections to McDavid, he's just a good player.

Stan Bowman acquired him when he was in Chicago and then Chicago let him walk after Bowman resigned for basically nothing.

Washington got a top 3 pick basically for nothing but a 3.5 mill/1 year contract, lol. Highway robbery.

And this is why you don't buy in on early season hype and projections. Strome is a quality player, but he'll probably finish the way he has the past 3 seasons in the 60-70 point range. He's not even close to a star player, but he is a useful one and there's guys like this who good management groups find every year. Burakovsky was another example of a similar player when Colorado picked him up. The thing with players like this is they still rely heavily on the situation they're put into. These are players who will fit and excel in certain circumstances, but will struggle or have down years in others.

 

[guymez]

I don’t know. Like, I understand the frustration, but he was literally wearing his own jersey and his current team was eliminated after finishing in the bottom of the basement.

I am not frustrated by it at all.
I just think that it was a poor decision on his part.
I dont think it matters where his team finished.
He can show up and watch any game he wants but once you sign with a team you simply cant have an opposing teams jersey as part of your attire.
The optics are terrible.

its a business for players, especially after they learn the lesson they are expendable. I dont think any NHLer has any qualms about Kostin putting on an Oiler jersey at an Oiler game as a member of another team. Its literally just a coloured shirt at that point.

You can argue about loyalty and colours being sacred...for the fans. for the players, the team is where the loyalties lie and the team are the people, not colours.

Also this melts down over the stupidest stuff, i dont hold any value in an argument that ends with "this place would meltdown" Like, posters melted down this summer when Bowman didn't immediately publicly issue a statement on the offersheet and went to wildly insane theories on what oilers management was doing like being on vacation, sleeping etc... This place melts down and GIVES up on games when its 1-0 or the team is down early.

As I mentioned above the optics are very bad. Just imagine for a moment...we sign Hyman and after the Oilers were eliminated he went to a Toronto game with their jersey draped over his back.

I agree that this place tends to melt down over nothing but if the above scenario played out then it would be somewhat jusitifed IMO.
I wouldnt get emotional about it but as an Oilers fan I sure wouldnt be impressed.

Would you really be okay with it?

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

And this is why you don't buy in on early season hype and projections. Strome is a quality player, but he'll probably finish the way he has the past 3 seasons in the 60-70 point range. He's not even close to a star player, but he is a useful one and there's guys like this who good management groups find every year. Burakovsky was another example of a similar player when Colorado picked him up. The thing with players like this is they still rely heavily on the situation they're put into. These are players who will fit and excel in certain circumstances, but will struggle or have down years in others.

70 points at 3.5 mil is a steal. I thought he was gonna be a bust but it looks like he just needed time to develop. He never gets more than 17 mins TOI but he scores more the last 3-4 seasons, just consistently taking little steps forward. Also he’s become pretty good on the dot the last few years too.

He probably gets a nice contract after this season even if he slows down and only hits 70 points.

 

[Soundwave]

And this is why you don't buy in on early season hype and projections. Strome is a quality player, but he'll probably finish the way he has the past 3 seasons in the 60-70 point range. He's not even close to a star player, but he is a useful one and there's guys like this who good management groups find every year. Burakovsky was another example of a similar player when Colorado picked him up. The thing with players like this is they still rely heavily on the situation they're put into. These are players who will fit and excel in certain circumstances, but will struggle or have down years in others.

He'll probably get 75-80 this year I think. They got something cooking there in Wash.

But even to get a 60 point center basically for free off the UFA market for only 3.5 million (at the time) spend is a massive slam dunk. It's not even like he was coming off a terrible season, he just scored 22 goals.

This guy can be an All-Star range player IMO, he was taken no.3 overall for a reason.

I always felt like we should take a shot on him, obviously he being McDavid's best friend doesn't hurt.

Anyways, maybe that's a plus for Bowman because he did take a chance on Strome, looks like his replacement blew it by letting him walk for nothing.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Here is the thing, The NHLPA are trying to stop players from taking home town discounts. Allan Walsh is doing a lot of grunt work behind the scenes to get all agents to press the players to get the most they can regardless of where




Hossa signed that 15 year deal where we all pointed to the exact moment he would go on the LTIR and he did

This isn’t happen, but keep repeating it.

There’s a salary cap, top players making more money doesn’t mean there’s more money to go around.

So many idiots on this site don’t understand that

 

[Soundwave]

I am not frustrated by it at all.
I just think that it was a poor decision on his part.
I dont think it matters where his team finished.
He can show up and watch any game he wants but once you sign with a team you simply cant have an opposing teams jersey as part of your attire.
The optics are terrible.


As I mentioned above the optics are very bad. Just imagine for a moment...we sign Hyman and after the Oilers were eliminated he went to a Toronto game with their jersey draped over his back.

I agree that this place tends to melt down over nothing but if the above scenario played out then it would be somewhat jusitifed IMO.
I wouldnt get emotional about it but as an Oilers fan I sure wouldnt be impressed.

Would you really be okay with it?

If the Sharks-Oilers had any kind of rivalry I guess ... but if no one in San Jose basically cared, I'm not sure why you should, lol.

He likes Edmonton a lot, it's pretty clear.

 

[Oilslick941611]

I am not frustrated by it at all.
I just think that it was a poor decision on his part.
I dont think it matters where his team finished.
He can show up and watch any game he wants but once you sign with a team you simply cant have an opposing teams jersey as part of your attire.
The optics are terrible.


As I mentioned above the optics are very bad. Just imagine for a moment...we sign Hyman and after the Oilers were eliminated he went to a Toronto game with their jersey draped over his back.

I agree that this place tends to melt down over nothing but if the above scenario played out then it would be somewhat jusitifed IMO.
I wouldnt get emotional about it but as an Oilers fan I sure wouldnt be impressed.

Would you really be okay with it?

I don’t think I would really care. It’s a game. It’s not life or death.

 

[McDoused]

Haven't had a chance to catch up. Any legit rumors lately?

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Has anyone really paid attention to Matt Benning recently? Sounds like Toronto is looking to flip him. I’d maybe give a late pick just to see if he’s a better fit on the 3rd pair.

 

[McDNicks17]

Has anyone really paid attention to Matt Benning recently? Sounds like Toronto is looking to flip him. I’d maybe give a late pick just to see if he’s a better fit on the 3rd pair.

His metrics are borderline worst in the league since he left here.

 

[brentashton]

Has anyone really paid attention to Matt Benning recently? Sounds like Toronto is looking to flip him. I’d maybe give a late pick just to see if he’s a better fit on the 3rd pair.

f*** no.

Haven't had a chance to catch up. Any legit rumors lately?

I hear Puff Daddy might have some legal issues in his future. Other than that, quiet.

 

[jukon]

If Schneider can be plucked from NYR somehow, I'd jump on it before his value gets even higher.

I can't see them keeping him long term unless they move away from Trouba, which as much as fans want, I dont know what management wants.