Then you clearly missed the last 2 rounds of the playoffs
Do you only look at points ?
Rumor: Rumors & Proposals Thread | Does Bowman Make His Mark on the Team Before Training Camp?
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A decent 10 games where half of them he played under 16 minutes makes him a bonafide top 4 D?
No but it's a good place to start.
Also kind of funny given that I literally dived into the advanced stats yesterday, so I don't get the aggression.
Here you go:
HDCF% Regular Season - 7th worst among oilers dmen
HDCF% Playoffs - worst among oilers dmen
CF% Regular Season - worst among oilers dmen
CF% Playoffs - worst among oilers dmen
SF% Regular Season - worst among oilers dmen
SF% Playoffs - worst among oilers dmen
xGF% Regular Season - 6th worst among oilers dmen
xGF% Playoffs - worst among oilers dmen
SCF% Regulgar Season - 7th worst among oilers dmen
SCF% Playoffs - worst among oilers dmen
I watched broberg play with nurse and get absolutely crushed in every metric except on ice shooting%
The specific games in which they were a disaster are a bit foggy, but Nurse/Broberg were not good in the Final, and were also frankly awful in Game 6 against the Stars.
That pair was really good in Game 4 and 5 against the Stars, but a whole lot of mediocre (at best) after that. They just didn't have the high numbers of goals against and highlight reel f*** ups that Nurse pairs are normally known for. The fact that these didn't really occur is more luck than anything IMO, they play like that over a normal 4 round playoff and they would be wearing horns.
Everyone seems so content to give away Broberg lol. Sorry but who else do we have after him? Wanner had a great rookie year in the AHL but he's not NHL ready. Akey lost close a full year development wise last season. Vinny is gone. I don't see any top 4 Dmen available for trade right now.
Unless fans are content on playing Josh friggin Brown with Nurse until the deadline, I don't see how letting Broberg go is smart.
Unless fans are content on playing Josh friggin Brown with Nurse until the deadline, I don't see how letting Broberg go is smart.
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So who is Broberg's replacement? There are no Dmen available or any D prospects ready to play. Unless you want Josh Brown with Nurse until the deadline, give me a better solution man
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We will cream them this season when we face them. Looking forward to it
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The answer to this question is Cody Ceci. It was always going to be Cody Ceci even if Broberg is in the lineup next season.
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The timing is shit cause they could have grabbed kylington if this happened a week ago.
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That’s a pretty huge kick in the nuts to our future. Broberg and Holloway were supposed to be key fixtures on this team at cheap depth. They won’t be cheap now, even if we can keep them.
Have to make some hard decisions now. Ceci out has to be in play. Maybe Kulak as well. Kane to LTIR would help a lot right now.
This off season just got a lot more challenging for JJ and Bowman. Time for Bowman to show what he’s got and navigate this mess.
Have to make some hard decisions now. Ceci out has to be in play. Maybe Kulak as well. Kane to LTIR would help a lot right now.
This off season just got a lot more challenging for JJ and Bowman. Time for Bowman to show what he’s got and navigate this mess.
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If Cody Ceci is the answer I don't want to know the question.
It's a pickle.
I do have a feeling that both Broberg and Holloway take major leaps forward. Are either of them currently worth the offer sheets thrown at them? Absolutely not. That being said, they're both only 2 yr contracts and Holloway is definitely worth more than a 3rd round pick. Broberg I feel is a victim of better players ahead of him on the Left side. His offer sheet is too steep.
Worst case is match Holloway and take the 2nd for Broberg and walk away from it. With Kane on LTIR it gives this team amble time to be more compliant. Trade Ceci and see what Stetcher can do. Maybe see about signing Barrie to 900k.
I'm not panicking at all.
I do have a feeling that both Broberg and Holloway take major leaps forward. Are either of them currently worth the offer sheets thrown at them? Absolutely not. That being said, they're both only 2 yr contracts and Holloway is definitely worth more than a 3rd round pick. Broberg I feel is a victim of better players ahead of him on the Left side. His offer sheet is too steep.
Worst case is match Holloway and take the 2nd for Broberg and walk away from it. With Kane on LTIR it gives this team amble time to be more compliant. Trade Ceci and see what Stetcher can do. Maybe see about signing Barrie to 900k.
I'm not panicking at all.
You're not letting him go though, he signed a truly ridiculous contract.
I'm a HUGE Broberg fan, I've been high on him for years. And I would never sign him to that contract. Right now they're not relying on Broberg to be a top four defenceman, they have some options (regardless of what you think of Ceci, he's still an option). Sign Broberg to this deal and your whole defence falls apart if he isn't an NHL defenceman, which is a possibility.
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The problem with keeping Broberg is his next contract when he will have arb rights and has to be qualified. McDavid and Bouchard are up that year. Nurse is the problem contract
Me and you both, brother
Man Broberg is about to take a step here. He didn't just get put on the top 4 for fun. We don't have any other Dman who can play up there. Ceci is not top 4. Unless we can use the picks to get Parayko or someone, I don't think losing Broberg is a good idea.
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Best case section, we use the 2nd round pick at the deadline to bring in a defenseman for that 2nd pairing.
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If it isn't working for 2 years then the 3rd years the charm.....
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Broberg was never really top 4, even in the finals
Game 7 6th in ice time.
Game 6 5th
Game 5 5th
Game 4 5th
Game 3 4th
Game 2 4th
Game 1 3rd
The games where he was top 4, they lost every game. Once he and Nursed were relegated to the third pairing is when he looked a lot better. So no, I do not think that small audition means is a top 4 D man yet. It does looking promising, but not yet.
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UFA's that could potentially come in cheaper than Holloway/Broberg.
Forwards: Dube, Silfverberg, Cousins, Labanc, Wheeler, Clutterbuck, Matt Martin (could use some toughness)
Defense: Schultz, Staal, Scandella, Dermott
If we signed Dube for cheap and Schultz for $2-$2.5 million and let both Holloway and Broberg walk, are we a worse team?
Forwards: Dube, Silfverberg, Cousins, Labanc, Wheeler, Clutterbuck, Matt Martin (could use some toughness)
Defense: Schultz, Staal, Scandella, Dermott
If we signed Dube for cheap and Schultz for $2-$2.5 million and let both Holloway and Broberg walk, are we a worse team?
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