Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: "Wheat Kings and Pretty Things, Let's See What The Expansion Draft Brings

[CupofOil]

Why would a 6th for McCann work when it was a prospect (that they liked and drafted) and a 7th?
It would have been Lavoie, and a pick.

I edited my post, I got the Goodrow and McCann returns mixed up.

 

[North]

Why would a 6th for McCann work when it was a prospect (that they liked and drafted) and a 7th?
It would have been Lavoie, and a pick.

I personally want to keep Lavoie. I’m hoping he’s able to bump Yams down at some point.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I edited my post, I got the Goodrow and McCann returns mixed up.

Goodrow is unsigned and rumor has teams were looking at 6 years for him.

 

[Cloned]

It was my go to.

You should use this as your avatar for your makeover

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Why would a 6th for McCann work when it was a prospect (that they liked and drafted) and a 7th?
It would have been Lavoie, and a pick.

If we could get McCann for Lavoie I would've been ecstatic, a McCann level player is what I hope Lavoie can become. He's a young cost controlled ~30-40 point guy at minimum with strong defense and plays multiple forward positions even if you think last year's 60 point pace was a mirage (I think it is too). The only way you don't make that move is if you think Lavoie is a future 20-30 goal 60 point guy in which case I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Rumor is teams were looking at 6 years for Goodrow too. Teams don't get that term to UFAs is so damn dangerous.

Yeah don't touch Goodrow with a 8392038 foot pole in that case.

 

[dustrock]

Asking Holland to engage in some creative thinking about trades is the proverbial fish riding a bicycle.

Not going to happen. He probably doesn't even know who McCann is.

 

[oXo Cube]

Rumor is teams were looking at 6 years for Goodrow too. Teams don't get that term to UFAs is so damn dangerous.

Teams dont care because most GMs are fired by then.

A long term UFA contract is someone else's problem.

 

[Cloned]

I get the frustration. The last good trade the Oilers made was Chia with Maroon. Some teams make positive trades once a year, the Oilers are more like once a decade.
Giving up a decent prospect for McCann would have been so easy and checked off one need going into free agency for dirt cheap capwise and assetwise. Nobody should be defending Holland not being in on that.

Dickinson too.

But like I said earlier, it seems like we just ignore all the easy moves for good assets and instead try to outsmart everyone by going off the board. Sometimes the best moves are the simplest ones.

 

[bellagiobob]

 

[oXo Cube]

Asking Holland to engage in some creative thinking about trades is the proverbial fish riding a bicycle.

Not going to happen. He probably doesn't even know who McCann is.

Nobody is asking him to be creative. Most creative thing the Oilers need to do this summer is buyout Neal.

We're just asking him to fill basic and obvious holes. Something we seem to be the only team in the league that struggles with.

 

[Anarchism]

You guys seems to be missing the point totally on the judgement on the Keith deal.
It has little to do with How Keith performs the coming season (though him out performing his contract would be a plus).
It was truly a headshaking moment!
I'm surprised we don't have some conspiracy theorists saying Bettman got involved.

 

[TheNumber4]

I’ll reserve flipping my lip when the Hall saga ends. Can’t really judge if Holland is or isn’t doing enough in this expansion draft until we know what other bullets he fires.

 

[Anarchism]

Nobody is asking him to be creative. Most creative thing the Oilers need to do this summer is buyout Neal.

We're just asking him to fill basic and obvious holes. Something we seem to be the only team in the league that struggles with.

I want some creativity.!
I guess that's why im disappointed.

 

[Heavy Dee]

Asking Holland to engage in some creative thinking about trades is the proverbial fish riding a bicycle.

Not going to happen. He probably doesn't even know who McCann is.

He is still wondering why so many cards from his rolodex have gone missing over the years.

 

[McAsuno]

I’ll reserve flipping my lip when the Hall saga ends. Can’t really judge if Holland is or isn’t doing enough in this expansion draft until we know what other bullets he fires.

Same. I still don't like the Keith trade, but until the team's fully done for next season, I'll be quiet

 

[dustrock]

You guys seems to be missing the point totally on the judgement on the Keith deal.
It has little to do with How Keith performs the coming season (though him out performing his contract would be a plus).
It was truly a headshaking moment!
I'm surprised we don't have some conspiracy theorists saying Bettman got involved.

The only thing that doesn't make it a bad trade (note: Keith could be an all-Star next year and it would still be a poor trade at the time) is if there is some kind of handshake deal where Keith retires after next season and the Hawks are hit with the recapture.

 

[jeg]

I want some creativity.!
I guess that's why im disappointed.

but until we’re in the room how do we know what was discussed or almost done

I think the Lucic for Neal was very creative

 

[Anarchism]

I’ll reserve flipping my lip when the Hall saga ends. Can’t really judge if Holland is or isn’t doing enough in this expansion draft until we know what other bullets he fires.

Zito misses on Hyman....gets Hall??

 

[CycloneSweep]

I want some creativity.!
I guess that's why im disappointed.

It's not even free agency yet.
Most teams seemed to want to stand Pat with their teams for expansion.

Numerous teams are losing very good players or giving Seattle a song.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Nobody is asking him to be creative. Most creative thing the Oilers need to do this summer is buyout Neal.

We're just asking him to fill basic and obvious holes. Something we seem to be the only team in the league that struggles with.

This is it, really. And this is also the prime time to ditch at least one bad contract. If there's a trade involving Kassian, fine. But I don't see the need to protect him unless a deal is in place.

 

[CycloneSweep]

You should use this as your avatar for your makeover

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[McVirginOil]

Random thought: but I think Isles will make a push for Ovi and I give them 40% to actually land him.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Random thought: but I think Isles will make a push for Ovi and I give them 40% to actually land him.

Doubt it, Ovi has his Cup already and by all accounts loves Washington. Zero reason to leave, if anything I expect him to sign a discount.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Random thought: but I think Isles will make a push for Ovi and I give them 40% to actually land him.

I don't think so. If OVI doesn't go back to Washington I think he goes home to Russia