Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: The "Well, we're waiting!!!" Edition with a sprinkle of "Don't believe his lies."

[Paralyzer]

People acting like Holland sent down Holloway knowing and planning for him to get injured....I know the sky is falling...but let's be realistic here...players get hurt 8n hockey...

Stop being so logical. Can't you see we love losing our shit?

 

[foshizzle]

Stop being so logical. Can't you see we love losing our shit?

I legit laughed

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Except he wasn’t. He was injured in the AHL and was only sent down because of complete mismanagement of the roster by Ken Holland. The actual injury isn’t Ken Holland’s fault- but the asset mismanagement and risking a contributing NHL player is.

Lol pure bad luck. He should have been sent down months ago.

Clearly I’m not on the Holland train atm but blaming that on him is silly.

 

[Zerotonine]

Holloway loses 122k

I just posted this, he litterally loses 4k a day being in the ahl compared to nhl. That hurts.

And that's a rookie salary, think of what guys with bigger contracts would lose. Mid boggling

 

[foshizzle]

Lol pure bad luck. He should have been sent down months ago.

Clearly I’m not on the Holland train atm but blaming that on him is silly.

Having to send him down because he can’t have a full roster is completely on Ken Holland, sorry. The he injury itself is bad luck- agreed- but risking him when he was a productive NHL’er is on Holland

The last time we traded a first actually practically 2 1st rounders we got Griffin Reinhardt. How did that work out for us again?

Wait, so because one stupid GM made a horrendous trade no other GM should even contemplate moving a first?

 

[Zerotonine]

Think we made the bed with Campbell.

What are the other options to move him for?
Gibson - downward trend, but under similar crappy D. Extra $1.4M per year. Probably part of 10 team NTC.
Mrazek - crap for crap with less cap hit and term. Probably part of 10 team NTC.
Markstrom - $1M more per but one year less term. Could become unbroken knowing he didn't face McDavid anymore.
SJ as part of Karlsson - They're trying to move cap and term not add. Probably part of 10 team NTC.
Binnington - $1M more per. Would probably lose his mind behind the Oilers D.
Demko - Likely needs some recovery time. Oilers would likely have to add alot in terms of picks to make it worthwhile for Van.

Absolutely no way we can move Campbell at 5 mill the way he has played. No chance.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

Sanheim is like Gavrikov. Neither of these guys put us over the top or make a notable improvement over Kulak.

They're minor upgrades when we clearly need a massive upgrade or two.

You are way out to lunch Sanheim is a good chunk above Gavrikov and substantially better than Kulak, it's hard to read much into it, Torts scratches people for all sorts of dumb and arbitrary reasons.

I'm just hoping it creates a rift between the player and coach since Sanheim had his family in the crowd to come watch him play.

 

[brentashton]

How to build team loyalty 101 by Ken Holland.

Yes. Ken Holland sent him down to the AHL and asked the opposition to injure Dylan so that he would also take a financial hit too. SMH.

I read somewhere that climate change and those balloons floating over North America are also GMKHs fault too.

 

[belair]

If we're gonna be technical it's Bouchard's man.

And McDavid can't just teleport to the front of the net, watch the play again, he is forced to go around the Avs player behind the net, you can't just go through a player. That gave the player that was Bouchard's man a split second to jump out in front of the net uncovered and Campbell then gives him the opening to put the puck, McDavid did try to recover but you can't just make up 3 strides from out of your ass in a millisecond, not even Connor McDavid can do that.

Broberg probably needed to be aware that Bouchard was doing nothing and he needs to slide over, he was the closest Oiler player in that situation to the guy who scored to goal. Both of the D are stuck covering the left side of the net.

Watching it even again, McDavid could've basically ended Byram there if he went for the hit instead of skating around him.

Watched it again. McDavid overpursues Compher into a dead area instead of reacting to the puck that gets centered. Bouchard technically crosschecks 'his man' and has no clear sight of the puck.

As a team there's no urgency to protect the front of the net, but McDavid is the center. It's his job to hover defensively, not pursue skaters to low danger areas. That goal gets scored because we're not protecting the front of the net up by two goals in the third period.

 

[McBooya42]

How to build team loyalty 101 by Ken Holland.

You think Holland masterminded this? What a stupid post.

 

[Soundwave]

Watched it again. McDavid overpursues Compher into a dead area instead of reacting to the puck that gets centered. Bouchard technically crosschecks 'his man' and has no clear sight of the puck.

As a team there's no urgency to protect the front of the net, but McDavid is the center. It's his job to hover defensively, not pursue skaters to low danger areas. That goal gets scored because we're not protecting the front of the net up by two goals in the third period.

He could have ended Bryam's career if he cuts to the front of the net there though, Byram was in an akward position getting pushed behind the net by Nuge, McDavid could've blown him up to the next solar system there, being a nice person and not wanting to take a penalty he chose not to.

Campbell has to play that better though, I mean some times a guy is going to spring loose in front of a net to jam at a puck. It happens. You can't just make it an auto-goal against. If his pad was flush and down or he moved to cover the puck with his body it's not a goal.

 

[Sanchez]

f*** sakes all because he was sent down because we needed to keep JP

 

[FunkyChicken]

Sandheim a healthy scratch

Thought he looked better than Provorov in our last game against Philly.

 

[belair]

People acting like Holland sent down Holloway knowing and planning for him to get injured....I know the sky is falling...but let's be realistic here...players get hurt 8n hockey...

The guy's going to have plenty of opportunity to get the bag.

 

[FunkyChicken]

You think Holland masterminded this? What a stupid post.

Send a player down who has outplayed several on team because you can't manage a cap. You don't think that player is bitter?
Of course he can't and won't voodoo an injury, use your brain to what's being implied.

 

[oil Leaks]

Philadelphia Flyers Travis Sanheim scratched vs. Calgary Flames | TSN

Philadelphia Flyers defenceman Travis Sanheim will be a healthy scratch for Monday's game against the Calgary Flames.

www.tsn.ca

 

[North]

Send a player down who has outplayed several on team because you can't manage a cap. You don't think that player is bitter?
Of course he can't and won't voodoo an injury, use your brain to what's being implied.

How many did he outplay?

Fact is Holloway should have been demoted earlier.

 

[Harry Curry]

So you are saying b/c one bad thing happened, never ever do it again? What a way to think through life eh?

No doubt. Especially considering the time the Oilers traded a first rounder before the Griffin Reinhart debacle they got Roloson. That trade worked out for a while...

 

[FunkyChicken]

How many did he outplay?

Fact is Holloway should have been demoted earlier.

You are right.
Devon Shore is better.

 

[North]

You are right.
Devon Shore is better.

Outplaying Devin Shore isn’t exactly anything to write home about.

Shore sits a lot. You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

 

[Oilhawks]

You are right.
Devon Shore is better.

What’s the point of playing Holloway 4th line minutes? Better off in the A

 

[Harry Curry]

And that's a rookie salary, think of what guys with bigger contracts would lose. Mid boggling

It's generally only guys on rookie deals who have two-way salary deals.

On the current roster Bouchard, Broberg and Skinner are the only Oilers with two-way deals. All three are still on their rooke contracts.

 

[FunkyChicken]

Outplaying Devin Shore isn’t exactly anything to write home about.

Shore sits a lot. You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

If Holloway got sent down because of his play, I'll concede.
But I don't think he did, I'm pretty sure he got sent down along with Desjardins because of cap reasons. I could be wrong.

 

[CycloneSweep]

I just posted this, he litterally loses 4k a day being in the ahl compared to nhl. That hurts.

And that's a rookie salary, think of what guys with bigger contracts would lose. Mid boggling

I think bigger contracts that aren’t a two way get the same no matter what.

 

[GhostfaceWu]

Outplaying Devin Shore isn’t exactly anything to write home about.

Shore sits a lot. You’re not making the point you think you’re making.

6 pts less than Ryan/Foegele 4 and 3 points behind Yammamoto/Puljujarvi who basically spent significantly more time in the top 6 with Draisaitl/Mcdavid doesn't exactly move the needle for your side.