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[McAsuno]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1856768793348854086

Crazy how awful our goaltending is. Take Shittin Schwartz with him.

 

[Sethual]

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Crazy how awful our goaltending is. Take Shittin Schwartz with him.

The organization is full of people who want the Oilers to fail, happened since Chia days.

 

[Zguy370]

The chances being fewer?

The Oilers allow the 3rd least amount of shots and high danger zone chances in the league. The defense isn't perfect but they're doing a pretty good job.

The problem is horrid goaltending. Period.

You would think, like after over 2 seasons now, but it's like rocket science to some and the org to figure out

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I am posting this again so it is not skipped about Blackwood. Adding in PK

Blackwood is on a bad team (Min 9 games played) 28 goalies on this list

SJ - Sharks allowed 174 hdc, only Pitts is worse. Sharks are also 5th in hd save %, EDM 22nd

EDM is top 10 with 116 HDCA. #1 is Vancouver at 100 allowed

Goals saved above expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 27th

Goals Saved Above expected per 60 - Blackwood 11th / Skinner 28th

Save % Above Expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 27th

GAA Better Than Expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 28th

YUP, Blackwood is no good lol.

4 on 5

Goals saved above expected - Blackwood 13th / Skinner last at 29th

Goals Saved Above expected per 60 - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 29th

Save % Above Expected - Blackwood 11th / Skinner 29th

GAA Better Than Expected - Blackwood 13th / Skinner 29th

Anybody who even remotely thinks Skinner is good here is on acid

 

[Oilslick941611]

Not surprised, i feel like he will be on LTIR when it's the trade deadline.

Given his history it’s not surprising. Was hoping he would have more of an impact and he did look good in some games but that hasn’t translated to anything

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

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Crazy how awful our goaltending is. Take Shittin Schwartz with him.

If there is a goaltending category you can bet Skinner is at the bottom of it.

 

[OilersaretheMcBest]

Who are some realistic Skinner replacements via trade close to the deadline

 

[CanadasTeam99]

If there is a goaltending category you can bet Skinner is at the bottom of it.

He is. Look above at my post on some ES and PK Numbers

Makes you pissed lol

Who are some realistic Skinner replacements via trade close to the deadline

Right now? Give me a guy with 2 arms, 2 legs, and a heartbeat. Can;t be hard to get somebody better than dead last lol

 

[brentashton]

I wonder if SJ would bite on something like this?

To SJ: Jeff Skinner, Derek Ryan, Calvin Pickard and our 2026 2nd Round Pick $4.9 million out
To Edm: Mackenzie Blackwood and Klim Kostin $4.35 million in

Recalling Noah Philp would mean that we'd be adding $225K in cap after the trade and his recall.

RNH-McDavid-Hyman
Podkolzin-Draisaitl-Arvidsson
Janmark-Henrique-Brown
Kostin-Philp-Perry

Ekholm-Bouchard
Nurse-Stetcher
Kulak-Emberson

Blackwood
Skinner

Ive said it before, think Blackwood could be a bit of a sleeper in our system. I’d run him 1 and put skinner as 2 until proven otherwise.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Who are some realistic Skinner replacements via trade close to the deadline

I don't know, but I think it's not in the team's best interest to wait that long, because this might become a problem where the team can't move up the standings.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Voted based on need and probability to acquire under our cap situation so went with 2RD as out most critical but also fillable need.

Kulak Emberson look like a solid 3rd pairing, get a solid 2RD and a lot of the goaltending gets better as the chances should be fewer. Kane coming back solves the LW issue and I believe we will pickup a physical bottom 6 winger and Philp should be a regular come the TDL.

There are no starters available, Nashville not trading Saros after just signing him to 8 years and we can’t fit him in under the cap anyway.

I don’t see a world where we don’t ride and die with Skinner as the go to guy but even in playoffs he will need to be spelled off for a few games at a time as his game degrades with overplaying.

If he can solve his consistency issues and we improve the D and defensive play we should be ok.

How many fewer chances can the oilers give up? There defensive play has been fine.

The goaltending has not

I am posting this again so it is not skipped about Blackwood. Adding in PK

Blackwood is on a bad team (Min 9 games played) 28 goalies on this list

SJ - Sharks allowed 174 hdc, only Pitts is worse. Sharks are also 5th in hd save %, EDM 22nd

EDM is top 10 with 116 HDCA. #1 is Vancouver at 100 allowed

Goals saved above expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 27th

Goals Saved Above expected per 60 - Blackwood 11th / Skinner 28th

Save % Above Expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 27th

GAA Better Than Expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 28th

YUP, Blackwood is no good lol.

4 on 5

Goals saved above expected - Blackwood 13th / Skinner last at 29th

Goals Saved Above expected per 60 - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 29th

Save % Above Expected - Blackwood 11th / Skinner 29th

GAA Better Than Expected - Blackwood 13th / Skinner 29th

Anybody who even remotely thinks Skinner is good here is on acid

Blackwood being better than skinner and being a good goalie are two different discussions

 

[brentashton]

How many fewer chances can the oilers give up? There defensive play has been fine.

The goaltending has not


Blackwood being better than skinner and being a good goalie are two different discussions

So the question posed was who would be a goalie you would target and how would you go get him… Blackwood seems plausible and probably is better than Skinner. You disagree.

So if not him, who?

 

[Oilers88]

Blackwood is on a bad team (Min 9 games played) 28 goalies on this list

SJ - Sharks allowed 174 hdc, only Pitts is worse. Sharks are also 5th in hd save %, EDM 22nd

EDM is top 10 with 116 HDCA. #1 is Vancouver at 100 allowed

Goals saved above expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 27th

Goals Saved Above expected per 60 - Blackwood 11th / Skinner 28th

Save % Above Expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 27th

GAA Better Than Expected - Blackwood 12th / Skinner 28th

YUP, Blackwood is no good lol.

That's this season. He's played 9 games. The last 4 before this:

2023-2024
Blackwood: -9.27 GSAA, 89th/98 goalies
Skinner: 0.03 GSAA, 46th/98 goalies

2022-2023
Blackwood: -5.00 GSAA, 83rd/107 goalies
Skinner: 14.28, 9th/107 goalies

2021-2022

Blackwood: -11.16, 112th/119 goalies
Skinner: 0.08, 62nd/119 goalies (only 13 games)

2020-2021

Blackwood: -3.25, 74th/98 goalies.

He has been in the league for 6 years now, and his established level of play is a below replacement level player. He routinely is well below the mean in terms of GSAA, and has had ugly numbers even on some good New Jersey teams. Outside of a few brief flashes, it looks like Blackwood has no business being on an NHL roster.

Skinner is having a brutal season this year, but bigger picture, he had one outstanding season, and the other two have been pretty average. He's certainly not a world beater, but I'm absolutely not betting on Mackenzie Blackwood to be better than him.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Another name for a guy who's really been knocking on the door for a while, Jet Greaves in Columbus.

At this point, bring him in and see if he has something.

 

[Canovin]

That's this season. He's played 9 games. The last 4 before this:

2023-2024
Blackwood: -9.27 GSAA, 89th/98 goalies
Skinner: 0.03 GSAA, 46th/98 goalies

2022-2023
Blackwood: -5.00 GSAA, 83rd/107 goalies
Skinner: 14.28, 9th/107 goalies

2021-2022

Blackwood: -11.16, 112th/119 goalies
Skinner: 0.08, 62nd/119 goalies (only 13 games)

2020-2021

Blackwood: -3.25, 74th/98 goalies.

He has been in the league for 6 years now, and his established level of play is a below replacement level player. He routinely is well below the mean in terms of GSAA, and has had ugly numbers even on some good New Jersey teams. Outside of a few brief flashes, it looks like Blackwood has no business being on an NHL roster.

Skinner is having a brutal season this year, but bigger picture, he had one outstanding season, and the other two have been pretty average. He's certainly not a world beater, but I'm absolutely not betting on Mackenzie Blackwood to be better than him.

Goalie on lottery teams vs goalie sheltered by one of the best teams

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Goalie on lottery teams vs goalie sheltered by one of the best teams

yes, let's spend assets and cap space on a guy who may or may not be as good as Skinner

great plan

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Goalie on lottery teams vs goalie sheltered by one of the best teams

I'm not happy with the tandem either, but with his level play and lack of health, Blackwood might not be the best choice.

I think a cheaper more unknown type might work better for the Oilers.

 

[Canovin]

yes, let's spend assets and cap space on a guy who may or may not be as good as Skinner

great plan

Not hard to find a goalie that's better than Skinner. It's going to cost some assets to get the player, of course. Were you expecting to get them for free?

Once we get a legit starter, he's better than adding another top 4 D.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Not hard to find a goalie that's better than Skinner. It's going to cost some assets to get the player, of course. Were you expecting to get them for free?

Blackwood is a "maybe"...it's pointless to spend assets and cap space on unknowns

 

[Oilhawks]

Who are some realistic Skinner replacements via trade close to the deadline

 

[Canovin]

I'm not happy with the tandem either, but with his level play and lack of health, Blackwood might not be the best choice.

I think a cheaper more unknown type might work better for the Oilers.

A cheaper and a slightly better goalie than Stuart is also good as we can spend the extra cap saving we get from moving Stuart for a top 4 Dman

 

[Took a pill in Sbisa]

Binnington has 2 more years after this one at $6m with zero retained salary slots used

 

[OilersaretheMcBest]

I don't know, but I think it's not in the team's best interest to wait that long, because this might become a problem where the team can't move up the standings.

Agree but i'm not sure who would be available right now. Allen, Saros?, Talbs, Blackwood, Gibson?

 

[Canovin]

$69.99 at costco

 

[Oilhawks]

$69.99 at costco

Yup, don’t even need to wait til the TDL