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Woof, that defense is bad..especially with Ceci getting worse every year
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You think adding broberg at 4.6 makes that D any better?
CantHaveTkachev
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I’ll take my chances Broberg blossoming into a top 4 before relying on Nurse-Ceci sucking for another year
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Ekholm - Bouchard
Nurse - Ceci
Kulak - Stecher
Brown
Will get us to the deadline no problem and that's not even mentioning that the only player on that list Broberg is definitively better than is the last one.
Nurse - Ceci
Kulak - Stecher
Brown
Will get us to the deadline no problem and that's not even mentioning that the only player on that list Broberg is definitively better than is the last one.
The cost to dump Ceci goes way up once you match both those deals.
At $4.5m? There'd be a good selection of guys in next year's FA that are probably well ahead of where Broberg would be. Him with that cap hit and the immediate expense to the current roster isn't as valuable to the Oilers as you're suggesting he is.
And the fact if the matter is that Broberg isn't established as a top four defenseman either. We've seen him take steps backwards in training camp in consecutive seasons.
That offersheet is a Kotkaniemi-level risk on STL's part. And the only reason it makes sense is because Torey Krug's career is in question. The Oilers have Nurse and Ekholm ahead of him for the foreseeable future. Odds are they weren't earmarking him for RD permanently either.
This is a payroll built with the primary focus being a Championship. Hard to see them changing the focus to give an unestablished player 400% of what the Oilers anticipated they'd be paying him.
SupremeTeam16
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In that sense you are correct but you’re overlooking that Broberg comes with a significant amount of more risk, in terms of his cap hit in the second year and his q/o after that. He plays the tougher position and now that he’s strong armed the team into a ludicrous cap hit given his performance thus far, he’s going to have to back it up right out of the gate. Not going to have the benefit of being sheltered anymore, he wanted to be paid as a second pairing and now he will be expected to perform like one, he’s put a ton of pressure on himself.
What do you think is going to happen if they match him and then he struggles to start the year playing 18-20 minutes a night? What do you think the questions he’s going to have to field from the media are going to be like. What do you think he’s going to hear from fans around town?
I think the risk he could crater under the pressure of living up to that contract is very real.
Paralyzer
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Thanks. Appreciate it.
People saying Kane has an attitude and the players are not happy with him, explain to me why Kane is at Connors wedding? I see others too there. I really think people thinking Kane is an issue are just drumming up drama for no reason.
People seem to think there’s issues because Kane would rather play than sit on LTIR
Tough move I know but what do you think will happen if he doesn't struggle and flourishes? Him playing good and at home right away in the playoffs was no accident.
Yeah but we aren't talking about next year. We need our top 4 set this year. Losing Broberg will just take us back to finding a top 4 Dman again. This offersheet is not as bad as Kotkaniemi. That was over 6 million
KlimasLoveChild
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The saddest thing about Broberg is that we drafted him 5 years ago and still have no idea what we have there.....
It's not awesome by any stretch, but I think Kulak-Barrie could be a sneaky good third pair given their respective puck moving abilities and mobility. We saw what Coffey did for this group, and maybe he can repeat some of that magic with Tyson during a second tour of duty.
What we absolutely need though is a Ceci upgrade, and this season/deadline is the best chance to find that player. Again, cap space is going to be tight for 99% of contenders. With Kane's LTIR + Ceci's money, we have lots of options and could stand to squeeze a club facing cap hurdles of their own.
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KlimasLoveChild
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If it's Chiarelli pulling the strings on this one I feel pretty safe that they don't.
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Did you even read my reply? I'm literally agreeing with you
Honestly we can effectively roll the same D that got us to the final. Use the Broberg pick and 2026 1st + to upgrade Ceci at the deadline
I feel like this is the course of action that makes the most sense. Something will open up that gives them a better shot at winning this year than Broberg at 4.6. And they just got two goals away with Ceci. It's not the time to act desperately, take the assets and make a move down the road.
We're talking about this year. Broberg at $4.5m means you have to remove healthy players off of the current roster. And to what? Give a rookie a contract you never intended on giving him.
You seem stuck on this idea that Broberg was earmarked for top four ice on this current Oilers roster. That was never going to happen. He may have been penciled as Nurse's partner. But at the end of the day he was likely averaging less than 15 minutes of ice a game. Less than Ceci and less than Kulak. He wasn't there yet.
At his cap hit, Broberg would be public enemy #1. There wouldn't be a supportive fanbase. There'd be a toxic, critical pushback to any sign of struggle that Broberg would have.
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The bolded pair being the obvious problem area.
I wonder if in the big picture this would be a positive for Nurse though. "We aren't getting you a safety blanket this year, step up and carry your pair for once."
We saw what he does when he's challenged (Game 4 against the Stars), so it might be time to run him back again, except turning up the heat on him. He needs to be personally challenged to perform it seems.
Stauffer confirms that, in January, Ken Holland was told to sign Broberg and Holloway to contracts very quickly.
Sounds like Holland fell asleep. WOW
Sounds like Holland fell asleep. WOW
Or, more likely, their agents are saying "why would we possibly sign a league min deal now?"
In January, Broberg was just starting to recover his game in the AHL after coming off a difficult start under Woodcroft and demanding a trade. Doubt they could have gotten his name on a contract even if they were motivated to do so.
SupremeTeam16
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Holloway would still be under pressure but much less, and in an easier position. He knows he did the team dirty and he’ll be motivated to live up to that deal. Put him with good players, pump him and dump him in a year or two for more then the 3rd you’d get letting him walk.
This is how I feel as well. Long term Broberg is probably the player you’d rather keep of the two but I think it’s a very real possibility if not a probability that Broberg would wilt under the scrutiny and pressure of living up to a contract he forced on the organization.
Holloway would still be under pressure but much less, and in an easier position. He knows he did the team dirty and he’ll be motivated to live up to that deal. Put him with good players, pump him and dump him in a year or two for more then the 3rd you’d get letting him walk.
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Regarding Holloway, I wonder how Kostin feels about chasing the bag? I mean I guess he needed that extra million to pay for Oilers playoff tickets…
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