Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: "Wheat Kings and Pretty Things, Let's See What The Expansion Draft Brings

[oXo Cube]

What do people think Jones and a third are worth?

Seriously?

I get people are stuck on the retention but Chicago wasn’t retaining under any circumstance unless we gave them a player like Samorukov, McLeod, or Bear.

Jones and a third arent worth a whole bunch that was never in contention.

The question being asked is if Duncan Keith is the right guy to commit 5.5 million to, and I think thats a fair question even as someone who has more time for him than most.

 

[TheNumber4]

Rumoured Stralman cap dump to Arizona. Hope it happens, would like to see the cost if only to get another comparable to the Keith trade. I feel it’s in the neck of the woods of the Leddy trade.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

One guy is still good enough to be an NHL regular, the other has played 4 games in 2 seasons. I don't see the comparison. And you only so cause it makes it easier for you to be a whiny baby

Is he though? I would venture to say Keith probably doesn’t crack the lineup of 14/32 teams.


Hell, Seattle probably wasn’t gonna take him for free.

But by all means keep being Holland’s lackey.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

People understand the off season isn’t over yet right?

Some deals are probably going to occur after the expansion draft.

The end is not near yet.

I eagerly await the rebirth of this narrative when the ED passes and nothing happens. Then it’ll be the draft, then free agency...

 

[Beerfish]

Well the kraken should 100% for sure claim tarasenko. A total gift to them.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Is he though? I would venture to say Keith probably doesn’t crack the lineup of 14/32 teams.


Hell, Seattle probably wasn’t gonna take him for free.

But by all means keep being Holland’s lackey.

Lol being Holland's lacky.
And Ladd doesn't crack the roster of 32/32 teams. So comparing them at all is absolutely ridiculous. But that's pretty on brand for you

 

[North]

Jones and a third arent worth a whole bunch that was never in contention.

The question being asked is if Duncan Keith is the right guy to commit 5.5 million to, and I think thats a fair question even as someone who has more time for him than most.

I just don’t think the amount of angst over the deal is worth it.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

I had faith in you Ken.

 

[The Nuge]

Is he though? I would venture to say Keith probably doesn’t crack the lineup of 14/32 teams.


Hell, Seattle probably wasn’t gonna take him for free.

But by all means keep being Holland’s lackey.

There isn’t a single team Keith isn’t making the lineup on let alone 14. That’s a brutal take

 

[Chayos]

Ice time, schmice time.

Duncan Keith is a washed up ineffective player.

Andrew Ladd is a washed up ineffective player.

See the comparison?

only one of those statements is actually true. Keith can fill a spot albeit at a higher price than hoped, but Ladd us Useless now.

 

[CupofOil]

Ice time, schmice time.

Duncan Keith is a washed up ineffective player.

Andrew Ladd is a washed up ineffective player.

See the comparison?

You're making dumb comparisons again like when you compared Graves to Keith who played completely different roles on completely different teams. Maybe it's best if you stop making these comparisons?

I can't believe I'm defending this Keith trade because it was a dumb trade but some of your assessments of the player are really poor and misguided and it's making you look worse and worse with each post.

 

[McAsuno]

 

[CycloneSweep]

There isn’t a single team Keith isn’t making the lineup on let alone 14. That’s a brutal take

He wouldn't crack I think Tampa? But maybe that's it.

 

[Cloned]

People understand the off season isn’t over yet right?

Some deals are probably going to occur after the expansion draft.

The end is not near yet.

Whaaa every gm in the league sucks except the on a who made trades today. Fact

I so badly want my faith restored. I’d inject a good move into my veins if I could.

 

[The Nuge]

He wouldn't crack I think Tampa? But maybe that's it.

Even then, he’s better than Savard at the very least. He’s better than their whole right side imo

 

[OfCorsiDid]

There isn’t a single team Keith isn’t making the lineup on let alone 14. That’s a brutal take

We’ll see.


EDIT: Also I find it hilarious that I get flamed and mocked in consecutive posts yet I’m the one that gets thread banned because I’m criticizing Holland. Apparently we’re only allowed to praise him. What a joke. Right sorry, need to do the HFOil prayer:

Long live Holland, praise Holland!

 

[North]

Lol being Holland's lacky.
And Ladd doesn't crack the roster of 32/32 teams. So comparing them at all is absolutely ridiculous. But that's pretty on brand for you

You know someone is on the ledge when they start personally attacking you for disagreeing with them.

 

[CycloneSweep]

You know someone is on the ledge when they start personally attacking you for disagreeing with them.

It was my go to.

 

[Trafalgar Sadge Law]

Andrew Ladd's trade today serves as a warning for anyone whose okay with overpaying for Hyman, hopefully Holland takes said warning seriously.

 

[belair]

Too many fans drink the koolaid here, so no, people are not seeing how crazy this is.

All Holland had to do was literally wait until today in order to get a much better deal for Keith.

What changed today for Chicago? They protected Jones. Keith wasn't preventing them from protecting a defenseman. They still left deHaan and Zadorov exposed.

Taking Keith's cap-hit is what it is. I'll never be happy about it. But Bowman was never pressed to make this trade. Keith's existence on Chicago's payroll never complicated anything for him.

 

[McSuper]

Contract is almost identical to Neal--steep price to move that contract

Context matters . You might want to take a look at real money .

 

[Seachd]

Versteeg was on the radio in Calgary this past week I believe (they replayed it this morning). He was asked about what Keith could bring to the Oilers, and of course it was glowing praise. We might not like the cap hit, but I think there is a real chance he can do a lot of good for the team.

The Leddy deal looks miles worse in my mind.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Andrew Ladd's trade today serves as a warning for anyone whose okay with overpaying for Hyman, hopefully Holland takes said warning seriously.

Rumor is teams were looking at 6 years for Goodrow too. Teams don't get that term to UFAs is so damn dangerous.

 

[CupofOil]

I so badly want my faith restored. I’d inject a good move into my veins if I could.

I get the frustration. The last good trade the Oilers made was Chia with Maroon. Some teams make positive trades once a year, the Oilers are more like once a decade.
Giving up a decent prospect for McCann would have been so easy and checked off one need going into free agency for dirt cheap capwise and assetwise. Nobody should be defending Holland not being in on that.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I get the frustration. The last good trade the Oilers made was Chia with Maroon. Some teams make positive trades once a year, the Oilers are more like once a decade.
Giving up a 6th for McCann would have been so easy and checked off one need going into free agency for dirt cheap capwise and assetwise. Nobody should be defending Holland not being in on that.

Why would a 6th for McCann work when it was a prospect (that they liked and drafted) and a 7th?
It would have been Lavoie, and a pick.