Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread: The "Well, we're waiting!!!" Edition with a sprinkle of "Don't believe his lies."

[Drivesaitl]

Having in your mind that no lead is safe enough is not something a group can win with. No excuse for not closing out games with such leads. Oilers should be ashamed of the result even when there were plenty of positives today

Sure. But SC champs can be so explosive. Case in point. Nuge puts a puck up high to clear zone. Should be good enough. But it ends up being gloved and Manson immediately hits and next thing you know its in our net. Theres not a ton you can do on those, I thought it was a gloved puck, a play forward with glove. Most of the time it gets whistled down and Nuge was motioning for the same.

Lets keep in mind one thing. The Rangers and AV's are also exhibiting that these games matter, and we're at least an interesting opponent and as a purist hockey lover, putting teams aside, this was a great weekend of entertainment. I'm happy anyway that the Oilers team are so often around the most entertaining games that the NHL has anywhere. Sometimes you just have to appreciate the skill on display, and just love hockey. I had no trouble just loving hockey this weekend even though it can be a cruel result sport.

 

[McAsuno]

It went from “Can't go for it every year.” To "It takes two teams to play ball."
Then ”trades are hard to make.” After “the cap is a real thing.”
After that “Can’t squeeze other gms.”
Finally to "Money in, money out."

Excuses from Ken Holland galore!

Then excuses from his defenders:
“He tried.” “Wait to see what he does when he has cap room."
"Still cleaning up the mess he was left with."
"Wait until the TDL."

 

[Drivesaitl]

Yeah, hate to complain about it but it could be said the reffing was difference between regulation wins and OT losses both games.

Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger heh. Yeah.

i can take this happening in regular season. But in playoffs the goal on an offside type things are harder to take. Imagine being a Buffalo Sabres fan when Dallas won the cup on a kicked in puck. It could always be worse ..Always look on the bright side of life. heh

Cue Monty Python.

 

[Darkwinter]

Kane scored 2 goals last game one just now against TML..
The guy with bummed hip would be our best forward at ES

Great .. what he has done the rest of the year and what happens when teams start playing heavy hockey come playoff time?

 

[Soundwave]

Sure. But SC champs can be so explosive. Case in point. Nuge puts a puck up high to clear zone. Should be good enough. But it ends up being gloved and Manson immediately hits and next thing you know its in our net. Theres not a ton you can do on those, I thought it was a gloved puck, a play forward with glove. Most of the time it gets whistled down and Nuge was motioning for the same.

Lets keep in mind one thing. The Rangers and AV's are also exhibiting that these games matter, and we're at least an interesting opponent and as a purist hockey lover, putting teams aside, this was a great weekend of entertainment. I'm happy anyway that the Oilers team are so often around the most entertaining games that the NHL has anywhere. Sometimes you just have to appreciate the skill on display, and just love hockey. I had no trouble just loving hockey this weekend even though it can be a cruel result sport.

I'm sorry but that weekend was bullshit. The Oilers should be bag skated if the coach had any balls but he doesn't.

That's unacceptable nonsense.

Finish a goddamn game. Playing with the maturity of a team of mentally fragile freaking rookies. This team needs to grow the f*** up and the coach needs to do his damn job in leading that. You guys were in the CONFERENCE FINAL last year last time I checked, you are up 3-0, 4-2, 5-3 against a team that beat you, GET IT DONE. Grow up already, you guys are not a bunch of 18/19 year olds that should just be happy to be out there.

 

[FunkyChicken]

I'll agree with that.

That's why I had Ceci and Bouchard as upgrade targets in my post. I'm honestly happy with either as my 2nd pairing RHD, but there need to be a clear upgrade above them on the right side.

Nurse-Parayko (dream fit as a defensive defenceman)
Kulak-Bouchard
Broberg-Vinny

Nurse-Karlsson
Kulak-Ceci
Broberg-Vinny

Just get a true 1st pairing defenceman, both an OFD or a DFD would do the trick.

Need to magically change Barrie into a top pairing right D. Preference would also be a defensive D to move Ceci to the second pairing. Warming up to Peeke but don't think he's a true top pairing.

Maybe Kulak, Barrie, 1st for Gavrikov and Peeke?

Nurse-Peeke
Gavrikov-Ceci
Broberg-Bouchard
Vinny

 

[Drivesaitl]

Great .. what he has done the rest of the year and what happens when teams start playing heavy hockey come playoff time?

Kane I think has survived heavy playoff hockey through 3 SC's. I think he can handle it. His natural Center here would be DRai, who is the guy that eats most of the punishment who could be feeding elite goal scorers instead of muppets like Yamanothingburger. Yeah, I can get behind change.

I'm sorry but that weekend was bullshit. The Oilers should be bag skated if the coach had any balls but he doesn't.

That's unacceptable nonsense.

Finish a goddamn game. Playing with the maturity of a team of mentally fragile freaking rookies. This team needs to grow the f*** up and the coach needs to do his damn job in leading that.

Well OK then...

 

[La Bamba]

Maybe Kulak, Barrie, 1st for Gavrikov and Peeke?

Nurse-Peeke
Gavrikov-Ceci
Broberg-Bouchard
Vinny

this literally makes the D worse and you give up a 1st on top of it

 

[WaitingForUser]

Ehh little different when a player asks out

True it was just the first one that came to mind.

 

[Stoneman89]

Its not unusual for players to move around. Look at Cody Ceci as an example.

AA only hit the plus 20 goal mark once in his time with Detroit, not 3 times as you mentioned, and has never come close since, averaging 10-12 goals per season.. Which I would say makes his one big year a definite outlier. I'm not convinced he's any part of an answer for a contending team.

 

[Jumptheshark]

I do like the fact a few still reject the buck in buck out theory some of keep talking about.

We can not ice a full 20 man roster right let alone add a big fish to our roster

 

[Soundwave]

I do like the fact a few still reject the buck in buck out theory some of keep talking about.

We can not ice a full 20 man roster right let alone add a big fish to our roster

Holland can't. Apparently Dubas is some magical genius as the Leafs pay Matthews and Marner even more than the Oilers pay McDavid and Draisaitl AND they pay Tavares 10.5 million on top of those two and they STILL don't make excuses about not being able to bring players in unlike "Let Me Ramble Off 30 Excuses" the GM does.

 

[Oilhawks]

I do like the fact a few still reject the buck in buck out theory some of keep talking about.

We can not ice a full 20 man roster right let alone add a big fish to our roster

Sheesh even as someone that doesn’t hate everything Holland has done, I have to ask, are you related to Holland? Even Du(m)ba(ss) can make trades on his capped out team that has even less assets. It can be dealt with, just like not running a short roster. Needs to be willing to spend to make it happen

 

[Soundwave]

Well no you can't run a full roster if you're to operate like a 90-year-old grandma driving in a school zone.

The Leafs had similar underachievers like Ritchie as Yamamoto and Puljujarvi. The difference? Leafs got rid of that shit so they go out and make other moves.

Holland meanwhile still hasn't decided what he wants for lunch yesterday.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Sheesh even as someone that doesn’t hate everything Holland has done, I have to ask, are you related to Holland? Even Du(m)ba(ss) can make trades on his capped out team that has even less assets. It can be dealt with, just like not running a short roster. Needs to be willing to spend to make it happen

Leafs have more cap space. We have zero cap space. We are running with a short roster for a reason.

 

[McAsuno]

Well no you can't run a full roster if you're to operate like a 90-year-old grandma driving in a school zone.

The Leafs had similar underachievers like Ritchie as Yamamoto and Puljujarvi. The difference? Leafs got rid of that shit so they go out and make other moves.

Holland meanwhile still hasn't decided what he wants for lunch yesterday.

He's probably still at Joeys right now. Useless GM.

 

[GMofOilers]

We need 2 defense at this point

 

[Jumptheshark]

Holland can't. Apparently Dubas is some magical genius as the Leafs pay Matthews and Marner even more than the Oilers pay McDavid and Draisaitl AND they pay Tavares 10.5 million on top of those two and they STILL don't make excuses about not being able to bring players in unlike "Let Me Ramble Off 30 Excuses" the GM does.

Explain how we can add without sending out the same amount we take on?

We have only 562 000 in cap space. The math here is not hard.

We need to figure out how to shed money.

 

[Soundwave]

He's probably still at Joeys right now. Useless GM.

I mean right now? It's almost 6 PM, old fart is probably in bed knocked out.

 

[Ibanez]

I do like the fact a few still reject the buck in buck out theory some of keep talking about.

We can not ice a full 20 man roster right let alone add a big fish to our roster

He’s the one that got himself into this situation. And he’s paid more than any other gm.

You have dubas over there on the other side making things happen with almost the same cap strapped situation.

I don’t understand why Holland gets so much defense on here.

This is literally his bed. He made it. We couldn’t handle two sicknesses today and ice a full roster.

I don’t hate all his moves. But this is failing. Utter utter failing

 

[McAsuno]

I mean right now? It's almost 6 PM, old fart is probably in bed knocked out.

Knowing him, he counted his draft picks and prospects like 'counting sheep' to help him sleep.
Not like he's actually doing shit anyways

 

[Soundwave]

Explain how we can add without sending out the same amount we take on?

We have only 562 000 in cap space. The math here is not hard.

We need to figure out how to shed money.

Here's one way. WAIVE PULJUJARVI. Stop hanging on to every piece junk salary you have. The Leafs wouldn't be able to make the deal for O'Reilly if they still had Nick Ritchie's 2.5+ million cap hit either, the difference is their GM isn't 102 years old and can actually make proactive deals so they moved him out months ago to give them the cap flexibility to make that deal months later.

 

[McAsuno]

Explain how we can add without sending out the same amount we take on?

We have only 562 000 in cap space. The math here is not hard.

We need to figure out how to shed money.

Idk man, Dubas got ROR salary retained by involving a 3rd team. All the 3rd team got in return was a low draft pick. If Dubas can make it happen, what's Ken Holland's excuse?
Excuses after excuses for the dumbest GM that put this team in cap hell in the first place but has no balls, no proactiveness, and no assertiveness to do anything worth shit.

 

[Soundwave]

Knowing him, he counted his draft picks and prospects like 'counting sheep' to help him sleep.
Not like he's actually doing shit anyways

Dreaming about 1996.

 

[McAsuno]

Dreaming about 1996.

Remember when I traded back in the day for Chris Chelios?
Pepperidge farm remembers.