Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Where's the Beef?

[CycloneSweep]

This doesn’t change anything. They’ll be able to add ~$8m worth of players with retention at the deadline. Could be more if they could get double retention.

I’m a perfect world.
we have a single extra defender. If we have any injuries to the forward group we will basically stop accruing cap.
And double retention is not something we can really swing with our laughable prospect pool and assets too.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I wonder if Shattenkirk looks at J. Schultz and is getting a little itchier to sign for cheaper with a NHL team like us?

 

[McTonyBrar]

Darnell is trash. He has stopped being physical, he can’t think or move the puck quickly, he’s not a PP specialist. He’s a D liability often. He isn’t top 3 in the majority of current NHL markets.

I hope he can play top 4 on the off wing here and the team can find a LHD partner at the TDL, but just think about that for a bit…top4 on his off wing when he isn’t top 3 on his natural side.

It doesn’t bode well. But I’m hoping…

lol Darnell is better than Bouchard right now

 

[brentashton]

lol Darnell is better than Bouchard right now

Ya, it’s a pretty low bar to be better than someone else on that Oiler D so far this season. No one is close to playing their best game.

 

[McDoused]

Ya, it’s a pretty low bar to be better than someone else on that Oiler D so far this season. No one is close to playing their best game.

No one is playing to their potential right now and we saw the same group go through the same situation last year. This isn't a roster construction or even coaching issue. At some point the players need to look around and figure things out. The team is too talented and hasn't put in the work defensively.

 

[Vagabond]

I don’t think he would have been interested in a league minimum 2 way AHL 400k deal.

Probably not a 2-way but at 900k I'm pretty sure he would've.

 

[Oilslick941611]

This essentially guarantees we can’t change the team almost at all outside of adding a cheap middle pair d.

Oh well.

That was always the plan. Why do you think the focus was on accruing as much cap space as possible?

I wonder if Shattenkirk looks at J. Schultz and is getting a little itchier to sign for cheaper with a NHL team like us?

I don’t think an Offensive D man like him is an answer for us. It’s using valuable an asset on a type of player that doesn’t make us better.

 

[Bryanbryoil]

That was always the plan. Why do you think the focus was on accruing as much cap space as possible?


I don’t think an Offensive D man like him is an answer for us. It’s using valuable an asset on a type of player that doesn’t make us better.

Right now we have 2 defensemen that can create offense, 3 if you include Nurse.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Right now we have 2 defensemen that can create offense, 3 if you include Nurse.

Icings don't count.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Right now we have 2 defensemen that can create offense, 3 if you include Nurse.

Team is shooting 6%

If you ramp that up to their average it suddenly fixes everything but goaltending.

We aren’t going to be shooting 6% all season.

 

[McShogun99]

I know a lot of people are in love with the idea of LTIRing Kane until playoffs, but to me getting Kane up to speed with 6 weeks+ of games is a much more ideal situation. Trying to get him up to speed in the heat of a playoff series is a risky proposition and to me a healthy Kane who’s back up to running at or near full speed is going to have a much bigger impact than any addition that could potentially be acquired at the deadline.

I know Kucherov and Stone were able to do it but there’s a huge talent gap between those two and Kane. Ideally he goes on a conditioning stint around the trade deadline then plays the last month of the season.

lol Darnell is better than Bouchard right now

Bouchard never really played with urgency but it’s even worse this season. I’d still like to try him with Nurse and make him earn his next contract.

 

[McAsuno]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1849874493054828916

 

[ConnorNova0929]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1849886940159434906

 

[soothsayer]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1849886940159434906

$5.25 is a massive chunk of change, especially compared to previous years. But they just gotta get to the deadline . . .

 

[McHelpus]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1849886940159434906

I heard with this cap, you cannot do more than 1 move with it. You acquire a player worth 5.25 or less and that's it. Is that true?

 

[North]

I heard with this cap, you cannot do more than 1 move with it. You acquire a player worth 5.25 or less and that's it. Is that true?

Who told you that?

 

[Shanahanigans]

That Nurse contract has affected this team in a major way, that cap hit has prevented us from fixing our blue line and is the direct reason we've lost several young players due to cap issues. And there's 6 years to go. One of the most consequential decisions this team has made in a long, long time- much worse than the Lucic contract which we destroyed Chia for.

 

[Oilhawks]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1849874493054828916

I think there’s around a 0.1% chance they put in a claim. Or any team, for that matter

 

[ConnorNova0929]

I heard with this cap, you cannot do more than 1 move with it. You acquire a player worth 5.25 or less and that's it. Is that true?

Not true, they can fit in multiple players that have a combined cap hit of $5.25 million.

Plus, if Kane stays on LTIR beyond the deadline until the playoffs that would be another $5 million in available space.

But as @soothsayer said, they just got to get to the deadline with this space. Not sure they won't be forced to use the cap space prior to that.

 

[McHelpus]

Who told you that?

I must have misinterpreted it, it was that podcast explaining accuring space/LTIR. Also said you cannot combine LTIR and accuring cap together.

 

[belair]

I think there’s around a 0.1% chance they put in a claim. Or any team, for that matter

I'd claim then waive him. He'd be a good spot filler in case of injuries.

 

[GOilers88]

Can we still talk about Lavoie, McLeod (4 goals already and insane on the dot) Foegele (seems to be thriving) and Ceci(top pairing in SJ)?

Foegele "thriving" is the other end of the "Arvy and Emberson suck" spectrum.

Foegele is exactly what he's always been, and until last night had 1 point on the season through 8 games.

Prop up one player on 8 games played, and knock down others on 8 games played.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

That Alex Lefrrenierre deal looks good for NY

less than 8 million

 

[McDNicks17]

I must have misinterpreted it, it was that podcast explaining accuring space/LTIR. Also said you cannot combine LTIR and accuring cap together.

That's also wrong unless they mean you can't accrue cap space while using LTIR.

You can use accrued cap and LTIR together. Using accrued cap is no different than using cap right now.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

That's also wrong unless they mean you can't accrue cap space while using LTIR.

You can use accrued cap and LTIR together. Using accrued cap is no different than using cap right now.

This is correct