They can't play low event hockey, so that basically only leaves the other option.
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They can't play low event hockey, so that basically only leaves the other option.
WaitingForUser
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Oh absolutely I agree but what players are we willing to sell off?
Nuge is having the best season of his career
Hyman see above
Leon not a chance
McDavid see above.
Barrie maybe
Bouchard probably a mistake
Nurse no one is taking that contract and we are better with him than without him.
That leaves
Yams good luck
PJ see above
Campbell not very likely
Foegle possibly
Drivesaitl
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Several other factors exist though and You'd know more about how its tabulated but for instance in same game if Hyman is whacking puck into pads 3 times in succession is that 3 chances or one?
Does a puck have to hit the net to be a HDSC.
Some sites kind of give some detail but often hard to find.
My own take is the parameters have to be very closely defined but then even with that the parameters can exclude. Hockey is incredbily complex, not baseball, and much harder to quantify. I can't really have that convo today and we've done it before anyway.
ChaoticOrange
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Some people just don't want to admit Kenny H signed a bad contract and a Campbell buyout is looking like a very real possibility.
All of your "that leaves" group is tradable depending on picks/situational stuff. If they waived Puljujarvi he'd likely get claimed by someone like Arizona for free.
Holland just doesn't want to do it because he thinks he's playing 4D Chess. I think his planned sales pitch at the deadline will be "yeah but we don't need to give you another 1st! Jesse Puljujarvi is as good as a 1st rounder! He was taken 4th overall!".
ChaoticOrange
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Barrie, Yamo, JP, Foegele. I'd trade Ceci in the offseason, I think Vinny D can replace most of what he brings but I'd want him a bit more seasoned before moving two RD.
Campbell's probably going to have to be bought out unless he REALLY shines down the stretch/in the playoffs.
FunkyChicken
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Too many smurfs (Blues pun intended) on their back end. Krug, Leddy, and Faulk are top 4.
Only Parayko has size in their top 4, but he's more of a Petry type D than a physical one.
Need to replace one of those three with a gritty defensive D. Sounds familiar somehow.
WaitingForUser
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I just find it hard to believe that anyone takes Yams or PJ. Especially PJ he’s been “on the block” for over a year with no takers. I think Ceci will be fine if we can ever move him back to a number 3/4 position he belongs in. I would rather wait it out with PJ than spend a 2nd or First just to trade him for the 3 million in cap space it would create to be honest. He will go back overseas after this year and the saga will finally be over. Now if we adding him to a bigger deal that’s a different story but it seems he has negative value at the moment.
That's because they don't get attached to all of their players and prospects. They know when to move on. They still have good players there. Watch them re-tool in a jiffy. Get a good dman and a good forward. That is what you call top notch GM'ing
I'm usually one to defend the goalies but the Oilers were plenty good enough to win the Colorado and last Detroit game and were a victim of having the 2nd best goalie on the ice. The 3rd and 4th goals against Colorado were particularly egregious.
KeithIsActuallyBad
You thrust your pelvis, huh!
The keyword there is "trying" to play low event hockey. They clearly dont know how to and win games.
Yup, he cost us that game. Like I know we're not all world defensively, but c'mon dude make a f***ing save, we gave you plenty of run support.
And on the 3rd goal, and I know that Mackinnon has a great shot, you absolutely have to stop that shot from that far out with zero traffic near you. The Oilers would have won the Detroit and Colorado games with average goaltending. Two of the better games they played in this rough stretch.
Yall are crazy. Campbell basically had to make the splits just to make the initial save. His defenceman should have been able to clear the puck. Bouchard just stands there while his guy went around the net and tapped it in.
As much as Broberg-Bouchard have some decent advanced metrics, they're gonna get murdered as a pairing in a real playoff series. It's one of those things where fancy stats don't tell you everything. That 4th goal they played really poorly.
Cold Water on everything Tuesday on Oilers Now. "Because of Desharnais, the defense is fine". Paraphrasing what Stauffer is saying.
I don't think Woodcroft/Manson even know how to coach that either. Did Bakersfield ever even play that style under Woody?
Faelko
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Not surprised, no cap space and a GM incapable of creating any.
Forgot About Drai
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I think the reporting that we obviously are looking for a "big swing" is prob hurting them in negotiations. Smart to throw some cold water out there. I would of been angry hearing this a week ago - but it makes sense now
FlameChampion
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I think the team just likes some of their players too much.
Beyond JP, I dont think they really want to move anyone out. And theres even been rumours about re-signing so who knows lol.
In order for the team to make any realistic moves, JP/Foegele/Yamamoto would have to move forward wise. Defense wise Barrie/Kulak/Ceci could move.
For all the rumours in regards to this team, never heard Foegele or Yamamoto mentioned. Barrie maybe been mentioned but not even sure if he has.
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alphahelix
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Everyone is gonna get murdered because we dont have a true veteran shutdown pair or a fully loaded #1/#2/#3/#4 D corps... every pairing has issues. Need at least one pairing you can count on to stem the tide break the cycle and flummox elite atrackers.
If we had an elite #1G that could make up for it but we dont.
If we had elite 2 way forwards focused on the defensive game this could be mitigated but we dont.
Its a tough nut to crack.. our path to the cup right now relies on facing incomplete opponents and getting lucky against elite teams that take critical injuries along the way
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